Questions & Mysteries Why was Roger not WSS?

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Don’t get too excited haha
Remember that the strongest swordsman in history doesn’t have a black blade or any fame with his sword or any link with Zoro :usoprice::usoprice:
Yeah yeah so they all do the same thing essentially which is coating their swords with haki but they arent part of Zoros dream because we cannot entertain that thought. We get it.
 
  • Ignore the fact that it is literally him swinging a sword to generate an air attack that aesthetically looks no different from any other sword attack.
  • Ignore the fact that it literally does what Ikoku Sovereignty does, which is confirmed to be swordsmanship.
  • Ignore the fact that Kamusari was the panel which was used to introduce Ace as one of the 12 graded swords, something very much swordsmanship related. They could've picked any other, but according to you, they had to pick the attack irrelevant to swordsmanship.
  • Ignore the fact that Kinemon generating fire and Brook freezing people is swordsmanship, but somehow Roger is disqualified for using something that looks literally like any other swordsmanship and works literally like another swordsmanship attack.
Who told you swordsmanship is limited to cutting attacks? Because Oda sure as hell shows otherwise.

You're comparing it to fucking generating a gigantic magma-like dragon courtesy of your race out of your sword or creating a DF earthquake. Give it a rest lol
Now find me the fucking gash on Oden's belly, you can't find it, because clearly it was a CoC explosion, haki technique.

WB also used a holy 12 rank sword, and he was not a swordsman, so this argument is rubbish.

What the fuck are you talking you idiot, Kinemon and Brook legitimately use cutting techniques. Roger and Shanks didn't use a single slash cutting technique throughout the entire manga or movie or any random shit, they always used CoC blasts, which is a haki technique.

From the moment Brook uses his technique to freeze his opponents instead of slashing them, then it's not a swordsmanship technique but an elemental technique, from the moment he does a freezing slash technique or Kinemon uses a Burning cutting technique is then a fencing technique. That's 2+2, only extremely stupid people are not able to reason out of it.

It's the same bullshit, only difference is "Air Bar" got changed to "CoC blasts".

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Another post that shows that you are extremely coward and bad character of things I never said. Nothing relevant ever comes out of some bullshit argument you make up, clearly you don't have any repertoire to argue with me. So hide and shit in all the discussion shit instead of arguing like an adult
I legitimately pity you
 
Conceited comments and condescending insults from the same people who called us morons for not believing in ZKK.

Keep up the energy, ramp up the insults, increase the trolling, but at the end oda will not give a single shit when he takes a dump on the sword fans for the sake of Goofy and his mentor.
 
Irrelevant oden was bleeding also as he was flying through the air
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I never said that Roger does not have cutting skills, but I said that his ability is debatable..Or I never said that Roger is definitely not a swordsman, but I said that he is only one person that may be an exception
The scars on Wb's body show to some extent that he is a more capable swordsman than anyone else...And now anything can happen about Roger's fighting style
 
Now find me the fucking gash on Oden's belly, you can't find it, because clearly it was a CoC explosion, haki technique.

WB also used a holy 12 rank sword, and he was not a swordsman, so this argument is rubbish.

What the fuck are you talking you idiot, Kinemon and Brook legitimately use cutting techniques. Roger and Shanks didn't use a single slash cutting technique throughout the entire manga or movie or any random shit, they always used CoC blasts, which is a haki technique.

From the moment Brook uses his technique to freeze his opponents instead of slashing them, then it's not a swordsmanship technique but an elemental technique, from the moment he does a freezing slash technique or Kinemon uses a Burning cutting technique is then a fencing technique. That's 2+2, only extremely stupid people are not able to reason out of it.
I literally gave you two examples of canonically confirmed swordsmanship attacks that result in exactly the same way as Kamusari and you're asking me to give you a gash lol.

If it aethetically 100% looks like a swordsmanship attack, has a result like canonically proven swordsmanship attacks, is used with a sword with nothing that visually stands out, and is the picture Vivre Card entry uses when talking about Top 12 Graded Blades, then it is literally a swordsmanship attack.

"CoC explosion! Never mind the fact that it looks same as every single air slash we've seen and behaves like certain attacks that are canonically proven to be swordsmanship!"

Another post that shows that you are extremely coward and bad character of things I never said. Nothing relevant ever comes out of some bullshit argument you make up, clearly you don't have any repertoire to argue with me. So hide and shit in all the discussion shit instead of arguing like an adult
I legitimately pity you
It's bit ironic you're saying this to someone else while your entire response to me ignores the biggest arguments I have lol
 
Conceited comments and condescending insults from the same people who called us morons for not believing in ZKK.

Keep up the energy, ramp up the insults, increase the trolling, but at the end oda will not give a single shit when he takes a dump on the sword fans for the sake of Goofy and his mentor.
Yeah, it's the exact same shit.

