Future Events Will Sanji fight Kaido or not? Bet thread
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Doesn't Viz work closely on manga works than any other translations? If it actually meant like it look like in Japanese, why did they change it? Doesn't seem like they would do that. I hear a lot many state what Viz's translations are the 'official' ones, so until then or they state something else, it should be that.
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I mean it's Kyoshiro, so he would be stronger than T6H though, so would be a 'fodder' to him. Not much proof and again where is panel of Page One after the fight and why he never join back up with Drake and Hawkins. Oda isn't dumb to leave someone out if they were still active that whole time.
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Kyoushiro confirmed only the fodders were beat
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No he didnt
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No he didnt
He wont, he's fighting Queen at best imo
Back in DR, Multiple Sanji's DJ attack did nothing to Doffy whose durability is nowhere close to Kaido's, are there really some who expect Sanji to deal significant damage to Kaido the durability freak?
Back in Kuri iirc, Fully charged RS attack did no damage to P1, a flying six, are there really soome who expect Sanji to deal significant damage tto Kaido?
him beating a YC is a way bettter feat than him doing nothing against Kaido and BM
Back in DR, Multiple Sanji's DJ attack did nothing to Doffy whose durability is nowhere close to Kaido's, are there really some who expect Sanji to deal significant damage to Kaido the durability freak?
Back in Kuri iirc, Fully charged RS attack did no damage to P1, a flying six, are there really soome who expect Sanji to deal significant damage tto Kaido?
him beating a YC is a way bettter feat than him doing nothing against Kaido and BM
That is compliment to them as he acknowledge their level of strength. What do you mean?
He stated more than that their attack wasn't enough, but early they gotten stronger to replicate his technique, but still wasn't enough.
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Whether King or Queen, Sanji will be able to arrive to fight Kaido later as by going on Enies Lobby, he was still able to fight numerous marines from Buster Call and plus even if he get hurt in fight, Macro is there to heal everyone, so not much excuse on why he would sit it out especially to help support Luffy like Zoro is doing.
Also using past arcs means nothing when he stronger now and PO was defeated by him. It's embarrassing to denied that when it clear as he never came back anymore until 2 weeks time in story when Fire Festival start. Holdem heal up after Luffy beat him, does that mean Luffy isn't stronger than Holdem just because he came back after their fight?
He stated more than that their attack wasn't enough, but early they gotten stronger to replicate his technique, but still wasn't enough.
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Whether King or Queen, Sanji will be able to arrive to fight Kaido later as by going on Enies Lobby, he was still able to fight numerous marines from Buster Call and plus even if he get hurt in fight, Macro is there to heal everyone, so not much excuse on why he would sit it out especially to help support Luffy like Zoro is doing.
Also using past arcs means nothing when he stronger now and PO was defeated by him. It's embarrassing to denied that when it clear as he never came back anymore until 2 weeks time in story when Fire Festival start. Holdem heal up after Luffy beat him, does that mean Luffy isn't stronger than Holdem just because he came back after their fight?
No it's not, he said they were too strong for Jack which is not a compliment. It was to make Jack feel better about losing.
He never said they had gotten stronger to replicate his technique, he said you people are not Oden and you don't even have enough power to open up the old scar. That's literally an insult, not a compliment.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
He never said they had gotten stronger to replicate his technique, he said you people are not Oden and you don't even have enough power to open up the old scar. That's literally an insult, not a compliment.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Where I was from, it was diverse even Zoro fans didn't think he would make it up there as they thought he will face more King or Queen. Here doesn't count what others think outside of the website. I am just saying. Though I have spoken to even Zoro fans who didn't see him going up there at all. You don't have proof to state whole fanbase on his side were believing that as some didn't believe as you think 
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Calling enemy 'strong' is not compliment? Are you being serious? Your making me take you less seriously more we talk if your think that wasn't compliment to them on blatantly acknowledging their strength was above Jack.
He did said they gotten stronger, but just that not on level of Oden is all even as they do his style. It was compliment first and then insult afterwards.
Your only one embarrassing yourself here.
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Calling enemy 'strong' is not compliment? Are you being serious? Your making me take you less seriously more we talk if your think that wasn't compliment to them on blatantly acknowledging their strength was above Jack.
He did said they gotten stronger, but just that not on level of Oden is all even as they do his style. It was compliment first and then insult afterwards.
Your only one embarrassing yourself here.
