General & Others Worlds strongest swordsmen is a nonsense worthless title.

#84
A swordsman with a fruit is no longer a swordsman ?
Now it gets tricky. Is WB a swordsman since he is carrying a blade? Can BM or Fujitora be considered swordsman? Mihawk is the WSS and Zoro is running up for the title, both of them are pure swordsman, actually, at least imo, if you want to be the WSS you have to do it with your sword skills alone (haki included of course), but if you start to use df then that is no longer swordmanship. Or at least you can not get the title like that.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#86
Now it gets tricky. Is WB a swordsman since he is carrying a blade? Can BM or Fujitora be considered swordsman? Mihawk is the WSS and Zoro is running up for the title, both of them are pure swordsman, actually, at least imo, if you want to be the WSS you have to do it with your sword skills alone (haki included of course), but if you start to use df then that is no longer swordmanship. Or at least you can not get the title like that.
No it's not tricky.

Wbs title was strongest man
He is strongest man
Hes not the most skillful man or the greatest man

Mihawks is wss
He is strongest swordsman
So just like wb is the strongest of all men regardless of if they have a fruit
Same applies to mihawk


No why would it all blades are not swords
Wb doesn't have a sword.


Yes fuji and meme are swordsmen they fight with swords
 
#88
No it's not tricky.

Wbs title was strongest man
He is strongest man
Hes not the most skillful man or the greatest man

Mihawks is wss
He is strongest swordsman
So just like wb is the strongest of all men regardless of if they have a fruit
Same applies to mihawk


No why would it all blades are not swords
Wb doesn't have a sword.


Yes fuji and meme are swordsmen they fight with swords
WB's title is absolute, he is the strongest man so df or not you are below him and there are no ifs.

The WSS title is regarding to swordsman, but can we really say BM is a swordsman just because she a living sword? Also the WSS can not put Mihawk above people like Fuji or BM by default, imo he will be stronger than them but not because of that title. Also since Shanks is using a sword as well does this mean that Mihawk is stronger than an all out Shanks? Nope, they should be close rivals, pribably it will be an extreme fight like Akainu vs Aokiji, but you can bet that if there has to be a winner Oda will reward the inspiring figure of Luffy over the one of Zoro.
 

Shisui

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#89
Oldbeard stomps Midhawk let alone Primebeard. WSM supersedes WSS no matter how you look at it. Yes, WB has a supreme blade just like Hawkeye but guess what, Hawkeye never once challenged him cos he knows what time it is. The only time he tried to was in MF when he knew he had the support of the Marines and Warlords. For a man who likes to travel around, how come this man has never cross paths with WB?
The only noteworthy opponent Hawkeye has ever faced is a pre yonko Shanks. This man had a chance to show out against his old rival in mf but guess what, he ran talking about I didn't sign up for this blah blah blah, I can't fight a one armed man. Guess what, he is gna get put in a spliff by a one eyed 21yo.
Can anyone really envision Vista giving any type of WB a tough time???? Yup, I didn't think so.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#91
WB's title is absolute, he is the strongest man so df or not you are below him and there are no ifs.

The WSS title is regarding to swordsman, but can we really say BM is a swordsman just because she a living sword? Also the WSS can not put Mihawk above people like Fuji or BM by default, imo he will be stronger than them but not because of that title. Also since Shanks is using a sword as well does this mean that Mihawk is stronger than an all out Shanks? Nope, they should be close rivals, pribably it will be an extreme fight like Akainu vs Aokiji, but you can bet that if there has to be a winner Oda will reward the inspiring figure of Luffy over the one of Zoro.
What the fuck are you talking about
What else does shanks have lmfao
Shanks is a swordsman
That's it
Fujitora is a swordsman
That's it
Meme is a swordsman That's it.

Extra abilities don't stop you being a swordsman if you fight with a sword
 
#92
He fought zoro with a knife. It wasn't until he saw Zoros courage he used Yoru.

