Current Events Will Xebec die smiling?
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I have a Theory that "Laugh Tale" similar to "Snowy Tale" means Joy Boy died in Kingdom covered in Laughter, trying to turn that Laughter into his Dream (Similar to Hiriluk turning Snow into Sakura Shit), and since Joy Boy is revealed as First Pirate, it means He invented Pirate Flag & He chose to define his Journey using Skull & Bones, which according to Hiriluk's Definition represents the impossible or whatever stops you from doing what you want (For example, He put Sakura stuff on Top of that Skull in his Jolly Roger cuz it's what He is chose to Use against whatever restricts him),
So imo this leads us to Conclude that Joy Boy's Dream involved turning Laughter into something that Cures "Death", hence why He chose Skull & Bones, cuz that's the Impossible Wall He wanted to find a Solution to in his Journey,
This is why many People die Laughing, it's like not only Symbolic, as in They don't Fear Death, but it's also like indirectly saying "I'm not gonna Die" as a Reference to Joy Boy's Dream that makes Laughter counter Death, something heavily hinted at & suggested in Kaidou vs Luffy Fight, (Which conveniently was indeed what Roger told Rayleigh before his Execution & after They found One Piece),
This imo means that anyone who Dies Smiling is basically taking Joy Boy's Side, while those who don't are taking which Side? WG,
Who conveniently were revealed to be Near-Unkillable, which means They are People who actually Fear Death,
So whether BB or Xebec Smile at Death depends on if They lean more towards WG Side or Joy Boy Side,
And the way i see it, Xebec seems to be Very Anti-WG, while Blackbeard (Even if He intends to Betray them) seems to be just a Pirate Version of them,
My Guess is that Blackbeard doesn't Smile at Death, but Xebec does.
So imo this leads us to Conclude that Joy Boy's Dream involved turning Laughter into something that Cures "Death", hence why He chose Skull & Bones, cuz that's the Impossible Wall He wanted to find a Solution to in his Journey,
This is why many People die Laughing, it's like not only Symbolic, as in They don't Fear Death, but it's also like indirectly saying "I'm not gonna Die" as a Reference to Joy Boy's Dream that makes Laughter counter Death, something heavily hinted at & suggested in Kaidou vs Luffy Fight, (Which conveniently was indeed what Roger told Rayleigh before his Execution & after They found One Piece),
This imo means that anyone who Dies Smiling is basically taking Joy Boy's Side, while those who don't are taking which Side? WG,
Who conveniently were revealed to be Near-Unkillable, which means They are People who actually Fear Death,
So whether BB or Xebec Smile at Death depends on if They lean more towards WG Side or Joy Boy Side,
And the way i see it, Xebec seems to be Very Anti-WG, while Blackbeard (Even if He intends to Betray them) seems to be just a Pirate Version of them,
My Guess is that Blackbeard doesn't Smile at Death, but Xebec does.
Are we still considering Xebec evil?
His ambitions may have put a lot at risk, but he doesn't come off as evil to me, the worst he's done is kill that admiral and even then we don't know the circumstances around it
I don't know if he died smiling or not but I do think he died fighting and kept fighting till his last breath
His ambitions may have put a lot at risk, but he doesn't come off as evil to me, the worst he's done is kill that admiral and even then we don't know the circumstances around it
I don't know if he died smiling or not but I do think he died fighting and kept fighting till his last breath
He raised a celestial brat
I think he died cursing the names of all those who betrayed him. And his curse worked.
Silver Axe disappeared. John, Ganzui and Gil died and became zombies. Shiki never got to defeat Roger and disappeared. Stussy and Gloriosa lost Whitebeard and Roger (and their beauty)
Kaido, Big Mom, Whitebeard and Ochoku stayed loyal, survived Roger's era and got to live a decent pirate life
Silver Axe disappeared. John, Ganzui and Gil died and became zombies. Shiki never got to defeat Roger and disappeared. Stussy and Gloriosa lost Whitebeard and Roger (and their beauty)
Kaido, Big Mom, Whitebeard and Ochoku stayed loyal, survived Roger's era and got to live a decent pirate life
That's my guess as well, especially considering Rocks' "I'll be back," line to IMU. He's more into the inherited will stuff: he knows that if he fails, his desire to see the world toppled (which was Davy Jones' desire as well?) will simply find another conduit to occur further down the line. IMU can delay it all he wants, but it will happen: MJ & the WG will fall.
