Why Zoro haters downplay characters merely because they associate with Zoro?
- Thread starter Dickie D. Dick
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It's all agenda, but it's a normal mechanism from my point of view
Just look at how Yankers've been defending Big Meme until the very last even if she was the biggest disgrace ever to Yonko's hype.
They had to defend her, even if it was unwillingly
In the same way an Akainu fan would also defend the other admirals, even though maybe he doesn't really specifically care about them.
For the same agenda based mechanism all the Zoro haters will try to shit on the other swordsmen too, Mihawk and Ryuma especially.
It was a big surprise to me that anti Zoro pirates didn't downplay Oden, but I guess it's because they think that he's not tightly related to Zoro which at the end will backfire at them because the whole Enma blackening plot serves as a direct comparison between Zoro and Oden. It's only that they don't have realized it yet.
You can also see Sanji stans desperately trying to push the near equality between the number 2 and 3 of every organization.
Everything is agenda:
-A fan of a certain Yonko will defend other yonkos too, and shit on swordsmen because Mihawk is a legit threat
-Luffy fans: often allied with Yonko fandom because the Emperors are Luffy's direct enemies
-Zoro fans will defend all swordsmen and the vice captains
-Sanji fans will defend all the number 3s and shit on Mihawk because if Hawkeye is really Yonko level they can't dream anymore about Zoro >= Sanji since that even the most extremist of Sanji fans wouldn't argue about Sanji being Yonko level by EOS
Just look at how Yankers've been defending Big Meme until the very last even if she was the biggest disgrace ever to Yonko's hype.
They had to defend her, even if it was unwillingly
In the same way an Akainu fan would also defend the other admirals, even though maybe he doesn't really specifically care about them.
For the same agenda based mechanism all the Zoro haters will try to shit on the other swordsmen too, Mihawk and Ryuma especially.
It was a big surprise to me that anti Zoro pirates didn't downplay Oden, but I guess it's because they think that he's not tightly related to Zoro which at the end will backfire at them because the whole Enma blackening plot serves as a direct comparison between Zoro and Oden. It's only that they don't have realized it yet.
You can also see Sanji stans desperately trying to push the near equality between the number 2 and 3 of every organization.
Everything is agenda:
-A fan of a certain Yonko will defend other yonkos too, and shit on swordsmen because Mihawk is a legit threat
-Luffy fans: often allied with Yonko fandom because the Emperors are Luffy's direct enemies
-Zoro fans will defend all swordsmen and the vice captains
-Sanji fans will defend all the number 3s and shit on Mihawk because if Hawkeye is really Yonko level they can't dream anymore about Zoro >= Sanji since that even the most extremist of Sanji fans wouldn't argue about Sanji being Yonko level by EOS
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zorotards claiming King is closer or on par with Kaido is far more preposterous than assuming characters with bounties 5% apart on the same crew are close.
zorotards claiming "muh swords mean that ACKSHUALLY Kaku is 2x as stong as his doriki would indicate" are ridiculous too.
Kaku is a sliver above Jyabura but half of Lucci.
King is a slightly bigger sliver above Queen but a third of Kaido.
zorotards claiming "muh swords mean that ACKSHUALLY Kaku is 2x as stong as his doriki would indicate" are ridiculous too.
Kaku is a sliver above Jyabura but half of Lucci.
King is a slightly bigger sliver above Queen but a third of Kaido.
Marco is the sole guy from his crew, and he fought King and Queen 2vs1 while putting both of them as 1 bil men with no difference in difficulty stated.
Zoro the YC1 of the strawhats said both King and Queen would be difficult to get past, with no difference strated.
Understand the concept of >=
If Kaku and Jabura are not ">=" then no two characters in any fictional series can possibly ever possibly be ">="
Zoro the YC1 of the strawhats said both King and Queen would be difficult to get past, with no difference strated.
Understand the concept of >=
If Kaku and Jabura are not ">=" then no two characters in any fictional series can possibly ever possibly be ">="
Yes because that's how they worth he is not putting them at the same tier marco did more damage to Queen than king later Queen split up to fight against chopper AGAINST CHOPPER the same marco couldn't defeat king because his stamina went out
So is
King=Marco
King > Queen
Marco > Queen
YC1 > YC2
Not this >= bs you people came up with to smooth things because you can't support manga facts
And with the second question you had hawkins calling luffy and zoro my fellow mates of the wg but without difference between both after wci they put luffy's New bounty for defeating two sweet commanders without stablishing who was stronger
So is
King=Marco
King > Queen
Marco > Queen
YC1 > YC2
Not this >= bs you people came up with to smooth things because you can't support manga facts
And with the second question you had hawkins calling luffy and zoro my fellow mates of the wg but without difference between both after wci they put luffy's New bounty for defeating two sweet commanders without stablishing who was stronger
i'm guessing that this is a response to me saying Katakuri is > King. which is common sense. Kings best feats are kicking a ship and ragdolling Zoro which arent that impressive in my book. Zoro beat King and the powerup he used was obtaining COC lightning which Luffy has been using since his fight with Don chin. Luffy had the same power and more and was getting absolutely destroyed by Katakuri.
He had fo develop FS just to stay alive and Katskuri had to give himself a fatal wound just to even thing out.
He had fo develop FS just to stay alive and Katskuri had to give himself a fatal wound just to even thing out.
No King is not = Marco, he is below him.
Marco was portrayed as above them both, and lumped them together, you are engaging in cap and headcanon.
Not all yonko crews are equal and not all consitutents are equal, King is the weakest and Kaido is the strongest.
If you don't understand the concept of >= then you shouldn't be ranking characters.
Marco was portrayed as above them both, and lumped them together, you are engaging in cap and headcanon.
Not all yonko crews are equal and not all consitutents are equal, King is the weakest and Kaido is the strongest.
If you don't understand the concept of >= then you shouldn't be ranking characters.
Marco/Jozu were portrayed on par both fighting with admirals, Ace took up a spot as a rookie who didn't know haki properly.Ace died and Yamato grew for 2 years.
Yamato is stronger than King and 2 years weaker Ace is weaker than Jozu. Slotting her in to create an artificial gap between King and Queen, when Yamato isn't even a fucking commander on Kaido's crew reeks of bullshit.
Yamato is stronger than King and 2 years weaker Ace is weaker than Jozu. Slotting her in to create an artificial gap between King and Queen, when Yamato isn't even a fucking commander on Kaido's crew reeks of bullshit.
So now your saying marco=jozu ffs Ace is YC2 at same tier with jozu and the yamato thing is because she had an story with the MC but your right we shouldn't put Yamato here since she is not part of kaido's crew
But with Marco and jozu the parallels are clear a tank and a bird one is YC1 the others YC2
All you need to know is
YC1 > YC2
But with Marco and jozu the parallels are clear a tank and a bird one is YC1 the others YC2
All you need to know is
YC1 > YC2