Questions & Mysteries Why top tiers can't turn their blades black?

[kurwa]

Of course you dont
here ill help you out

Hey genius is the air bleeding here ?

Yes, Oda's sometimes does that effect when someone starts using CoA. Neither Roger nor WB had that in their clash.

Unless you believe these guys also have same lvl of Haki as Zolo:

Oh and where's the haki "leak" before the attack? Seems strange that we see it after Killer bleeds

 

[HA001]

Yes, Oda's sometimes does that effect when someone starts using CoA. Neither Roger nor WB had that in their clash.

Unless you believe these guys also have same lvl of Haki as Zolo:

Oh and where's the haki "leak" before the attack? Seems strange that we see it after Killer bleeds

Lmfao wheres the blood on his swords after the oni giri on cabaji his swords are front and center and CLEAN.
Is that blood on raisins sword too ?
Lmfao genius over here is bodying himself.

 

[kurwa]

Lmfao wheres the blood on his swords after the oni giri on cabaji his swords are front and center and CLEAN.
Is that blood on raisins sword too ?
Lmfao genius over here is bodying himself.

So Zolo's haki= Raisins haki?

 

[HA001]

So Zolo's haki= Raisins haki?

Whoa why are you talking haki now ?
Its blood isnt it ?
Blood on zoros sword in dressrosa when he cut the air and made it bleed
Blood on zoros swords in wano when enma took his haki
Blood on raisins sword without cutting anything.

But no blood when zoro cuts zoro cuts cabji and hyozou. For some reason his swords are clean ?

 

[kurwa]

Whoa why are you talking haki now ?
Its blood isnt it ?
Blood on zoros sword in dressrosa when he cut the air and made it bleed
Blood on zoros swords in wano when enma took his haki
Blood on raisins sword without cutting anything.

But no blood when zoro cuts zoro cuts cabji and hyozou. For some reason his swords are clean ?

Yes it's blood but if you wanna say it's haki even though the 2 top tiers at their peak (Roger and WB) showed nothing that even resembles that, it's fine

My explanation is that it's an effect Oda sometimes uses for dramatic effect to show that someones uses CoA.

Your basis for Zolo having that haki "leak" is that it looks like fire and you think it's something special and not that Oda just drew blood differently
yet you ignore Wado, which looks like it has blood on it drawn normally after slashing someone.

But if you want to say it's haki, I'm fine with it, then you are saying:
Current Zolo= PreTS Sanji = Raisin in terms of Haki

 

[HA001]

Yes it's blood but if you wanna say it's haki even though the 2 top tiers at their peak (Roger and WB) showed nothing that even resembles that, it's fine

My explanation is that it's an effect Oda sometimes uses for dramatic effect to show that someones uses CoA.

Your basis for Zolo having that haki "leak" is that it looks like fire and you think it's something special and not that Oda just drew blood differently
yet you ignore Wado, which looks like it has blood on it drawn normally after slashing someone.

But if you want to say it's haki, I'm fine with it, then you are saying:
Current Zolo= PreTS Sanji = Raisin in terms of Haki

Is pre skip sanji using haki no.
So its not haki
Is raisin using haki yes
Is the leakage the same amount as zoros no.

Thats like me claiming zoros haki = rogerbeards cause he can make it leak but ignoring their volume of hakj being bigger.
Lol wut. Roger and wb showed exactly that and more.

But stick to your blood waffle.
Explain to me where the blood is on his swords when he uses onigiri on cabaji ? Youve ignored this.
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Lmfao im not ignoring wado thats haki on wado too.

If its blood why are his swords clean after the same move on cabaji and hyouzyou

 

[kurwa]

Is pre skip sanji using haki no.
So its not haki

How can you say no if the effect is exactly the same?
Aren't you the one saying this effect means haki?

+ Sanji is "leaking" more haki
Sanji's haki > Zolo's haki

Is raisin using haki yes
Is the leakage the same amount as zoros no

So is Raisins Haki stronger than Crackers? Katakuris?

Roger and wb showed exactly that and more

Show where Roger and WB showed this.

Explain to me where the blood is on his swords when he uses onigiri on cabaji ? Youve ignored this.

There's nothing to explain. Oda's artwork was absolute shit at the beginning, he had no details.
+ aren't these 2 different onigirs?

What's the difference between "onigiri" and "purgatory onigiri"?

 

[HA001]

How can you say no if the effect is exactly the same?
Aren't you the one saying this effect means haki?

+ Sanji is "leaking" more haki
Sanji's haki > Zolo's haki

So is Raisins Haki stronger than Crackers? Katakuris?


Show where Roger and WB showed this.


There's nothing to explain. Oda's artwork was absolute shit at the beginning, he had no details.
+ aren't these 2 different onigirs?

What's the difference between "onigiri" and "purgatory onigiri"?

Bruh you cant even keep the same energy with your own argument.