Whereas BB strikes me as self-important, the kind to think only he can pull this off, only he has the right to do it, so he can't die--and when death will come knocking? BB will not accept it, so he'll go on trashing and screaming, the ultimate humiliating death in the OP universe.
Yes. Oda may have fucked up in his recent portrayal of Roger, but the two are still opposites sides of what a pirate can be: Roger sails the seas for adventures, treasure, and idols (sigh), whereas Rocks barges into places, bringing havoc and destruction, and having no qualms with killing people if it means attaining his goal--which is just power; absolute power.
It's hardly the same.
This wasn't a fight for BB. He went to MF to brag to his adoptive father's face, and WB not only wouldn't have any of it, but was serious about teaching BB a lesson. The moment WB locked in
and decided to quake BB in the face, BB became terrified for his life and started to beg WB to stop. I think BB sees himself as to important to die, so he'd never smile when the moment comes, whereas Luffy (as shown at Loguetown), Oden, and other Ds simply accept that c'est la vie, and go on without regrets.
I don't think anyone stayed loyal to Rocks, and in the end nobody lived a decent life either. Kaido was defeated without ever making a change, otherside of keeping Wano stagnant. WB lost all of his sons. BM became a tyrant to her sons. Ochoku was offscreened by Rocks' own son.
It'd be interesting if Rocks indeed "cursed" his own crew because they betrayed him when it mattered most.
Whereas BB strikes me as self-important, the kind to think only he can pull this off, only he has the right to do it, so he can't die--and when death will come knocking? BB will not accept it, so he'll go on trashing and screaming, the ultimate humiliating death in the OP universe.
Yes. Oda may have fucked up in his recent portrayal of Roger, but the two are still opposites sides of what a pirate can be: Roger sails the seas for adventures, treasure, and idols (sigh), whereas Rocks barges into places, bringing havoc and destruction, and having no qualms with killing people if it means attaining his goal--which is just power; absolute power.
Because there was no danger for Teach there, he wasn't even close to die. Luffy also reacted same way in many moments, doesn't mean he wasn't going to smile if he died.
This wasn't a fight for BB. He went to MF to brag to his adoptive father's face, and WB not only wouldn't have any of it, but was serious about teaching BB a lesson. The moment WB locked in
and decided to quake BB in the face, BB became terrified for his life and started to beg WB to stop. I think BB sees himself as to important to die, so he'd never smile when the moment comes, whereas Luffy (as shown at Loguetown), Oden, and other Ds simply accept that c'est la vie, and go on without regrets.
I don't think anyone stayed loyal to Rocks, and in the end nobody lived a decent life either. Kaido was defeated without ever making a change, otherside of keeping Wano stagnant. WB lost all of his sons. BM became a tyrant to her sons. Ochoku was offscreened by Rocks' own son.
It'd be interesting if Rocks indeed "cursed" his own crew because they betrayed him when it mattered most.
That's my guess as well, especially considering Rocks' "I'll be back," line to IMU. He's more into the inherited will stuff: he knows that if he fails, his desire to see the world toppled (which was Davy Jones' desire as well?) will simply find another conduit to occur further down the line. IMU can delay it all he wants, but it will happen: MJ & the WG will fall.
Whereas BB strikes me as self-important, the kind to think only he can pull this off, only he has the right to do it, so he can't die--and when death will come knocking? BB will not accept it, so he'll go on trashing and screaming, the ultimate humiliating death in the OP universe.