1. Also. If Mihawk is strong why does he feel obliged to answer the WGs call and fignt WB? Why does the WG gather 100k marines and admirals and warlords to fight WB and still claim they can lose? WB is tiers above Mihawk

2. Who said Zoro is going to have an extremely hard fight with Mihawk?

3. WG: sends fodder after Mihawk to capture him.
1. Mihawk was interested in Whitebeard. He wanted to test his strength against WB. Once he realized Luffy had the same ability as WB in gathering allies, he tested his strength against fate.

2. Series end game goal of a Major Character in a 24+ year Shounen, it has to because plot deems it.

3. Correction; they didn't show who is after Mihawk.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#93
He fought zoro with a knife. It wasn't until he saw Zoros courage he used Yoru.

Also. If Mihawk is strong why does he feel obliged to answer the WGs call and fignt WB? Why does the WG gather 100k marines and admirals and warlords to fight WB and still claim they can lose? WB is tiers above Mihawk
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Who said Zoro is going to have an extremely hard fight with Mihawk?
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Huh? We are shown Whitebeard casually beating Ace 100 times and Ace at that point was much stronger than Marineford Luffy. He fought Jinbei for 5 days
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WG: sends fodder after Mihawk to capture him.
WG: hopefully these 100k troops, warlords and admirals dont lose to WB alone
They sent a fodder ship for primebeard in oden flashback lmfao
 
#95
1. Mihawk was interested in Whitebeard. He wanted to test his strength against WB. Once he realized Luffy had the same ability as WB in gathering allies, he tested his strength against fate.

2. Series end game goal of a Major Character in a 24+ year Shounen, it has to because plot deems it.

3. Correction; they didn't show who is after Mihawk.
1. No Mihawk didn't the whole part of gathering allies was after Marco sent Vista after him
2. Or maybe Zoro middifs Mihawk. You don't know.
3. Does it matter? PrimeBeard is arguably stronger than 100k marines, warlords and admirals combined. Roger was his equal. Mihawk is not a top tier.

They sent a fodder ship for primebeard in oden flashback lmfao
Or. That ship just happened to cross Whitebeard while Mihawk they very specifically sent a small force after him
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When did they show who was on the marine ships? Post a panel.
It doesn't matter. They gathered 100k marines, the admirals, and warlords just to potentially lose against Whitebeard
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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#96
2. Or maybe Zoro middifs Mihawk. You don't know.
Yes, Current Zoro can totally mid diff his EOS goal

3. Does it matter? PrimeBeard is arguably stronger than 100k marines, warlords and admirals combined. Roger was his equal. Mihawk is not a top tier.
i don't think Primebeard can solo 3 admirals, much less all the marines at MF.

How if Mihawk not a top tier? He's directly confirmed to be stronger than two top tiers by virtue of his title.
 
#98
Yes, Current Zoro can totally mid diff his EOS goal



i don't think Primebeard can solo 3 admirals, much less all the marines at MF.

How if Mihawk not a top tier? He's directly confirmed to be stronger than two top tiers by virtue of his title.
Sengoku disagrees. That's headcanon. The inital line that numbers dont matter because of whitebeards ability and they could lose should straight up tell you Whitebeard can potentially solo marineford.

Why are you comparing one person to an entire Yonko crew and all their allies?

Obviously Mihawk on his own is weaker than the full might of a Yonko crew.
Sengokus rationale for them losing is entirely on Whitebeard. Hell even after Ace was rescued Sengoku was scared Whitebeard could solo marineford at the cost of his life.
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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#99
Sengoku disagrees. That's headcanon.


Sengokus rationale for them losing is entirely on Whitebeard. Hell even after Ace was rescued Sengoku was scared Whitebeard could solo marineford at the cost of his life.
bro Whitebeard could have easily destroyed MF from a distance with quake attacks lol

and how is Mihawk not a top tier :giogio:
 
Sengokus rationale for them losing is entirely on Whitebeard. Hell even after Ace was rescued Sengoku was scared Whitebeard could solo marineford at the cost of his life.
Whitebeard is not a swordsman lol. So I don’t understand your obsession with comparing Mihawk and Whitebeard. It doesn’t matter if Whitebeard is stronger than him.

Also you straight up lied when you said fodder were sent after Mihawk, you have no idea if Admirals were sent or not.

Anyways this discussion is a waste of time because you’re very biased.
 
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