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Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Okay, so, I have a few doubts here. [Containment] was used last day phase to revive Kagura. According to Yo tan’s role, once he uses it, his role will be killed and Janitored and that didn’t happen here since we see his full role.

So either some kind of mechanic prevented it, or his role was healed or whatever. Point is if his role hadn’t been “killed” or “janitored”, whatever that means in this regard, then I believe his role still worked. So he was a Miller who scanned guilty and was on Ultra’s wagon. So most probably he was one of the guilty scanners on the wagon?

[Passive - Unfortunate Past] Rhonin was a promising young mage of the Kirin Tor until a disastrous mission involving the reckless use of magic nearly cost him everything. Many, including Rhonin himself, have not completely forgiven him for the incident, as such he scans guilty to alignment investigations.

This could be true here tbh.
Btw is no one going to give their thoughts on this? Maybe one of the guilty players that Worst mentioned was Yo tan? Dude was literally a Miller and said he lost his role, which I think could be because of [Containment], but he still flipped with his role here.
 
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Sallucion

I get what you're saying, just having a hard time reconciling the role of Jailer/Warden with killing yourself
Lmao. I wasnt caught up and just spot this after my post before.

With Mimiron's death comes a blessing ! He seems to have dropped a mount!




First 10 people who quote this post will face off against each other in an RPS tournament, the winner will win this:

Mimiron's Head [Legendary] Increases the amount of loot you can discover for a night.


Here you go already.
 
Odd, his statement about Mango being a “God Gamer” doesn’t mean much and I have no idea why you’re taking the word of a flipped scum here so seriously. I still don’t think “God Gamer” refers to any sort of teammate equity that you think the phrase meant. I googled God Gamer and all it means is someone who’s great at beating games in high difficulty mode.
You actually googled god gamer, that's hilarious
 
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Btw is no one going to give their thoughts on this? Maybe one of the guilty players that Worst mentioned was Yo tan? Dude was literally a Miller and said he lost his role, which I think could be because of [Containment], but he still flipped with his role here.
Didnt Yo tan already lose his role by the time Worst got his results? If yes, he shouldnt count as guilty, right?
 
You understood the first part right. That’s why I said that early town reads are usually more Town indicative since scum can feign scum hunting by actually hunting scum the enemy factions. So I don’t think scum would really bother giving town reads first due to the possibility of the player being linked to another scum faction.

The second part you misunderstood slightly. I said, that according to you scum killing off their town reads, in this case Mango, while Mango also being suspected by a few players last day phase doesn’t make sense. Since the fact that he was suspected gives scum incentive to keep him around. So I disagree with the statement that scum would kill off their town reads, and in this case, with Mango.

So the conclusion here is that scum who were scum reading Mango have as much incentive to kill Mango here as well. So, really, a player town reading mango doesn’t make them scum just because Of that.
Scum also gives town reads too. Town doesn't know each other at start of day and since you are talking about a multiball game then there will be more scum in the setup and there's always going to be paranoia. A game that is not multiball there will not be many scum.

Scum who were scum reading Mango on day 1 why do you think scum would also have incentive to kill Mango at night when the game always starts out with more town in the beginning? I'm used to seeing scum killing off town first and then once when alot of town die scum start attacking each other.
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
You actually googled god gamer, that's hilarious
Yes, now I know it refers to players to are just in a different league.

Meanwhile I’m here getting annoyed cause I’m losing to some robot in Horizon on normal difficulty.

Didnt Yo tan already lose his role by the time Worst got his results? If yes, he shouldnt count as guilty, right?
Exactly what I thought. So I think that’s because of him using [Containment] and his role was “killed”. But then the ability says that he should be janitored, but he wasn’t and still flipped with a role.

So I’m having second doubts on the 4 players we are questioning.
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Scum also gives town reads too. Town doesn't know each other at start of day and since you are talking about a multiball game then there will be more scum in the setup and there's always going to be paranoia. A game that is not multiball there will not be many scum.

Scum who were scum reading Mango on day 1 why do you think scum would also have incentive to kill Mango at night when the game always starts out with more town in the beginning? I'm used to seeing scum killing off town first and then once when alot of town die scum start attacking each other.
More scum in the game as in numbers? I don’t think so. It will be proportional to a specific fraction of the total player base. So being in a multiball doesn’t mean there’ll be more scum as it’s more player number dependent.

But multiball, by virtue, obligates scum to scum hunt more than Town read to prolong their longevity by hunting enemy factions was my reasoning. So early town reads being town indicative, was due to the fact that objectively tying yourself to a player not from your faction, when he could belong to an enemy faction by town reading him, gets you fucked down the line if that player flips scum. This is why I believe that scum would rather scum read more than Town read early on. Sure they can town read, but logically, I think scum reading ensures better promises further down the game in a multiball.

