Chapter Discussion Will Vegapunk die ?

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#21
It's One Piece so I hesitate predicting anyone's death, but I think Vegapunk will most likely die.
 
#22
Vegapunk stated when he moves , he will die .

He will be saved in miracle one piece way or after vegapunk gives some precious information or secret to Sanji or Luffy (i dont think so Luffy will understand it) , he will die ?
There is much more behind Vegapunk being on the brink of death, as Oda gives away. First, look back at what Shaka said: He was always seen most concerned about the Stellar's safety than his own and even told Luffy to see to the Stellar's safety. Now, the time has come, when the Stellar is actually in great danger. If Shaka was there, he would do everything he can to make sure the Stellar is saved.

And now it get's interesting: Look at chapter 1090. Here the Gorosei ask Luffy, how many people are up there with him in the Dome. Luffy almost answers as truthfully as we know him. But this thruthfull answer is interrupted by Robin, who says that Luffy should not tell them such important information. For us, the action of Robin stopping Luffy from telling them the right information, is an indicator that Oda wants to hide the true answer to that question from us.
And instead of Luffy giving us an answer, it is Lilith, who crys for Shaka, Pythagoras and Edison. And here it gets even stranger, since Lilith also adds Edison to the list of "dead Satellites", even though, he is there right in her arms: Here she just mixed up, of who was supposed to be dead and who not.

All this tells us that Shaka or Pythagoras or both are probably still alive. A good hint is the food, which magically appeared next to Luffy or the fact that someone dragged Luffy to the vending machine.

Now, if Shaka is alive, than he will definitely fullfill his first priority and transporting Vegapunk to safety, while Luffy and Sanji take care of their enemies.
This way Oda does not disregard Shakas wish and is actually writing a very good ending to his goal.
 
#23
There is much more behind Vegapunk being on the brink of death, as Oda gives away. First, look back at what Shaka said: He was always seen most concerned about the Stellar's safety than his own and even told Luffy to see to the Stellar's safety. Now, the time has come, when the Stellar is actually in great danger. If Shaka was there, he would do everything he can to make sure the Stellar is saved.

And now it get's interesting: Look at chapter 1090. Here the Gorosei ask Luffy, how many people are up there with him in the Dome. Luffy almost answers as truthfully as we know him. But this thruthfull answer is interrupted by Robin, who says that Luffy should not tell them such important information. For us, the action of Robin stopping Luffy from telling them the right information, is an indicator that Oda wants to hide the true answer to that question from us.
And instead of Luffy giving us an answer, it is Lilith, who crys for Shaka, Pythagoras and Edison. And here it gets even stranger, since Lilith also adds Edison to the list of "dead Satellites", even though, he is there right in her arms: Here she just mixed up, of who was supposed to be dead and who not.

All this tells us that Shaka or Pythagoras or both are probably still alive. A good hint is the food, which magically appeared next to Luffy or the fact that someone dragged Luffy to the vending machine.

Now, if Shaka is alive, than he will definitely fullfill his first priority and transporting Vegapunk to safety, while Luffy and Sanji take care of their enemies.
This way Oda does not disregard Shakas wish and is actually writing a very good ending to his goal.
In this case , Arc would be very disappoinment again. No lose for strawhats again or his allies.
 
#25
What would you like to see, when you say `lossยด?
you know when u want to hype final villain , which is world government in that case , you should show some impressive feats that people can believe their power. World goverment only losing something whenever they enter somewhere. Only lulusia kingdom is exception. However , they did not even achieve to kill Sabo there again. In Egghead case , if Oda want to convice us about world government power , at least they need to accomplish something in current era. But what we have seen so far is nothing.
Kizari and Saturn did nothing. Marines did not do nothing. So i am starting to believe world goverment is a bunch of fools praising theirselves at this point :)
 
#27
you know when u want to hype final villain , which is world government in that case , you should show some impressive feats that people can believe their power. World goverment only losing something whenever they enter somewhere. Only lulusia kingdom is exception. However , they did not even achieve to kill Sabo there again. In Egghead case , if Oda want to convice us about world government power , at least they need to accomplish something in current era. But what we have seen so far is nothing.
Kizari and Saturn did nothing. Marines did not do nothing. So i am starting to believe world goverment is a bunch of fools praising theirselves at this point :)
The feeling of the WG/Kizaru/Saturn/VA currently not being hyped by Oda is because we up until now have seen only the Bonney and Kuma plot-strand, which has now been completed with them leaving the battle in the last chapter. What is now starting is an entirely new plot-strand. And you see it with Oda now focussing more on Vegapunk again - where before, he almost ignored him although he is one of the main protagonists of the arc. This Vegapunk-plot-strand is the actual main plot-strand of the arc. And with Oda now picking it up, he will build tension very slowly around it now.