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He complimented Enma, not him. He keep talking about Oden's spirit each time with sword. You don't compliment weapon over the user unlike he was doing with Luffy who he compliment on being him. Not the same thing at all.
Also your example make no sense at all and don't take debate seriously just because you can't back it up.
Also your example make no sense at all and don't take debate seriously just because you can't back it up.
Pre RS Wano Sanji is just the same as DR Sanji, from what means has Sanji gotten stronger? He has never had any extreme diff fight nor a proper self-training, the only way he has ever improved since TS is his RS only, And as i said, sanji being healthy or not is irrelevant because of 2 following reasons
1. We have seen a fully charged RS attack from healthy Sanji did no significant damage to a F6, how would Sanji deal damage Kaido?
2. We have seen multiple named DJ attack from healthy Sanji did no damage to Doffy, Add RS to that, it wouldve only tickled him, add HM to that it would have surely damaged Doffy, but damaging Doffy is still not enough to harm Kaido since luffy have already achieved such feats long ago but wasnt still not enough to significantly harm Kaido Pre Udon
And the rest of your points are irrelevant because we're not talking about power level in general, i was talking about whether Sanji's AP is enough to deal damage to Kaido
1. We have seen a fully charged RS attack from healthy Sanji did no significant damage to a F6, how would Sanji deal damage Kaido?
2. We have seen multiple named DJ attack from healthy Sanji did no damage to Doffy, Add RS to that, it wouldve only tickled him, add HM to that it would have surely damaged Doffy, but damaging Doffy is still not enough to harm Kaido since luffy have already achieved such feats long ago but wasnt still not enough to significantly harm Kaido Pre Udon
And the rest of your points are irrelevant because we're not talking about power level in general, i was talking about whether Sanji's AP is enough to deal damage to Kaido
Wrong, he said well done after Zoro attacked him before he even noticed Enma. Either way, if you could read which I don't think you can, Enma uses Zoro's own Haki. And Big Mom acknowledged Zoro by saying "That brat actually managed to cut Kaido". Therefore, Zoro is not playing a support role and you're a desperate jealous candy because even EOS Sanji will never be acknowledged by Yonko.
You're the one who can't back shit up with panels and has to resort to lying.
You're the one who can't back shit up with panels and has to resort to lying.
Yes you are right that Viz is one of those Company that really had license of Shonen jump Manga to translate it in english. And thats why it is called "Official english". But due to what Viz past translation mistake, many people is confused and starting to see kanji/hiragana from Raw manga to knew the truth. Thats why people make argue with you about the behead/slay thing. But Viz became a better translation after Stephen Paul came. He is better translator but not credible as Oda (because he is the author) Thats why my post say that. The kanji oda using is really behead/slay or kill BUT its different than what oden say about the behead thing because its just one Hiragana of behead (zoro) when oden was full context. Thats just what i know. You can clearly search he is arguing with someone on twitter with this topic.
Nah, bruh. People don't stay same after going into each arc for next. Otherwise was was Law fighting with Kaido given what happen in Dressrosa? Everyone train and get stronger each arc, that is a thing there.
1. Sanji defeated PO with ease without trying and King couldn't even damage him either while blocking his attacks.
2. Again, characters get stronger from each arc, it's dumb to use same stuff as last time to say they still same level when they aren't. Sanji has means to hurt his opponents given we never seen him going full power even in this arc when beating PO and Drake.
I mean we saw Scabbards and Supernova are attacking and damaging his Full Zoan, Sanji is in same degree to do that. If you mean Hybrid Form or Base Form, I have to wait and see on that.
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Fujitora was told to not intervene to fight Doflamingo. He has the power to destory it, but can't. We not going to ignore him with him effortlessly lifting all that rumble above whole island like that, bruh. Doesn't make sense at all.
Yeah to themselves, not their weapons. With Zoro, he is still on about weapon which heavily hinting it is more source of power, not on his abilities. Even Zoro states about it having abilities of it's own during the battle.
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Yeah, but doesn't mean he see him doing actual damage to him unlike Luffy who he felt actually hurting him and maybe Kidd and Law as well.
Enma has more abilities than that though especially Big Mom and Kaido still refers to sword over Zoro and Zoro stating about it having abilities as well. Meaning this situation is like shadows with Nightmare Luffy that are aiding here, but that doesn't mean Zoro isn't strong, but just something else at play here.
He is support and this doesn't have anything to do with Sanji. I talk as a fan of Zoro and stating the facts. Don't be insecure when someone disagree with you. Also Sanji already got acknowledge by guys like Rayleigh and Big Mom. What you on?
