Because you can't become a Yonko just for being above Katakuri.
The allies and territories belonged to WB and not Marco. Rayleigh was the official vice-captain of the Roger pirates but they disbanded when Roger left the crew; why because he was the force that was holding them all together and they'd all go their separate ways if it weren't him. WB pirates and allies are the same.
Did you even read the bolded parts before typing "we write our own manga?"
Mogura attacks are too slow to hit base Luffy even after stabbing him unfairly thanks to Flampe. It wouldn't be of much use anyway.
About awakening, Katakuri using awakening at 11:36 PM i.e., around 30 mins before Luffy entered Snakeman.
The next panel we see them in is at 12:05 AM which is when they agree to end the fight. There is 0 reason to assume Kuri dropped awakening during the off-paneled battle.
I honestly have no idea what you're even trying to say here.
Let's not pretend like you didn't make this thread to prove Katakuri's superiority to Marco.
Boldest part is massive bad argument if so then Teach shouldn't be Yonoo coz he took WB's territories
Linlin shouldn't take Fishman island etc...coz it belonged to WB, nobody should recognise Linlin as the ruler of it then.
WB was dead. MARCO was the leader of WBP so the territories and allies still belonged to WBP
Roger himself disbanded the crew
Don't compare it with WBP where WB never disbanded his crew or told them to stop piracy.
They quit piracy and went to hiding after losing!
Stop mentioning snakeman vs kata here.
The thread is about why Marco wasn't candidate or Yonko for a year even tho he had everything under him
And he is apparently Top tier per your headcanons
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Ndule: Makes thread to shit talk Marco and enforce a criteria ONLY he knows or understands
@Zenos7 : Posts literally tha canon manga panel completely disproving Ndule
@Jo_Ndule : Conspicuously doesn’t read said response.....
What panel did Zenos post disprove mine?
Among the candidates : Teach was ahead
Tesch who didn't have territories or allies...ahead
so you are saying Marco was called candidate yet below Teach ?
you are saying Marco was Yonko yet OP world didn't even crown him so?
Nobody said Marco was candidate or yonko. He had a year yet nobody ever stated Marco was Yonko/candidate.
They still counted the spot empty...that's how weak Marco is, Teach with his weak crew took the glory as top 1 candidate then when he trashed Marco and took lands ...automatically he was Yonko
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These guys wanna say a person "top tier or not" who has Yonko fleets , influence and territories
Was counted as candidate but not ahead of Teach
Couldn't be Yonko that year he did as Leader of WBP
Nobody in the OP world hypes him as candidate
But but
"Gorosei said <perhaps Marco and Co..> and also said <among CANDIDATES...> so Marco was candidate to stop Teach which means he is candidate to be Yonko "
Luffy and Teach are top 1 candidates without allies and territories
But Marco with those things... isn't top 1? Isnt candidate? Isnt yonko ?
Yup Logic of Top tier Marco
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The way I look at it, is the Whitebeard Pirates weren't really a "Pirate Crew" anymore after Whitebeard's death. Yeah, Marco assumed a temporary leadership, but I am willing to bet it was solely to get revenge on the Blackbeard Pirates.
You also have to realize that a lot of Whitebeards allies were hunted down and killed by Weevil in that timeframe, on top of the countless losses they suffered at Marineford. Between Marineford and Weevil, they lost a ton of power. Despite all of that, they were still considered enough of a threat in the World to be one of the only crews capable of stopping Blackbeard, and also upon their defeat at the hands of the Blackbeard Pirates, that when the World started ranking Blackbeard among the Yonko's.
One thing I am damn near certain of, is Big Mom is not simply walking away from any normal High Tier, just because she doesn't have enough souls to use against them. She had Queen shitting his pants from a simple stare, after beating his ass as O-Lin, and using no abilities whatsoever.
They were considered that before even timeskip started not after
Weevil only took out 16 allies after payback war.
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He did not use awakening ? Of course he used it,his strongest technique,Zan giri mochi is awakening based.
He wouldn't gain that momentum when he becomes Donut if he wasn't using it.
2x in 35 min vs Snakeman?
And he didn't even use it as a long range attack to but only on the ground to prompel him faster
Basically no awakening used on Luffy
No mogura
Just base moves... even Zangiri is a base move
