Speculations Would Black Blades' ability be retconned in the near future?

[Kishido]

First Black Blades need to be explained to be retconned...

Again Yoru is the only one and a supreme blade... We know turning it black makes it jump in rank... So what Roger would have managed to turn Ace black or WB his pole?

Would it be even supreme? If yes... Zoro needs one of this blades and make it black to surpass Yoru

 

[L55]

Would it be even supreme? If yes... Zoro needs one of this blades and make it black to surpass Yoru

can t be
since yoru is one of 12 already probably was one of 12 before being black
its gonna happen when all 3 of zoro are black blades >yoru

 

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Of the two BBs we have seen in the series, Yoru & Shusui, the ability explained and promoted by the story is that they are virtually indestructible, but apparently not much else.

However, Gomu-Gomu being retconned recently got me thinking, since this means no ability is above being rewritten in OP, does this mean we will see Black Blades being retconned into having their own power? Like cutting something metaphysical or abstract (like a memory or a future)? Or sending out haki beam slashes?

What do you think?

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[Afroking]

Not really retcon since Oda mentioned they have multiple ones yet showed nothing outside of its hardness.

 

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Of the two BBs we have seen in the series, Yoru & Shusui, the ability explained and promoted by the story is that they are virtually indestructible, but apparently not much else.

However, Gomu-Gomu being retconned recently got me thinking, since this means no ability is above being rewritten in OP, does this mean we will see Black Blades being retconned into having their own power? Like cutting something metaphysical or abstract (like a memory or a future)? Or sending out haki beam slashes?

What do you think?

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The great thing about a black blade it's not the output, namely the black blade itself

The most important thing is the process that leads to the creation of a Black Blade. Because that process will require either an insane amount of Haki or to use Haki in a extremely unique and dangerous way


However your hypothesis might be correct because we have seen Zoro using Shusui but it was Ryuma who blackened it.
So maybe only Ryuma could have been able to use Shusui at its full potential, not Zoro who was unaware of Shusui's extra powers
As for Mihawk, he simply held back this whole time

 

[roronoa_fan]

Black Blade did not do shit to Jozu and Vista though

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It’s likely done by a sword completely submitting its will to its wielder, as such king of hell mode won’t drain zoro as much and the blade will be hardened due to the resolve to fight with the wielder.

As such the AP will greatly boost in conjunction to helping zoros endurance

 

[Finalbeta]

The black blade itself isn't an extraordinary powerful sword, it's likely extraordinary powerful the man who manages to forge it.

This is why Zoro's power didn't change dramatically once Ryuma bestowed him with Shusui.

 

[Kishido]

can t be
since yoru is one of 12 already probably was one of 12 before being black
its gonna happen when all 3 of zoro are black blades >yoru

You see. We know jack shit if it was one before or not. Enma was said to become one when blackened. Why shouldn't same happen to Yoru... Or Ace?

 

[The White Crane]

Yea I feel like we have to see something else in zoros case his bb was given to him not earned himself. I feel like when you make one yourself you will get something extra with that

It will, Mihawk wasn't trying at all in Marineford, he didn't use haki / named attacks or anything.

and Zoro was using Shusui as a borrowed sword. He wasn't the one that turned Shusui into a black blade. I think the swordsman that turns the blade into a Black Blade will be able to do different things with it.

Interesting. So blackening a blade by oneself and receiving a ready-made black blade from someone else could indeed be different.

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Thanks for the help, mate. :cheers:

 

[Eustass]

Everything seems overpowered until it isn't. Oda can change anything at this point.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oda taught us how the swordsman's haki is by far what's the most important rather than the sword itself :cheers:

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

So far, hardness/indestructibility is one of the special characteristics that we know so far. Then the increased attack power stated by Zoro from Shusui but I don't think that's one of the characteristics imo. In the future, we could see some unique powers from black blades and hopefully each one of them have their own special power and don't let just have all of them with the same type of abilities.

 

[Lhulu]

Personally, I rather the idea of Kokutos being a symbolism for "pinacle of swordsmanship".

However, knowing Oda and the recent events a recton is very possible.

 

[CartoonHeroes]

Whoever awakens the blackblade will get a free sharingan

 

[Finalbeta]

So far, hardness/indestructibility is one of the special characteristics that we know so far. Then the increased attack power stated by Zoro from Shusui but I don't think that's one of the characteristics imo. In the future, we could see some unique powers from black blades and hopefully each one of them have their own special power and don't let just have all of them with the same type of abilities.

Was it stated that black blades cannot be destroyed?

 

[Tai long]

I wouldn't be surprised if oda as no idea for blackblade since he introduced black blades before haki which was also before black haki

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Of the two BBs we have seen in the series, Yoru & Shusui, the ability explained and promoted by the story is that they are virtually indestructible, but apparently not much else.

However, Gomu-Gomu being retconned recently got me thinking, since this means no ability is above being rewritten in OP, does this mean we will see Black Blades being retconned into having their own power? Like cutting something metaphysical or abstract (like a memory or a future)? Or sending out haki beam slashes?

What do you think?

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Abilities only for the one that makes the black blade, for anyone else it's a normal sword.

 

[Chiji_]

I don’t think it’ll be anything more than higher ap, higher durability, bigger flying slashes. Just for a supreme quality bb everything just amplified to an absurd degree. I’m sure for many this is underwhelming but idk what else could be the case

 

[JoNdule]

The big problem with black blades is that we've known them since day one, we've seen how Zoro performed with one, we've seen how Mihawk performed with one and so far they haven't been impressive at all. And this all probably comes from the fact that "black blade" as in permanently black weapon wasn't a proper concept until very recently; in other words, odds are Mihawk's sword was designed as black just for the sake of his theme since black armament wasn't a thing until post-timeskip (we can apply the same to Ryuma, in fact, who also comes from a "darker" design theme) and even in Dressrosa it didn't feel like Mihawk was talking about black blades in an impressive way ("every blade can be a black blade if you apply haki", basically).

When it comes to actual feats, Shusui was indeed hyped by Zoro as having a higher destructive outcome and hardness, but this wasn't something new: Wado Ichimonji was hyped as the only sword to survive the clash with Mihawk, Sandai Kitetsu was very sharp and bloodthirsty (Zoro had problems to subdue it to his own will) and Enma has been consistently emphasized as somehow special (starting by the fact it can suck haki by itself). And regarding Mihawk, he still required the breath of things to slash a weakling like Bonez, something required with any regular blade.

The picture I get from this is quite messy because Oda hasn't really made the black blades any more salient, any more special than regular swords: Mihawk still needs regular swordsman techniques and his Yoru wouldn't break Wado, and Shusui was just one more sword in Zoro's progress (Sandai was hard to master, Shusui was hard to master, Enma was hard to master). Will Oda retcon this to add new abilities? Who knows, he could follow this path but he could also treat it in a more symbolic, philosophical way; show with it that the swordsman fully connected with the blade; or even make it a proof that the swordsman who left his will permanently in his sword achieved with it the pinnacle of the strongest swordsman, which ultimately is about cutting everything but nothing at the same time.

We will see.

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