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Hmmm....I have to read about that, but even so if it was a 'massive' mistranslation, they would have state it on twitter or something. Though instead they still kept what they originally post, so can't be that and hope your not pushing Zoro will actually kill Kaido as that is not liable to be seen when Luffy vs Kaido is set situation.
1. Sanji defeated PO with ease without trying and King couldn't even damage him either while blocking his attacks.
2. Again, characters get stronger from each arc, it's dumb to use same stuff as last time to say they still same level when they aren't. Sanji has means to hurt his opponents given we never seen him going full power even in this arc when beating PO and Drake.
I mean we saw Scabbards and Supernova are attacking and damaging his Full Zoan, Sanji is in same degree to do that. If you mean Hybrid Form or Base Form, I have to wait and see on that.
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Fujitora was told to not intervene to fight Doflamingo. He has the power to destory it, but can't. We not going to ignore him with him effortlessly lifting all that rumble above whole island like that, bruh. Doesn't make sense at all.
Yeah to themselves, not their weapons. With Zoro, he is still on about weapon which heavily hinting it is more source of power, not on his abilities. Even Zoro states about it having abilities of it's own during the battle.
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Yeah, but doesn't mean he see him doing actual damage to him unlike Luffy who he felt actually hurting him and maybe Kidd and Law as well.
Enma has more abilities than that though especially Big Mom and Kaido still refers to sword over Zoro and Zoro stating about it having abilities as well. Meaning this situation is like shadows with Nightmare Luffy that are aiding here, but that doesn't mean Zoro isn't strong, but just something else at play here.
He is support and this doesn't have anything to do with Sanji. I talk as a fan of Zoro and stating the facts. Don't be insecure when someone disagree with you. Also Sanji already got acknowledge by guys like Rayleigh and Big Mom. What you on?
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Hmmm....I have to read about that, but even so if it was a 'massive' mistranslation, they would have state it on twitter or something. Though instead they still kept what they originally post, so can't be that and hope your not pushing Zoro will actually kill Kaido as that is not liable to be seen when Luffy vs Kaido is set situation.
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He was bleeding for 3 panels straight after Zoro cut him, stop talking shit. He said Law and Kidd were using tricks to bypass his scales. Only an idiot would think Law and Kidd have better portrayal than Zoro in the fight.
I don't care what you say about Enma, Zoro is wielding it. Stop lying about being a fan of Zoro. Rayleigh acknowledged all the Straw Hats and Big Mom never positively acknowledged Sanji.
He isn't support and this has everything to do with Sanji because you said Sanji would play a support role like Zoro. Stop talking out of your ass, Sanji dies as soon as he steps foot on the roof.
Law has hax, Sanji doesnt, and no lol, how could sanji grow stronger if he doesnt put effort into it, and show me panel if Sanji really trained
why would you bring Sanji's not getting significant damaged from King argument, that's not my point lol, why do you like to insert unnecessary stuffs man lol? pls stay still with the main point lol. In case you forgot it, my point is
"Can Sanji deal significant damage to Kaido"
Points unrelated to that are irrelevant. And yes, Sanji did win against P1 in a sense that Sanji achieved what he wanted while P1 didnt, not in a sense of real fighting.
as i said, Headcanon, show me panel where Sanji gets stronger other than through RS. And no lol, Sanji never defeated PO or Drake in a 1 on 1, sorry man but your arguments are gettting more off as you argue more
Because scabbards have the means which are blades and Adv CoA
And please dude, dont bring up unrelated topics lol
why would you bring Sanji's not getting significant damaged from King argument, that's not my point lol, why do you like to insert unnecessary stuffs man lol? pls stay still with the main point lol. In case you forgot it, my point is
"Can Sanji deal significant damage to Kaido"
Points unrelated to that are irrelevant. And yes, Sanji did win against P1 in a sense that Sanji achieved what he wanted while P1 didnt, not in a sense of real fighting.
as i said, Headcanon, show me panel where Sanji gets stronger other than through RS. And no lol, Sanji never defeated PO or Drake in a 1 on 1, sorry man but your arguments are gettting more off as you argue more
Because scabbards have the means which are blades and Adv CoA
And please dude, dont bring up unrelated topics lol
So was Kaido from Scabbards as well, but look what happen to them later in one-shot fashion especially Zoro did it while he was focus on Luffy. That is support, not face to face fight.