My explanation is that it's an effect Oda sometimes uses for dramatic effect to show that someones uses CoA.

Your own words. Was sanji using hardening just on his suit mind not even his body in thriller bark ? No so its not haki.

Its a different application. We never saw katas coat his mogura.
Sometimes someone weaker can have a more advanced haki.
Case in point katas coo > big moms
Or boa sisters using haki luffy has only now learned yet he beat them pre timeskip.

Rogers and wb have haki leaking profusely of their swords. Rogers even starts its leaking part way up like zoros but his volume is far more.

He uses rengoku onigiri against hyozuou too no haki clean swords.

 

[Albino 👑]

If you can blacken 1 blade do yall think you can do the same to any other weapon you want automatically?

 

[kurwa]

Bruh you cant even keep the same energy with your own argument.

lmao why you dodged all those questions?

C'mon, answer them

Your own words. Was sanji using hardening just on his suit mind not even his body in thriller bark ? No so its not haki

You really don't understand that I'm trying to see if you are a hypocrite?
I already told you, that all 3 Sanji Zolo and Raisin didin't use haki and it's just an effect to me.
BUT If YOU wanna say it's haki then all 3 of them are using haki using YOUR logic.

We never saw katas coat his mogura

He coated his fists, there was no effect.

Sometimes someone weaker can have a more advanced haki.
Case in point katas coo > big moms

Sure, but he's weaker in physical strength not in Observation

Or boa sisters using haki luffy has only now learned yet he beat them pre timeskip

okay? and?
They both were weaker than Luffy physically
The green boa sister couldn't physically keep up with Luffy's speed, so her CoO was useless even though she saw his moves
and
The red boa sister didn't have enough strength to hold her ground after Luffy's attack even though she reflected it.

Rogers and wb have haki leaking profusely of their swords. Rogers even starts its leaking part way up like zoros but his volume is far more

So show me...

He uses rengoku onigiri against hyozuou too no haki clean swords.

ok and? His swords were off screen

 

[HA001]

lmao why you dodged all those questions?

C'mon, answer them

You really don't understand that I'm trying to see if you are a hypocrite?
I already told you, that all 3 Sanji Zolo and Raisin didin't use haki and it's just an effect to me.
BUT If YOU wanna say it's haki then all 3 of them are using haki using YOUR logic.



He coated his fists, there was no effect.

Sure, but he's weaker in physical strength not in Observation


okay? and?
They both were weaker than Luffy physically
The green boa sister couldn't physically keep up with Luffy's speed, so her CoO was useless even though she saw his moves
and
The red boa sister didn't have enough strength to hold her ground after Luffy's attack even though she reflected it.


So show me...



ok and? His swords were off screen

You just love being bodied. The only one avoiding and contradicting is you.

You.
My explanation is that it's an effect Oda sometimes uses for dramatic effect to show that someones uses CoA.

also you


I already told you, that all 3 Sanji Zolo and Raisin didin't use haki and it's just an effect to me.


oh dear look whose talking out of his arse

the leakage is only on weaons so far.


Why are bringing up the difference between meme and the boa sisters physicals like ive said otherwise.
Your point was to bring up cracker and mine was sometimes someone weaker can be better at haki

oh look

Is this blood too ? considering youre back on the its not haki train ???


We see zoros swords enough especially the one in his mouth and they are clean.
B O D I E D

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Because they're not as strong as Mihawk and Ryuma that's it

 

[Finalbeta]

Because they're not as strong as Mihawk and Ryuma that's it

Basically

Their level of CoA isn't comparable that's the issue I bet :)

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Basically

Their level of CoA isn't comparable that's the issue I bet :)

This :cheers:

 

[Kucing Pencuri]

They just dont care with that stuff, they already very strong

 

[HA001]

They just dont care with that stuff, they already very strong

Explain how ryuma cared to make one when it had never been done before ?

 

[Kucing Pencuri]

Explain how ryuma cared to make one when it had never been done before ?

We dont even know what condition to make sword permanently black, do they just have to coating their sword all the time or they also have to taking their sword as part of their soul and follow way of the sword thing

 

[HA001]

We dont even know what condition to make sword permanently black, do they just have to coating their sword all the time or they also have to taking their sword as part of their soul and follow way of the sword thing

why are you saying that now ? you just said they didnt care implying they have to care about it to do it ? but now we dont know

 

[Finalbeta]

This :cheers:

It explains why Mihawk was a CoA specialist too and Roger wasn't:P

 

[Kucing Pencuri]

why are you saying that now ? you just said they didnt care implying they have to care about it to do it ? but now we dont know

"They just dont care with that stuff", they didn't care with way of swordman, they dont care with pride of swordman, they dont care to deeply connected with their sword. Zoro's statement about Sandai and existence of Enma is proof that sword have their own will. What if to make black blade you not only need high coa level like Roger show, but also need to deeply connected to your sword. Thats why i said they dont care with that kind of stuff