Speculations Why "Wings" does not mean Zoro = Sanji in strength

[BattalGazi]

Sanji without using his arms = Zoro with 3 special graded swords. Sanji truly is built different

Zoro was always a magical sword user, Wado is the same grade as Enma and same craftsman so no one can persuade me that it has no ability. Cursed swords also works like DF powers so Kitetsu is not off the hook either. I will not eeven mention Enma which was filled with Oden haki to the brim.

Sanjis father worked his ass off so his children can be stronger while Zoros father sat on his ass, no one can convince me exoskeleton is undeserved.

 

[Rumble]

Trouble keeping up with an empty ass post.

The post you hurt yourself in confusion over wasn't even addressing you.

As in quoting yourself and trying to use the irreverence of my dismissal against me.

You can hardly blame me for repeating my rebuttal if you ignore it.

I can imagine you were defensive and then upset by my use of profanity, and so at this point you have completely given up trying to elaborate and instead run ad hominem diversions.

Shooting in the dark at a stranger instead of like... explaining why you think the differences are smaller than the similarities. Gaban is hardly fleshed out but what little we have contradicts Sanji in all but one throwaway line from Luffy

Lmk when you're trying to discuss manga and not share your butthurt over being called out

You're projecting hard, bruva.

The fundamental issue is that you are having a different argument than the rest.

No one has asserted sameness, only similarity.

It doesn't matter Gaban doesn't have Sanji's rules about women. They don't have to be the same to be similar, and as I've put to you from the beginning, the manga wasted no time in establishing the parallel as both clear and intended.

You want to argue it's not enough, go for it, but to deny and downplay the significance of the similarities that are already there doesn't indicate a lot of confidence backing your view.

Just hurt feelings.

 

[Fn Lucci]

The post you hurt yourself in confusion over wasn't even addressing you.



You can hardly blame me for repeating my rebuttal if you ignore it.







You're projecting hard, bruva.

The fundamental issue is that you are having a different argument than the rest.

No one has asserted sameness, only similarity.

It doesn't matter Gaban doesn't have Sanji's rules about women. They don't have to be the same to be similar, and as I've put to you from the beginning, the manga wasted no time in establishing the parallel as both clear and intended.

You want to argue it's not enough, go for it, but to deny and downplay the significance of the similarities that are already there doesn't indicate a lot of confidence backing your view.

Just hurt feelings.

The premise of the thread is that Sanji and Zoro are equals in strength and the support from the narrative consists of the parallel between Ray and Gaban. But Sanji has never been arguably as strong as Zoro in a fight and using Gaban doesn't work because the only similarity between them doesn't consist of a strength argument. You cannot extrapolate any sort of EoS stature for Sanji based on the fact that Gaban shares his trait of functional heterosexuality. Ray is actually more similar there because he is a ladies' man who has not demonstrated any interest or effort to reproduce.

You seem to think that conceding the simple fact that "similar isn't identical" bails you out of finding any deeper connection. It doesn't , and on top of that you also go back and call the existing connections shallow without expanding on what you hold up between them.

You need to address the premise of strength if you want to argue any relevant connection to the rest of the thread

 

[Rumble]

Sanji has never been arguably as strong as Zoro

So you say.

Those of us with functioning brains tend to believe the two have always been equals.

You cannot extrapolate any sort of EoS stature for Sanji based on the fact that Gaban shares his trait of functional heterosexuality.

Why does this matter?

Gaban is Sanji's floor, not his ceiling.

You seem to think that conceding the simple fact that "similar isn't identical" bails you out of finding any deeper connection.

Why would I need to bail from an argument I'm not in?

Again, you're the only one arguing against straw men about sameness.

Nobody said the same. They said similar. You're twisting it all on your own.

You need to address the premise of strength if you want to argue any relevant connection to the rest of the thread

What?

 

[Ven437]

EOS Sanji will be close to EOS Zoro in strength, not necessarily above but not a tier or two below him. That is what it means by both being wings of the PK it not that complex