Future Events Will Kid Disarm Kaido or Big Mom?
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nope. This DOES NOT matter whatsoever. You know why? Because Law exists. Law can disarm the yonko any time he wishes too. he can teleport their weapons anywhere he wants.
But you know why Law hasnt and WILL NOT do this? Because Oda does not want a precedent. The moment Law does this, it immeditely means there is no weapon user from now to the end of the series that should give law trouble beause everyone will just ask "Why doesnt law do the thing he did against Big mom and teleport away the person's weapon?"
SO its IMPERATIVE that Kid either ACTUALLY does this or he ACTUALLY does NOT do this. there is no middle ground about specualting that he maybe can and just doesnt do it. The moment Oda gives Kid the ability to disarm a Yonko, it immeditely recontextualises how exactly someone from the red hair crew managed to cut his arm off and from then onwards Kid versus Weapon users is a whole other ball game.
Sorry but One piece is very poorly written in terms of powers so scaling doesnt matter unless Oda decides a character can do a thing.
But you know why Law hasnt and WILL NOT do this? Because Oda does not want a precedent. The moment Law does this, it immeditely means there is no weapon user from now to the end of the series that should give law trouble beause everyone will just ask "Why doesnt law do the thing he did against Big mom and teleport away the person's weapon?"
SO its IMPERATIVE that Kid either ACTUALLY does this or he ACTUALLY does NOT do this. there is no middle ground about specualting that he maybe can and just doesnt do it. The moment Oda gives Kid the ability to disarm a Yonko, it immeditely recontextualises how exactly someone from the red hair crew managed to cut his arm off and from then onwards Kid versus Weapon users is a whole other ball game.
Sorry but One piece is very poorly written in terms of powers so scaling doesnt matter unless Oda decides a character can do a thing.
This is simply a guessing thread asking people to weigh in their minds how much wank they think Kid deserves. Same way people make threads about whether ZKK will happen. This is a thread about whther a thing happens and only that. ZKK will either happen or not happen. Same way Kid will disarm a yonko or he cannot.
This is a test for how much wank Kid deserves in the reader's mind the same way ZKK is test for Zoro.
If you believe Kid WILL NOT disarm a yonko, then that gives you an idea of how much wank you give Kid. because we know if he does do this, it is momentus in terms of his power scaling
This is a test for how much wank Kid deserves in the reader's mind the same way ZKK is test for Zoro.
If you believe Kid WILL NOT disarm a yonko, then that gives you an idea of how much wank you give Kid. because we know if he does do this, it is momentus in terms of his power scaling
Like disarming is the ultimative wank-level-measurement? Sorry but this doesnt make sense to me.
While i can wank Kid and say, hypotheticaly, he is able to beat Kaido together with Luffy, heck i could go insane (not my opinion, but just to explain the argument) he can solo Kaido and Big mum and still say he cant disarm them with his magnetic force. The connection you make here isnt necessary for wanking him.
While i am sure he will fight Kaido together with Luffy, in a Team, i am not sure about the disarming.
Your connection of "disarming = strength/wank" is just not given in my opinion.
While i can wank Kid and say, hypotheticaly, he is able to beat Kaido together with Luffy, heck i could go insane (not my opinion, but just to explain the argument) he can solo Kaido and Big mum and still say he cant disarm them with his magnetic force. The connection you make here isnt necessary for wanking him.
While i am sure he will fight Kaido together with Luffy, in a Team, i am not sure about the disarming.
Your connection of "disarming = strength/wank" is just not given in my opinion.
I mean people also say Zoro can solo Kaido and momma given how they both freak out at a mid tier sword slash from Zoro BUT that doesnt diminish the fact that ZKK is still the ultimate wank for Zoro this arc that is most likely possible.
There is bothing Kid is set up to do that is better than disarming the yonko and thats why it is also the ultimate wank for kid. There is something that can be contrued as to support ZKK the same way that something exists for Kid disarming.
So this is the ultimate wank because it IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE, but you know, it depends on whether Oda actually thinks Kid is tough shit.
There is bothing Kid is set up to do that is better than disarming the yonko and thats why it is also the ultimate wank for kid. There is something that can be contrued as to support ZKK the same way that something exists for Kid disarming.
So this is the ultimate wank because it IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE, but you know, it depends on whether Oda actually thinks Kid is tough shit.
You try to state his only reason for being their and his maximum impact is taking away a sword and a club. Yes, that’s downplaying. Usually done to hype up some other character. Measure his impact only in „disarm a Yonko“ or „not disarm a Yonko“ is quite useless. He can massively impact without even trying to disarm them. At the end he could take them down with luffy, without trying to disarm them and you would still try to measure it like that.
I even wrote this isn’t my opinion. So you have either a massively Problem in understanding basic English, or you trolling on purpose.
I even wrote this isn’t my opinion. So you have either a massively Problem in understanding basic English, or you trolling on purpose.