Your second point tells me that you think Scum wouldn’t kill off Mango if he was scum/suspicious which is what I’m saying. Since a few players were suspicious of mango, scum wouldn’t gain much from killing him.
 

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This reads to me like I caught you in a lie and you're panicking to explain yourself. The tone is very rambly and most of the information seems to be coming out of nowhere. Maybe I'm just having a hard time reading you fairly today.
I am unreadable



But not my panic meta is A LOOOT different from that xD

I'm just bad at reading people :)
 
I didn’t really see her vote on you that way. Honestly it looks like you’re making a big deal out of it. Also, many have suspected you for being low key, and really not contributing to the game much - Broki, Light, myself, Ratchet, Ekko, Yo tan, Worst and more.

Also, in 300+ pages, and I know you said you’re missing like 40 pages, Nana seems like a very low key player you’re going after. i haven’t seen you give you’re reads on Adam, Blue (correct me if I missed this, please.), Nick, Odd is null apparently, Soul and more.

Also, I saw you scum read Light, could you expand more on it? I have him as a town lean actually.
I don't understand why am I being suspected for not contributing when I have been contributing. If it's because I'm not active then maybe I should sub out because it's really hard for me to be active since real life gets in the way. The players you mentioned here this is not a confident read on Adam and I have him as town, Blue scum, Nick scum, odd null, Soul null.

On day 1 I thought there was a counter claim between Adam and Ultra. Blue and Nick are candidates being scum for being on the Ultra wagon and he said there were 4 guilty and I recently heard Blue tanked a super kill. Soulkiller I haven't seen anything scummy from him but he also looks like the type of player who is good playing as scum.
 
There are three scum factions that we know of this game - Red, Blue, Purple.

He explicitly linked Mango to the purple faction just because JDB came out with the info that The Scourge (red faction) tried killing Mango when he could be blue as well.

So unless you know he’s not in Blue, then I see no reason why Odd would say that. So it’s TMI to me.


You’re basing this off of a hypothesis that’s non-verifiable. Also whether you’re suspecting Mango day 1 or not as scum doesn’t always invalidate him as a kill choice.

My point is that I don’t expect scum players to just kill off their Town reads, if that town read is suspected by a few others. In this case having that player around would be beneficial actually. This also adds to my point I mentioned previously that town reading a player just because he isn’t on your faction like you said, doesn’t make him Town ‘cause he could still belong to an enemy faction.

So your argument really doesn’t work in Case of a multiball.
I think Mango is a purple because

- Conqs flip
- Hes playing like a purple

I don't understand how else last nights events work out unless jdb is lying, which I don't think he is
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
I don't understand why am I being suspected for not contributing when I have been contributing. If it's because I'm not active then maybe I should sub out because it's really hard for me to be active since real life gets in the way. The players you mentioned here this is not a confident read on Adam and I have him as town, Blue scum, Nick scum, odd null, Soul null.

On day 1 I thought there was a counter claim between Adam and Ultra. Blue and Nick are candidates being scum for being on the Ultra wagon and he said there were 4 guilty and I recently heard Blue tanked a super kill. Soulkiller I haven't seen anything scummy from him but he also looks like the type of player who is good playing as scum.
I hope you don’t sub out since I know real life gets in the way and you’re fun to play with. But the suspicion on you isn’t entirely because of being inactive as opposed to you not really contributing much as I said.

You’ve given your thoughts on players and I found them to be superficial at best. It doesn’t go in depth and it seemed like you were reluctant to give your thoughts on few topics like when I asked you about Mango - Odd and you described the situation rather than your read on the players first.

You also seemed to misread rather obvious statements and suspect players for it like with Broki when she told you why she Town leaned Cal and then took it back. Or with Light recently as well. These are traits I really don’t associate with your town play and it looks like you’re forcing contradictions when there aren’t any.
 
Also wrt to the magni claim, his diamonding is after the time period of this game. He's also caught in a lie - he said he was rolecrushed so how has he reflected a kill?

No idea why attention is moving away, scum will assuredly have fake claims. If not, we can just mass claim now and solve the game immediately
 
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Also wrt to the magni claim, his diamonding is after the time period of this game. He's also caught in a lie - he said he was rolecrushed so how has he reflected a kill?

No idea why attention is moving away, scum will assuredly have fake claims. If not, we can just mass claim now and solve the game immediately
Im with you on this. I don't think GoM is Magni.
 
Thats the only thing bugging me, but I don't think we should be too paranoid to lynch purple.
It won't make him stronger. Atleast not in the expac, it only makes the 'players' stronger. xD
I think we should shoot these clowns then instead of lynching them, there was likely a reason why the conq-robot could give bulletproof to one of his little circus ppl unless im overthinking on that part.

 
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