Chapter Discussion With introduction of Saturn's form, is one piece turning into good vs evil?

[JackThaConflagration]

One piece has always been unique in that it's morally grey. I mean we have thuggish pirates ruining the average people's lives.

The main crew are a bunch of vigilantes who disregard the law and order, but often do good. Still they are pirates.

We have Marines that are devoted to justice and good, in addition to corrupt Marines, etc..

For most of the series, the gorosei arent portrayed as evil beings. They are your typical world leaders, very ruthless and pragmatic. basically taking the logical steps to maintain order.

However, with this chapter introducing Saturn as some sort of satanic spawn, it seems like we're heading towards a different direction of good vs evil. I don't know if I like this directions, since that's basically what every other shounen series devolves into.

 

[Thunderbolt]

The manga has always been good vs evil

Good pirates vs Evil Pirates

Good Marines vs Ohara

Good Shogun Orochi vs Evil Prostitute Hiyori and racist Wano

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

It's been pretty clear for decades that the upper echelon of the World Government is incredibly corrupt, hypocritical, and tyrannical. Even if Imu was never introduced and the Gorosei were the true leaders, they would still be directly responsible for countless atrocities.

 

[Zenos7]

Celestial dragons were always evil?!

 

[RYNO]

Thats what was the main point of straw hats vs main villains of alot arcs was are about like Enel,doffy,moria,big mom,kaido.

 

[SmokedOut]

This scene with Brook hits differently after the most recent chapter. There is definitely evil (satan) in the OP world, and Oda has just barely scratched the surface of it @JackThaConflagration

 

[ChefboiiFuego]

This scene with Brook hits differently after the most recent chapter. There is definitely evil (satan) in the OP world, and Oda has just barely scratched the surface of it @JackThaConflagration

Oh shiiittt nice catch

 

[SmokedOut]

Oh shiiittt nice catch

 

[Yoho]

Celestial dragons were always evil?!

I wouldn't say they're evil just indoctrinated, raised to be that way and too ignorant and stupid to know any better. Mjosgard Is an example of how they can change when faced with the truth of the world

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

This scene with Brook hits differently after the most recent chapter. There is definitely evil (satan) in the OP world, and Oda has just barely scratched the surface of it @JackThaConflagration

FORESHADOWINGFORESHADOWINGFORESHADOWING

 

[BOCCHI]

It was always about good and evil. Not necessarily always focusing on it, but yeah.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

There's no such thing as "Good" or "Evil".

Whoever wins will become Justice. That's all.

 

[Polishit]

no, the good guys are pirate with a devil fruit

 

[vikas]

This scene with Brook hits differently after the most recent chapter. There is definitely evil (satan) in the OP world, and Oda has just barely scratched the surface of it @JackThaConflagration

Forget about it.. He just is referencing them... Like the three gods in FI (Poseidon, Uranus, Ploton)

 

[Date]

??????

If someone ever thinked that the WG was in any way not totally evil this person have serious moral problems lol

 

[JackThaConflagration]

Celestial dragons were always evil?!

The celestial dragons with bubbles arent evil, but rather extremely ignorant, selfish and spoiled. Think of real world dumb rich kids.

The gorosei and competent celestial dragons (like shanks) are pragmatic. Not really evil. If you think what they have done is evil, you are very ignorant of how the real world works. You don't keep a centralized state together by being nice and giving everyone what they want.