Yes. Oda may have fucked up in his recent portrayal of Roger, but the two are still opposites sides of what a pirate can be: Roger sails the seas for adventures, treasure, and idols (sigh), whereas Rocks barges into places, bringing havoc and destruction, and having no qualms with killing people if it means attaining his goal--which is just power; absolute power.
It's hardly the same.
This wasn't a fight for BB. He went to MF to brag to his adoptive father's face, and WB not only wouldn't have any of it, but was serious about teaching BB a lesson. The moment WB locked in
and decided to quake BB in the face, BB became terrified for his life and started to beg WB to stop. I think BB sees himself as to important to die, so he'd never smile when the moment comes, whereas Luffy (as shown at Loguetown), Oden, and other Ds simply accept that c'est la vie, and go on without regrets.
I don't think anyone stayed loyal to Rocks, and in the end nobody lived a decent life either. Kaido was defeated without ever making a change, otherside of keeping Wano stagnant. WB lost all of his sons. BM became a tyrant to her sons. Ochoku was offscreened by Rocks' own son.
It'd be interesting if Rocks indeed "cursed" his own crew because they betrayed him when it mattered most.
Whereas BB strikes me as self-important, the kind to think only he can pull this off, only he has the right to do it, so he can't die--and when death will come knocking? BB will not accept it, so he'll go on trashing and screaming, the ultimate humiliating death in the OP universe.
Yes. Oda may have fucked up in his recent portrayal of Roger, but the two are still opposites sides of what a pirate can be: Roger sails the seas for adventures, treasure, and idols (sigh), whereas Rocks barges into places, bringing havoc and destruction, and having no qualms with killing people if it means attaining his goal--which is just power; absolute power.
It's hardly the same.
This wasn't a fight for BB. He went to MF to brag to his adoptive father's face, and WB not only wouldn't have any of it, but was serious about teaching BB a lesson. The moment WB locked in
and decided to quake BB in the face, BB became terrified for his life and started to beg WB to stop. I think BB sees himself as to important to die, so he'd never smile when the moment comes, whereas Luffy (as shown at Loguetown), Oden, and other Ds simply accept that c'est la vie, and go on without regrets.
I don't think anyone stayed loyal to Rocks, and in the end nobody lived a decent life either. Kaido was defeated without ever making a change, otherside of keeping Wano stagnant. WB lost all of his sons. BM became a tyrant to her sons. Ochoku was offscreened by Rocks' own son.
It'd be interesting if Rocks indeed "cursed" his own crew because they betrayed him when it mattered most.
In my opinion not if he dies as a villain, it's not about accepting death, it's about being free, and villains like Xebec and Blackbeard aren't free but follow the values imposed on the world by Imu and think those are true, whereas people like Luffy don't
Plus Roger told Rayleigh he won't die, and Nika is pretty much almost a copy paste of Jesus Christ so far, so who knows what they found out on Laughtale, especially since we know there is an afterlife
That's why I hope Blackbeard is redeemed, because otherwise what would his story be? An orphan who followed the values of the actual devil and backstabbed his family and formed a crew of villains and did a lot of evil and then rejected the one chance he could get in the future at being redeemed? I don't want that
Like Roger's crew found out the truth about the world, he planned to go to be executed, said he won't die, Rayleigh didn't contradict him, and he died laughing, while the truth about the world is called the treasure of an in-universe deity who is based on a real life deity whose main characteristic is rising from the dead and who called himself "the resurrection"
Plus Roger told Rayleigh he won't die, and Nika is pretty much almost a copy paste of Jesus Christ so far, so who knows what they found out on Laughtale, especially since we know there is an afterlife
That's why I hope Blackbeard is redeemed, because otherwise what would his story be? An orphan who followed the values of the actual devil and backstabbed his family and formed a crew of villains and did a lot of evil and then rejected the one chance he could get in the future at being redeemed? I don't want that
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Like Roger's crew found out the truth about the world, he planned to go to be executed, said he won't die, Rayleigh didn't contradict him, and he died laughing, while the truth about the world is called the treasure of an in-universe deity who is based on a real life deity whose main characteristic is rising from the dead and who called himself "the resurrection"
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