Lol Kidd and Law are better than Zoro. What you talking about? It's clear their powers are above his and he is keeping with Killer in support as well.
He spoke to Sanji the most though when regarding about Luffy and Big Mom does see worth in Sanji given he stop her attack along with Luffy.
He is support just like Zoro is support too. There is no biased of Z vs S. I am fan of both, but don't speak BS though. Not salty and insecure like you being.
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Doesn't stop the fact he didn't beat Doffy overall and yet he is now fighting Kaido? You don't stay on same level as before, so it shows. Your getting in denial than factual one.
Your saying Sanji won't handle guys like this now, but it showing opposite on him facing them in this arc as he shows he is. He going to fight King or maybe Queen in this arc, so denying he won't be stronger to face them seems like denial your gonig for.
We saw him beat Drake with blessing of Oda about scene is canon just like with flashback he accept being added. If Sanji wasn't on the level, he wouldn't be able to win. Also lol, he beat them, bruh. Your not making sense on your side here.
I mean you don't need weapons like that only as Kidd, Law, and Killer are damaging Kaido and while their Haki is on level, it's not about swords though. Same with Sanji if he is able to make Ancient Zoan scream out in pain and defeat them without going full power, he be able to keep up in fight with Kaido like the others.
Lol Kidd and Law are better than Zoro. What you talking about? It's clear their powers are above his and he is keeping with Killer in support as well.
He spoke to Sanji the most though when regarding about Luffy and Big Mom does see worth in Sanji given he stop her attack along with Luffy.
He is support just like Zoro is support too. There is no biased of Z vs S. I am fan of both, but don't speak BS though. Not salty and insecure like you being.
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Doesn't stop the fact he didn't beat Doffy overall and yet he is now fighting Kaido? You don't stay on same level as before, so it shows. Your getting in denial than factual one.
Your saying Sanji won't handle guys like this now, but it showing opposite on him facing them in this arc as he shows he is. He going to fight King or maybe Queen in this arc, so denying he won't be stronger to face them seems like denial your gonig for.
We saw him beat Drake with blessing of Oda about scene is canon just like with flashback he accept being added. If Sanji wasn't on the level, he wouldn't be able to win. Also lol, he beat them, bruh. Your not making sense on your side here.
I mean you don't need weapons like that only as Kidd, Law, and Killer are damaging Kaido and while their Haki is on level, it's not about swords though. Same with Sanji if he is able to make Ancient Zoan scream out in pain and defeat them without going full power, he be able to keep up in fight with Kaido like the others.
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Nope, no scabbard attack made him bleed that much and he insulted them after they cut him. After Zoro cut Kaido, Big Mom expressed shock and Kaido got mad and competed with Zoro's Tatsumaki attack. None of the scabbards got that portrayal.
No they're not better because Zoro did way more to Kaido than either of them. It's not my fault you can't read.
Rayleigh spoke to all the Straw Hats. He never acknowledged Sanji specifically. And no Big Mom doesn't see any worth in Sanji, she didn't acknowledge him after he needed Luffy's help to block her attack.
Zoro isn't support no matter how much you lie to yourself because you're a delusional Sanjitard. Shut the fuck up.
No they're not better because Zoro did way more to Kaido than either of them. It's not my fault you can't read.
Rayleigh spoke to all the Straw Hats. He never acknowledged Sanji specifically. And no Big Mom doesn't see any worth in Sanji, she didn't acknowledge him after he needed Luffy's help to block her attack.
Zoro isn't support no matter how much you lie to yourself because you're a delusional Sanjitard. Shut the fuck up.
It still make him bleed and he tank it like he did with Zoro's attack who did support to protect Luffy and is now doing so for him to charge up.
They are better in both portrayal and power as you see how position and competing going on with Zoro more with Killer and Luffy, Kidd, and Law with each other.
He did talk to him face to face more than one especially in regards to Luffy than any of the other Strawhats. Big Mom didn't acknowledge them as she have smile on her face on being impress on them blocking her attack.
He is one. Again I am fan of both. Nothing to do with Sanji and your just being insecure about it more you keep doing this, bruh.
They are better in both portrayal and power as you see how position and competing going on with Zoro more with Killer and Luffy, Kidd, and Law with each other.
He did talk to him face to face more than one especially in regards to Luffy than any of the other Strawhats. Big Mom didn't acknowledge them as she have smile on her face on being impress on them blocking her attack.
He is one. Again I am fan of both. Nothing to do with Sanji and your just being insecure about it more you keep doing this, bruh.