Powers & Abilities Will weaker characters like Sanji unlocking ACoC devalue ACoC?

[Sir Yasheen]

And where was this power of love in battle against Queen , Saturn

Literally allowing Sanji to rewrite his DNA in the Queen fight so he could maintain his sense of self and emotions despite the germa exoskeleton?

 

[DonWick]

Sanji having it will destroy the entire meaning of Having CoC in the first place.

Everyone with AdCoC are certified Top tier , or low top tiers as of now.

Sanji power ups are never related to Haki , they are going totally different route with Sanji with Germa and Fure conjuring.

I hope they go a different route, giving him ACoC seems like a bit much. Everyone shouldn’t have it.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Color of Conqueror

No im saying what meaning it has that would be destoryed by sanji getting it?

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Zolofans:

Roger - Luffy
Rayleigh - Zoro
Gaban - ???

Do you have trouble reading or something?

 

[L57]

Literally allowing Sanji to rewrite his DNA in the Queen fight so he could maintain his sense of self and emotions despite the germa exoskeleton?

He didnt do that tho

Shit stopped bcs he didnt used rs enough

 

[DonWick]

No im saying what meaning it has that would be destoryed by sanji getting it?

Because it’s supposed to be a rare ability and the advanced version is supposed to be even more rare than that. Everyone shouldn’t have it.

 

[RyoQ]

I think the best of the best comparison would be Gabans captain. Saying he stood shoulder to shoulder with Roger and Rayleigh does mean his strength was equal. If I told you to put Sanji vs Prime WB both in their prime you wouldn’t hesitate or think about it before saying WB.

I put Primebeard as slightly above Prime Roger

And I put Prime Roger >= Rayleigh >= Gaban

So if we consider the gaps, Primebeard > Gaban, roughly one tier above. That is to say Gaban pushes Primebeard to upper mid-diff/high-diff. I would see no problem considering today's equivalent of Primebeard as a tier above EOS Sanji

 

[Dragon777]

Yamato already "devalued" all she could.

Characters like Gaban and potentially Sanji of anything are a huge upgrade from her.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Because it’s supposed to be a rare ability and the advanced version is supposed to be even more rare than that. Everyone shouldn’t have it.

Trash like Yamato already ruins that.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Because it’s supposed to be a rare ability and the advanced version is supposed to be even more rare than that. Everyone shouldn’t have it.

One in a million isnt even rare

 

[Rumble]

Or I’m genuinely curious. I make it very obvious when I’m trolling. This isn’t one of those times.

There's plenty of trolling on this board, you borderline spam these threads for attention and it's weird.

 

[DonWick]

One in a million isnt even rare

It certainly is but ACoC is more rare than that.

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There's plenty of trolling on this board, you borderline spam these threads for attention and it's weird.

Brother, you have a block button. If the threads don’t float your boat don’t enter.

I’ve never made this thread before, but you saw the title and still came here to complain don’t you think that’s borderline dumb?

 

[Welkin]

I don't really see how we're this far into the story and you don't think Sanji will be a top tier

With or without conqueror's haki it's very obvious that he'll be among the strongest characters in the verse by the end

Whether you feel like he'll be among the highest or lowest of that tier is one thing

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Literally allowing Sanji to rewrite his DNA in the Queen fight so he could maintain his sense of self and emotions despite the germa exoskeleton?

Did you skip the entire Germa plotline or something?

No im saying what meaning it has that would be destoryed by sanji getting it?

Rare ability , Strongest Among Strongest Gets it.

it is about the will to stand above others or maintain a position of dominance and respect.

Whitebeard’s ambition was to have a family and protect it.

Katakuri’s ambition was to be the perfect older brother and protect his family’s reputation.

Luffy's ambition is to be king of Pirates and is ready to take on Yonkou / Admirals.

Zoro's Ambition is to be the strongest Swordsman , Sitting above all the Swordsman.

Whereas Sanji doesn't have that kind of Personlity or even Ambition.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Did you skip the entire Germa plotline or something?


Rare ability , Strongest Among Strongest Gets it.

it is about the will to stand above others or maintain a position of dominance and respect.

Whitebeard’s ambition was to have a family and protect it.

Katakuri’s ambition was to be the perfect older brother and protect his family’s reputation.

Luffy's ambition is to be king of Pirates and is ready to take on Yonkou / Admirals.

Zoro's Ambition is to be the strongest Swordsman , Sitting above all the Swordsman.

Whereas Sanji doesn't have that kind of Personlity or even Ambition.

The plotline that says that the loss of emotion is tied to the exoskeleton and that’s ingrained in his genes?

 

[soheilhazrat]

It certainly is but ACoC is more rare than that

Lets say OP world has 8Billion people like our world ( which is honestly stupid since its obviously higher )
It'd mean OP world has 8 THOUSAND coc users and we've only seen what, 25 people? Its not rare unless u wanna make it for yourself

 

[MonsterKaido]

This is coming up because Scopper potentially has it. If he does have it it’s a good chance that Sanji could get it. However, in my opinion it should be saved for the highest of top tiers.

The only reason Zoro having it isn’t an issue to me is because he will be a top tier and have to defeat Mihawk.

Sanji on the other hand I can’t see being a top tier.

To be clear, I’m saying weaker in terms of not top tier (I realize Sanji is strong in comparison to characters YC2 & below) I don’t believe anyone that can’t fight a Yonko 1v1 and have a chance of winning is top tier.

First there are levels to even adv coc. JB's haki > Shanks's Haki > Kaido's Haki >> Yamato's Haki

Second sanji will be solid yonko at least in EOS.

 

[Rumble]

Brother, you have a block button. If the threads don’t float your boat don’t enter.

I’ve never made this thread before, but you saw the title and still came here to complain don’t you think that’s borderline dumb?

Now it's weird you're defensive and heated because I said it's weird you're baiting for attention. Bit of an overreaction in tone, and a weak deflection, but I'll leave you to it. Clearly you need this to get through your day.

 

[Dragon777]

First there are levels to even adv coc. JB's haki > Shanks's Haki > Kaido's Haki >> Yamato's Haki

Second sanji will be solid yonko at least in EOS.

This anyway.

Luffy of 1010 had CoC too, but It was levels far from, idk, Shanks.

 

[Welkin]

I would have accepted that if the powers up were linear with Roger Crew.

Roger - AdCoC - Haki beast - VoAT - Same for luffy

Ray - AdCoC - Haki Beast - Swordsman - Same for Zoro

Gaban - No clue about Haki , Uses AXE , - Nothing similar to Sanji except for Gag part.

So Gaban who's a normal human is considered a monster alongside Roger and Rayleigh because of.... nothing?

Why else would a human be considered a monster alongside two top tiers?

Surely it isn't because of the power system Oda spent hundreds of chapters establishing as the great equalizer

You know... the only thing that allows normal humans to reach that level of strength without a devil fruit or any racial/science abilities

Nothing concerning haki?