This also means that the tension needs to come from something. And this something is having it's source in the WG, which is now applying pressure, slowly. You start seeing that by Kizaru mentioning, that he is in "a pickle" now. It implies that he slowly will need to get serious now. Alone his lack of attacks, which pose danger to Luffy and can inflict serious damage to him, has not really been explored by Oda. All this is because Bonney and Kuma's story was needed to be told. With them gone now, Oda will take us to something, the readers will very well remember to be peak, because he is currently hiding so tremendously much, that he even had to put that little time-skip of him in the middle of the arc. Alone this should make us suspicious of what lies ahead.

Just be patient and relax - the WG will show us some moves and wins throughout the arc. It just haven't really started, yet. :pepelit:
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By the way - I forgot to mention that Oda even announced a plot-twist in his last Festa-letter. This also should us give pause. And after this, maybe we get to see the 9 VAs against the 9 SHPs. But, who knows...
 
#28
The feeling of the WG/Kizaru/Saturn/VA currently not being hyped by Oda is because we up until now have seen only the Bonney and Kuma plot-strand, which has now been completed with them leaving the battle in the last chapter. What is now starting is an entirely new plot-strand. And you see it with Oda now focussing more on Vegapunk again - where before, he almost ignored him although he is one of the main protagonists of the arc. This Vegapunk-plot-strand is the actual main plot-strand of the arc. And with Oda now picking it up, he will build tension very slowly around it now.

This also means that the tension needs to come from something. And this something is having it's source in the WG, which is now applying pressure, slowly. You start seeing that by Kizaru mentioning, that he is in "a pickle" now. It implies that he slowly will need to get serious now. Alone his lack of attacks, which pose danger to Luffy and can inflict serious damage to him, has not really been explored by Oda. All this is because Bonney and Kuma's story was needed to be told. With them gone now, Oda will take us to something, the readers will very well remember to be peak, because he is currently hiding so tremendously much, that he even had to put that little time-skip of him in the middle of the arc. Alone this should make us suspicious of what lies ahead.

Just be patient and relax - the WG will show us some moves and wins throughout the arc. It just haven't really started, yet. :pepelit:
Post automatically merged:

By the way - I forgot to mention that Oda even announced a plot-twist in his last Festa-letter. This also should us give pause. And after this, maybe we get to see the 9 VAs against the 9 SHPs. But, who knows...
do not you feel at this point Giants will open the way in 5 chapter and they are all escaped without any loss ?
If world goverment did not achieve anything in this arc against pirates , there will be no any other arc to hype them again .
In my opinion last ten chapter for this arc nothing more. if anybody dies and end with happy ending for SH , this would be bad
 
#29
do not you feel at this point Giants will open the way in 5 chapter and they are all escaped without any loss ?
If world goverment did not achieve anything in this arc against pirates , there will be no any other arc to hype them again .
In my opinion last ten chapter for this arc nothing more. if anybody dies and end with happy ending for SH , this would be bad
No, not at all. Oda is not even nearly done with Egghead. He has left so many plot holes and hints that it is impossible for him to just move on at this point:
- we haven't touched anything about Vegapunk (his past; his fear of a father hurting his child; why he is working for the WG though he does not like them)
- We haven't touched what happened during the time-skip (Oda did not show us what happened to Shaka after CHopper - a doctor - arrived at the basement, or how well Lucci and Luffy worked together)
- We haven't touched anything regarding the current situation and why we have suddenly food appear or Luffy beeing dragged somewhere

Story-wise, we as readers now see the path wide open and the opportunity to leave for the SHPs is good. And this is exactly what Oda is waiting for. Because now, he can pull out the big guns of the WG and reveal why the WG is such a huge thread this arc (It builds tension.). Either Saturn or Kizaru will do something that will highten the tention of the arc. And this will inavitably make the situation for the SHPs bad again.

Trust me, Egghead is not done.
 
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