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[Roo]

No where there does he say he wasn't snuck.

“ it is a shame for a warrior to be defeated in combat and be left alive…”

He literally tried to face off against Law and got chopped up or else he would be bitching about cutting his back

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He wasn’t. Law himself knew he’d never be able to beat Doflamingo in a fight.

Doffy didn’t even need awakening to beat him nor Kinemon.

Well, every time he fought Law, he had some type of advantage.
When they fought on Green Bit, he had an Admiral aiding him.
When they fought on the bridge, Law had already been using his powers frequently beforehand, and Doffy was also trying to get under Law's skin (as Law himself admitted afterwards).
When they fought on the roof in Dressrosa, Doffy had Trebol, parasited Bellamy, and a black knight (or what ever the string clone is named) helping him out. Among other things, like Law using a massive room and what not.
I do believe Doffy would win in a clean 1v1, but it wouldn't be below a high diff, that's for sure.

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[HA001]

“ it is a shame for a warrior to be defeated in combat and be left alive…”

He literally tried to face off against Law and got chopped up or else he would be bitching about cutting his back

Unguarded. Kinemon has superior haki.

 

[kekaro]

Is that the reason why the Zoro fandom comes up with the most absymal takes all the time?

How do Paulie's ropes work?

 

[Roo]

I am retarded. Kinemon has superior haki.

Agreed

 

[HA001]

Agreed

Let law coat his sword in haki then come back to me.

 

[Roo]

Let law coat his sword in haki then come back to me.

Kinemon didn’t even need to coat his sword to pierce Kaido

 

[kekaro]

Kinemon didn’t even need to coat his sword to pierce Kaido

He was tapping into odens haki

 

[Sir Yasheen]

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None of this changes the mass difference in power. Law straight up knew he had no chance against him and that was why he was going to try and pit him against Kaido.

Law didn’t lose because Doffy “got in his head” Doffy won because he was vastly superior in all stats against law. Hand to hand, speed, durability, endurance, df mastery, law didn’t have a single advantage as such Law got low diffed each time.

 

[ZenZu]

Of course it can. It happened with croc.

No it didn't. Crocodile's placement wasn't retconned in the same saga, nor was his placement worldwide ever retconned. His strength was retconned to match his placement. This is actually even more solid proof how Kinemon << Law is established, and would never be retconned. Handing out feats as they come for Oda is no biggie, it's pecking order which is much harder to reestablish once already established.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

None of this changes the mass difference in power. Law straight up knew he had no chance against him and that was why he was going to try and pit him against Kaido.

Law didn’t lose because Doffy “got in his head” Doffy won because he was vastly superior in all stats against law. Hand to hand, speed, durability, endurance, df mastery, law didn’t have a single advantage as such Law got low diffed each time.

Hand to hand - Yes
Speed - No
Durability - No (come on man, we have a panel of Law cutting through his Armament while Doffy can't cut through Law's)
Endurance - Sort of
Df mastery - Yes

 

[GeneralP123]

Kinemon didn’t even need to coat his sword to pierce Kaido

Didn't know this take existed, unfortunately now I know.

 

[HA001]

No it didn't. Crocodile's placement wasn't retconned in the same saga, nor was his placement worldwide ever retconned. His strength was retconned to match his placement. This is actually even more solid proof how Kinemon << Law is established, and would never be retconned.

This is just lies
Croc lost to non gears luffy then started clashing with doffy mihawk ripped akainu in half etc and has a 1.9 bil bounty.

 

[HA001]

Kinemon didn’t even need to coat his sword to pierce Kaido

Coated in ryou.

 

[Roo]

He was tapping into odens haki

Emma haki merchants don’t want to hear this

 

[kekaro]

You guys need to accept the fact that oda idol is Akira toriyama and his favorite manga is Dragonball before the series end man

Coping against this is a losing fight

This shit that power creep and retcons being a agenda thing is a boogie man, it's looking at the author

 

[ZenZu]

This is just lies
Croc lost to non gears luffy then started clashing with doffy mihawk ripped akainu in half etc and has a 1.9 bil bounty.

Yea like I said, his feats were retconned, not his status. He was always supposed to be that strong in the bigger picture, he just showed up too early so his feats became massively outdated. Kinemon was always supposed to be below Law and far below Doflamingo, that is not changing. It's hilarious to suggest it changed in the same saga.

 

[Roo]

Coated in ryou.

Law can cut a steel sword by your headcanon hes tapping into adCoA at all times

 

[HA001]

Yea like I said, his feats were retconned, not his status. He was always supposed to be that strong in the bigger picture, he just showed up too early so his feats became massively outdated. Kinemon was always supposed to be below Law and far below Doflamingo, that is not changing. It's hilarious to suggest it changed in the same saga.

Except he wasn't.

The strongest scabbards are factually far above doffy
And kinemon matched them.

 

[ZenZu]

Except he wasn't.

The strongest scabbards are factually far above doffy
And kinemon matched them.

Which just makes them weaker than Doflamingo. Doflamingo >> Kinemon is a hard canon fact.