Questions & Mysteries Why was Roger not WSS?
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If Roger's kick was similar to Zoro's, now Oden would have been cut in half...I think it's a little clear that these two shots are different
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If Roger's kick was similar to Zoro's, now Oden would have been cut in half...I think it's a little clear that these two shots are different
What's Roger's holding here, your non existent dick?
I can give thousands of examples of characters using swords to make elemental attacks, which are a far cry from a slashing technique:
> Big Mom's Misery: Technique she uses napoleon, but uses to manifest and channel her other elements.
> King's Omori Karyudon: Fire Dragon Technique, is also an elemental technique, not a slashing technique.
> WB meteors: WhiteBeard used his long-handled sword and coated it with meteor, not a slashing technique either.
I'm sure if I dig around, I can find other examples, but the point is: characters who use swords don't necessarily use swordmanship techniques.
First it was "They different 'cause they have CoC!" cope until Zoro got it, now it's "They different because when they use CoC with their sword swing, instead of creating a slash, it creates a BLAST!"
Jesus Christ, there's no fucking end, is it? You even randomly brought up Shanks who hasn't even done anything remotely similar.
Not that it's true for Roger to begin with. It was literally a sword attack, hell, when Vivre Card used the same panel to introduce Ace as one of the 12 top graded blades. Something super swordsmanship related.
But, of course, because Oda didn't draw Oden with a gash across his stomach, it's automatically disqualified from being a swordsman, even though it is literally out of him swinging with his sword.
Meanwhile likes of Kinemon generating fire is swordsmanship. Brook generating ice and freezing his opponents is swordsmanship.
HELL, Ikoku, something that literally does what Kamusari did to Oden is canonically stated to be swordsmanship.
But sure, it's only exception now.
Jesus Christ. At this point there will come a time where you people will start screaming "SHANKS DODGED! He dodged without using his sword! That's why he's not puRe swordsman"
Jesus Christ, there's no fucking end, is it? You even randomly brought up Shanks who hasn't even done anything remotely similar.
Not that it's true for Roger to begin with. It was literally a sword attack, hell, when Vivre Card used the same panel to introduce Ace as one of the 12 top graded blades. Something super swordsmanship related.
But, of course, because Oda didn't draw Oden with a gash across his stomach, it's automatically disqualified from being a swordsman, even though it is literally out of him swinging with his sword.
Meanwhile likes of Kinemon generating fire is swordsmanship. Brook generating ice and freezing his opponents is swordsmanship.
HELL, Ikoku, something that literally does what Kamusari did to Oden is canonically stated to be swordsmanship.
But sure, it's only exception now.
Jesus Christ. At this point there will come a time where you people will start screaming "SHANKS DODGED! He dodged without using his sword! That's why he's not puRe swordsman"
First it was "They different 'cause they have CoC!" cope until Zoro got it, now it's "They different because when they use CoC with their sword swing, instead of creating a slash, it creates a BLAST!"
Jesus Christ, there's no fucking end, is it? You even randomly brought up Shanks who hasn't even done anything remotely similar.
Not that it's true for Roger to begin with. It was literally a sword attack, hell, when Vivre Card used the same panel to introduce Ace as one of the 12 top graded blades. Something super swordsmanship related.
But, of course, because Oda didn't draw Oden with a gash across his stomach, it's automatically disqualified from being a swordsman, even though it is literally out of him swinging with his sword.
Meanwhile likes of Kinemon generating fire is swordsmanship. Brook generating ice and freezing his opponents is swordsmanship.
HELL, Ikoku, something that literally did to Kidd what Kamusari did to Oden is canonically stated to be swordsmanship.
But sure, it's only exception now.
Jesus Christ. At this point there will come a time where you people will start screaming "SHANKS DODGED! He dodged without using his sword! That's why he's not puRe swordsman"
Jesus Christ, there's no fucking end, is it? You even randomly brought up Shanks who hasn't even done anything remotely similar.
Not that it's true for Roger to begin with. It was literally a sword attack, hell, when Vivre Card used the same panel to introduce Ace as one of the 12 top graded blades. Something super swordsmanship related.
But, of course, because Oda didn't draw Oden with a gash across his stomach, it's automatically disqualified from being a swordsman, even though it is literally out of him swinging with his sword.
Meanwhile likes of Kinemon generating fire is swordsmanship. Brook generating ice and freezing his opponents is swordsmanship.
HELL, Ikoku, something that literally did to Kidd what Kamusari did to Oden is canonically stated to be swordsmanship.
But sure, it's only exception now.
Jesus Christ. At this point there will come a time where you people will start screaming "SHANKS DODGED! He dodged without using his sword! That's why he's not puRe swordsman"
First it was "They different 'cause they have CoC!" cope until Zoro got it, now it's "They different because when they use CoC with their sword swing, instead of creating a slash, it creates a BLAST!"
Jesus Christ, there's no fucking end, is it? You even randomly brought up Shanks who hasn't even done anything remotely similar.
Not that it's true for Roger to begin with. It was literally a sword attack, hell, when Vivre Card used the same panel to introduce Ace as one of the 12 top graded blades. Something super swordsmanship related.
But, of course, because Oda didn't draw Oden with a gash across his stomach, it's automatically disqualified from being a swordsman, even though it is literally out of him swinging with his sword.
Meanwhile likes of Kinemon generating fire is swordsmanship. Brook generating ice and freezing his opponents is swordsmanship.
HELL, Ikoku, something that literally did to Kidd what Kamusari did to Oden is canonically stated to be swordsmanship.