You mean with his body slams?
Give me an example in your wildest imagination what Kid can possibly do better than the disarming. Hehehe, Note that kid all but confirmed he doesn't have anywhere near G4 level strength when he's commenting on Luffy having "that kind of power"
SO please. now im interested. tell me what you think Kid can possibly do here
Give me an example in your wildest imagination what Kid can possibly do better than the disarming. Hehehe, Note that kid all but confirmed he doesn't have anywhere near G4 level strength when he's commenting on Luffy having "that kind of power"
SO please. now im interested. tell me what you think Kid can possibly do here
Yeah, you are not trying to downplay or clown, obviously.... 
But about his possibilities... depending on how far Oda wants to go.
In absolutely extrem (far away from what i assume as possible in one piece at that stage) he could be able to manipulate the iron in the blood of everyone, controlling their bloodpressure, even let their heart stop beating, could use the iron in his blood to form a little knife which cuts straight up into the brain. Or blow him up from the inside with the metall.
More realistically, he could bring metallpieces into Kaidos body and cut kaido with that from the inside. Or he could build different kinds of armors for himself, may even connected to mechanical ussage (like franky does manually), cause we know he is mechanical-affine. He can stall the Yonko with another kind of armor or prison.
What i can realistically assume also is kid creating some kind of storm of metall around Kaido and Big mum, also connected to CoC and CoA, which has thousand of little sharp pieces cutting around and giving a great tag team opening. For example, Luffy and Kid charging for Kaido and Law uses shambles to change their position more or less randomly with metallpieces, which are storming around Kaido. Would give them the ability to attack Kaido without him know from where. Also Law could just shamble metall in Kaidos stomach to give kid the possibility to cut him open.
Magnetism can be the most ridicilious and overpowered ability, if Oda is willing to. All depending on his creativity and plans. But they are more countless possibilities.
But about his possibilities... depending on how far Oda wants to go.
In absolutely extrem (far away from what i assume as possible in one piece at that stage) he could be able to manipulate the iron in the blood of everyone, controlling their bloodpressure, even let their heart stop beating, could use the iron in his blood to form a little knife which cuts straight up into the brain. Or blow him up from the inside with the metall.
More realistically, he could bring metallpieces into Kaidos body and cut kaido with that from the inside. Or he could build different kinds of armors for himself, may even connected to mechanical ussage (like franky does manually), cause we know he is mechanical-affine. He can stall the Yonko with another kind of armor or prison.
What i can realistically assume also is kid creating some kind of storm of metall around Kaido and Big mum, also connected to CoC and CoA, which has thousand of little sharp pieces cutting around and giving a great tag team opening. For example, Luffy and Kid charging for Kaido and Law uses shambles to change their position more or less randomly with metallpieces, which are storming around Kaido. Would give them the ability to attack Kaido without him know from where. Also Law could just shamble metall in Kaidos stomach to give kid the possibility to cut him open.
Magnetism can be the most ridicilious and overpowered ability, if Oda is willing to. All depending on his creativity and plans. But they are more countless possibilities.
Well thats the thing, if Kid actually does disarm kaido I WILL be surprised. Because before this fight started i was sure Kid was gonna be magnet man doing ridiculous shit (because i knew he didnt have ryuo) but now my expectations are soooo low. Like he doesnt have G$ level strength and all he does is body slams. Like I'm telling you, i'm baely holding onto kid disarming the yonko because right now that is actually surprising to me
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@Pantheos Kid sneaking metal razors into Kaido's mouth is a better power feat than Disarming Kaido by literally overpowering his grip on his weapon?
Also your metal storm wont hurt kaido coz you know, advanced armament. Remember.
And what do you mean by Metal armor or prison? Like Kid makes a metal thing that literally holds down kaido and prevents him from moving? basically kid has to create more magnetic force than the Yonko's physical strength. The same kid who was shhocked by G4 level power has to have up his magnetic force stronger than a yonko's strength. Hehehe... FIne. Well i will admit, that is actually better than disarming a yonko. Problem is, you know, Kid's response to G4.
Anyway, I won't address that Magneto nonsense since its impossible as you yourself noted
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@Pantheos Kid sneaking metal razors into Kaido's mouth is a better power feat than Disarming Kaido by literally overpowering his grip on his weapon?
Also your metal storm wont hurt kaido coz you know, advanced armament. Remember.
And what do you mean by Metal armor or prison? Like Kid makes a metal thing that literally holds down kaido and prevents him from moving? basically kid has to create more magnetic force than the Yonko's physical strength. The same kid who was shhocked by G4 level power has to have up his magnetic force stronger than a yonko's strength. Hehehe... FIne. Well i will admit, that is actually better than disarming a yonko. Problem is, you know, Kid's response to G4.
Anyway, I won't address that Magneto nonsense since its impossible as you yourself noted
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