Speculations Will Zoro unleash a new Ashura technique vs. King?

#41
He has yet to unleash his heavy hitters even in Base, so far he didn't try so hard. It would be cool if those proved enough to defeat King. It would testify Zoro's might if anything.
Expect most attacks to be off paneled as we have only seen the aftermath of Zoro cutting King’s horn which begs the question what attack did he use? So in the end we ain’t seeing the whole fight.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#42
Expect most attacks to be off paneled as we have only seen the aftermath of Zoro cutting King’s horn which begs the question what attack did he use? So in the end we ain’t seeing the whole fight.
It seems like Oda didn't offpanel the fight so far. If not he would almost certainly show Zoro's named attacks considering he displayed the random ones. It would be curious to see which attacks he would be using though. 🤔
 
#43
He has yet to unleash his heavy hitters even in Base, so far he didn't try so hard. It would be cool if those proved enough to defeat King. It would testify Zoro's might if anything.
I am leaning towards the outcome that Zoro will need to extreme diff King.
IMO a 100% healthy Zoro can high diff King, but because of the mink medicine and how it might deteriorate during the battle, Zoro will likely suffer unnecessary pain and damages.

The idea that Zoro hasn't used his most powerful attacks is valid, but also keep in mind that neither has King.
 
#44
- Zoro will need the high-tier santoryu attack, think Tatsumaki (dragon-twister) or Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai (the upgraded version of Sanzen Sekai, which defeated pica).
Kokujo O Tatsumaki isn't a "high tier" Santoryu attack.
What made that attack useful against Kaido was the fact that Zoro unleashed Enma.
Something like Iai Shi Shishi Sonson or Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai should be a lot stronger if he unleashes Enma with it.
- Personally, I don't see this happening, as King was capable of blocking/clashing with ultra-tiger hunt, as if it was just a normal sword attack.
Ultra Tiger Hunt is not a strong move at all.
King dealing with it isn't impressive.
See my explanation.
2) Ashura (9-sword style) - Jest of the dead (亡者戯)
- This is the new move that scarred Kaido, which Kaido complimented by saying you have done more than enough.
- Personally I think this move can definitely KO King, but I have a feeling that Zoro won't be using this technique. The reason is because I think this is a special ashura move used by zoro when he is very closed to dying. 亡者戯 can be trasnlated as Jest of the dead, or dead man's game. As its name implies, the user is probably in a near-death condition to use it. Can King push zoro to near death condition? Possibly? But to the condition of 30 broken bones by hakai? Probably not.
Moja no Tawamure isn't a regular Asura move, it's an Asura Bakkei move, meaning "Asura sword draw".
It's the same idea as Iai Shishi Sonson "Sword Draw Lion's song" and also the stronger version Iai Shi Shishi SonSon "Sword Draw Death Lions' song".
So the move that Zoro used to scar Kaido is likely stronger than normal Asura moves.
3) Ashura (9-sword style) - a new technique
- On one hand, Santoryu doesn't seem to be enough to take down King, on other hand Jest of the dead seems to be a move only used in near-death situation by Zoro. This leads me to think that in order to defeat King, Zoro will have to unleash a new Ashura technique. This attack is at least as strong as 亡者戯 (jest of the dead), and can possibly be a bit stronger.
If Zoro uses a new Asura move, it probably will be a regular Asura move, and it would likely be weaker than Asura Bakkei.

Overall, I think we have to wait and see how King fares against Zoro once Zoro has started to unleash Enma.
And what I mean by unleashing Enma is:
This fire aura is what Enma looks like when Zoro is unleashing his Haki through it. Zoro got Kaido's attention each time he did this with Enma.

However, against King, he still hasn't decided to unleash Enma.
He's still only using the minimum amount of Haki needed to coat the blade in black.
So I say we should wait and see how King fares with Zoro unleashing Enma.
 
#45
Zoro needs to learn how to use Ashura-like attacks (i mean like CoC coated attacks) through his i-ni and santoryu attacks.

Nitoryu is usually used for aoe attacks while his trully powerful ones are Itoryu and Santoryu attacks.

But i believe that Oda will make Zoro understand in this fight that the Sandai Kitetsu is the only sword that holds him behind. He has to trade it for the Nidai Kitetsu and i am waiting a plot to happen midfight.

Imagine if Zoro used Ashura only with Enma, like Ashura Santoryu inflicted with the most devestating CoC coated attack. ;P
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#46
I am leaning towards the outcome that Zoro will need to extreme diff King.
IMO a 100% healthy Zoro can high diff King, but because of the mink medicine and how it might deteriorate during the battle, Zoro will likely suffer unnecessary pain and damages.

The idea that Zoro hasn't used his most powerful attacks is valid, but also keep in mind that neither has King.
I think the notion King went Hybrid and is fighting a Base Zoro is very telling probably. I seriously doubt he will need more than mid or high difficulty to defeat King at this stage. Perhaps this could become very similar to the long gone Kaku scenario.
 
#47
I think the notion King went Hybrid and is fighting a Base Zoro is very telling probably. I seriously doubt he will need more than mid or high difficulty to defeat King at this stage. Perhaps this could become very similar to the long gone Kaku scenario.
1) So far hybrid king is out-powering zoro. I don't think this is debatable at all.
2) What exactly is "base zoro"? I don't think this is a thing. He already worn his bandana and used santoyru. If this is base zoro, then i don't know what is serious zoro.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#48
1) So far hybrid king is out-powering zoro. I don't think this is debatable at all.
2) What exactly is "base zoro"? I don't think this is a thing. He already worn his bandana and used santoyru. If this is base zoro, then i don't know what is serious zoro.
Base Zoro aka Non Asura.

In general per Base Luffy it is intended either No Gears or G2/G3 instead.

I don't think the Bandana raises his power level, but it raises his level of focus nonetheless.
 
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