But sure, it's only exception now.
Jesus Christ. At this point there will come a time where you people will start screaming "SHANKS DODGED! He dodged without using his sword! That's why he's not puRe swordsman"
Jesus Christ, there's no fucking end, is it? You even randomly brought up Shanks who hasn't even done anything remotely similar.
Not that it's true for Roger to begin with. It was literally a sword attack, hell, when Vivre Card used the same panel to introduce Ace as one of the 12 top graded blades. Something super swordsmanship related.
But, of course, because Oda didn't draw Oden with a gash across his stomach, it's automatically disqualified from being a swordsman, even though it is literally out of him swinging with his sword.
Meanwhile likes of Kinemon generating fire is swordsmanship. Brook generating ice and freezing his opponents is swordsmanship.
HELL, Ikoku, something that literally did to Kidd what Kamusari did to Oden is canonically stated to be swordsmanship.
But sure, it's only exception now.
Jesus Christ. At this point there will come a time where you people will start screaming "SHANKS DODGED! He dodged without using his sword! That's why he's not puRe swordsman"
That response has nothing to do with my reply. At least read. I never said anything that comes from sword is swordsmanship. Just that there's fuck all about Roger's slash which implies non-swordsmanship and everything that implies otherwise.
The fact you're comparing it to shitting out a gigantic flame dragon or creating DF quakes alone shows how fucked up your argument is lol
The fact you're comparing it to shitting out a gigantic flame dragon or creating DF quakes alone shows how fucked up your argument is lol
''even though it is literally out of him swinging with his sword.''
The fact that Roger is using a sword means nothing if he doesn't use cutting techniques.
If he doesn't use cutting techniques, then he doesn't fit the criteria for vying for the title of strongest swordsman.
Shanks in the movie RED, Roger vs Oden... It's very clear even from the sword profile and even aesthetic that Shanks and Roger have the same fighting style, they use CoC blasts, which is a haki technique, not a cutting technique.
The sooner you accept this, the less your frustration will be
The fact that Roger is using a sword means nothing if he doesn't use cutting techniques.
If he doesn't use cutting techniques, then he doesn't fit the criteria for vying for the title of strongest swordsman.
Shanks in the movie RED, Roger vs Oden... It's very clear even from the sword profile and even aesthetic that Shanks and Roger have the same fighting style, they use CoC blasts, which is a haki technique, not a cutting technique.
The sooner you accept this, the less your frustration will be
- Ignore the fact that it is literally him swinging a sword to generate an air attack that aesthetically looks no different from any other sword attack.
- Ignore the fact that it literally does what Ikoku Sovereignty does, which is confirmed to be swordsmanship.
- Ignore the fact that Kamusari was the panel which was used to introduce Ace as one of the 12 graded swords, something very much swordsmanship related. They could've picked any other, but according to you, they had to pick the attack irrelevant to swordsmanship.
- Ignore the fact that Kinemon generating fire and Brook freezing people is swordsmanship, but somehow Roger is disqualified for using something that looks literally like any other swordsmanship and works literally like another swordsmanship attack.
You're comparing it to fucking generating a gigantic magma-like dragon courtesy of your race out of your sword or creating a DF earthquake. Give it a rest lol
@Chaves
Here, have another. Oden using a named attack with his blade yet no one is seen getting cut and reactions are same as Kamusari (blood from mouth and pushed away).
Is Oden disqualified from being a PuRE swordsman, too?
Like, you're literally agenda driving most obvious swordsmanship attacks just because King created a race-related fire dragon from his sword and WB specifically shows huge bubbles of DF around his own.
It's not even remotely, anywhere near similar. Yet Roger's attack looks and acts literally same as things that are proven swordsmanship.
But nope, doesn't fit the narrative some of you want, so gotta find some excuse.
At this point, just go and start wanking Admirals and Sanji EoS to Yonko or Yonko+ level instead, because pretending Mihawk isn't will only fuck you up in long-run.
Here, have another. Oden using a named attack with his blade yet no one is seen getting cut and reactions are same as Kamusari (blood from mouth and pushed away).
Is Oden disqualified from being a PuRE swordsman, too?
Like, you're literally agenda driving most obvious swordsmanship attacks just because King created a race-related fire dragon from his sword and WB specifically shows huge bubbles of DF around his own.
It's not even remotely, anywhere near similar. Yet Roger's attack looks and acts literally same as things that are proven swordsmanship.
But nope, doesn't fit the narrative some of you want, so gotta find some excuse.
At this point, just go and start wanking Admirals and Sanji EoS to Yonko or Yonko+ level instead, because pretending Mihawk isn't will only fuck you up in long-run.
Why Roger wasn't hailed as World's Worst Criminal like Dragon?
So basically CoC used with sword skills is more lethal and potent than raw CoC blast.
After all Mihawk said it in his introduction that a sword with no grace is a weak sword
I didn't want to discuss because I retired myself
But I want to answer this message
If Roger's kick was similar to Zoro's, now Oden would have been cut in half...I think it's a little clear that these two shots are different
But I want to answer this message
If Roger's kick was similar to Zoro's, now Oden would have been cut in half...I think it's a little clear that these two shots are different
After all Mihawk said it in his introduction that a sword with no grace is a weak sword
I didn't want to discuss because I retired myself
But I want to answer this message
If Roger's kick was similar to Zoro's, now Oden would have been cut in half...I think it's a little clear that these two shots are different
But I want to answer this message
If Roger's kick was similar to Zoro's, now Oden would have been cut in half...I think it's a little clear that these two shots are different