If you argued against ZKK, then it was a bunch of ''arguments'' like ''uuh he copium'' or whatever, for at the end of the day, the same idiots are shown wrong.

Once the manga develops Roger and Shanks' fighting style as haki blasts instead of sword cutting slashes, then those same idiots will cry about how trash the manga is or hide from the responsibility of saying shit like @HA001 and @Fenaker did
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Yeah, it's the exact same shit.

If you argued against ZKK, then it was a bunch of ''arguments'' like ''uuh he copium'' or whatever, for at the end of the day, the same idiots are shown wrong.

Once the manga develops Roger and Shanks' fighting style as haki blasts instead of sword cutting slashes, then those same idiots will cry about how trash the manga is or hide from the responsibility of saying shit like @HA001 and @Fenaker did
Shanks has just been revealed to have a BURNING SWORD STYLE
Now what

What happened to zoro smacking his swords kaido lmfaooooo
 
I literally gave you two examples of canonically confirmed swordsmanship attacks that result in exactly the same way as Kamusari and you're asking me to give you a gash lol.
What example did you give and how do the attacks correlate?
MISERY is a cutting technique too? lmao

If it aethetically 100% looks like a swordsmanship attack, has a result like canonically proven swordsmanship attacks, is used with a sword with nothing that visually stands out, and is the picture Vivre Card entry uses when talking about Top 12 Graded Blades, then it is literally a swordsmanship attack.


WB also uses a graded 12 sword, he also does sword moves, and guess what? It is not a cutting technique.


"CoC explosion! Never mind the fact that it looks same as every single air slash we've seen and behaves like certain attacks that are canonically proven to be swordsmanship!"
There's no shit like that, Roger's attack was a golden blast that crossed through Oden's abdomen and didn't cut him.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
What example did you give and how do the attacks correlate?
MISERY is a cutting technique too? lmao



WB also uses a graded 12 sword, he also does sword moves, and guess what? It is not a cutting technique.




There's no shit like that, Roger's attack was a golden blast that crossed through Oden's abdomen and didn't cut him.
SHANKS HAS A BURNING SWORD STYLE


NOW WHAT ???
 
Yeah, it's the exact same shit.

If you argued against ZKK, then it was a bunch of ''arguments'' like ''uuh he copium'' or whatever, for at the end of the day, the same idiots are shown wrong.

Once the manga develops Roger and Shanks' fighting style as haki blasts instead of sword cutting slashes, then those same idiots will cry about how trash the manga is or hide from the responsibility of saying shit like @HA001 and @Fenaker did
Oda already called them swordsman/swordsmaster.


Strong swordsman cuts only what they wishes to cut.
 
Oda already called them swordsman/swordsmaster.


Strong swordsman cuts only what they wishes to cut.
fan art what else can oda say + the background literally says swordsman so he will say there all swordsman
also kaku i wouldnt consider a swordsman, he uses rokushiki and his df way too much
 
What example did you give and how do the attacks correlate?
MISERY is a cutting technique too? lmao
You didn't even read anything I said :kaidowhat:

Ikoku Sovereignty. Canonically proven a swordsmanship attack yet does exact same shit as Roger's.

Gan Modoki. Literally showed you a panel of Oden using it and the people he uses it on are pushed away while they cough blood from mouth. No cuts on body.

Roger's attack literally looks like any other sword air attack, and behaves exactly the same way as two swordsmanship attacks. Thus, it is a fucking swordsmanship attack.
WB also uses a graded 12 sword, he also does sword moves, and guess what? It is not a cutting technique.
Again, you didn't even read shit. Chill the fuck out and please read what other people say before responding.

I was referring to explicit choice of showing Kamusari panel as reference while talking about how Roger's blade is one of top 12 graded swords in Vivre Card. Why show a panel for reference where the sword is barely visible and the attack has nothing to do with swordsmanship, according to you?
 
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SHANKS HAS A BURNING SWORD STYLE


NOW WHAT ???
You missed the whole argument, Mr. ZKK

King uses his sword to make fire dragons, it's not a CUTTING TECHNIQUE
Fujitora uses his sword to send meteors and gravity pressure, it's not a CUTTING TECHNIQUE
WB uses his sword to send meteors, it's not a CUTTING TECHNIQUE
Big Mom uses her sword to cast Misery, it's not a CUTTING TECHNIQUE

Whether or not Shanks uses his fiery sword is a bullshit argument because his main attacks come from his CoC, and he uses his sword to send blasts of CoC, which doesn't fit the criteria for swordsmanship skills, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONE CUTTING TECHNIQUE

I know your brain is limited to the point of believing the ZKK bullshit theory, but this is going overboard, I'm practically typing 2+2=4, even primate brains like you can reason this out.
 
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