Speculations You’ve been wrong all along — the one who killed Xebec isn’t who you think it is

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Saturn did

 

[Etzel Andergast]

My only issue with this theory is that it implies too many characters would know about the existence of Imu. If Big Mom knew about Imu, does like, fucking Katakuri and pudding? Probably not, but it opens up the possibility, which is imo an issue

I think they didnt understanding what was happening. They just saw a HK with diabolic powers.

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The world believes Garp killed him because that is the told story, the fact that Roger was involved is hidden. Garp is a part of the Marines and the Marines are a part of the World Government, there is no inconsistency here.

Garp doesn't talk about the God Valley incident because he protected Celestial Dragons and teamed up with Roger... the manga literally tells us this.

Roger and Garp teaming up is not sufficent to Garp be so embarassed about GV incident. There's more than that

 

[SkySanji]

Roger and Garp teaming up is not sufficent to Garp be so embarassed about GV incident. There's more than that

Roger and Garp teaming up and Garp protecting Celestial Dragons who he despises is more than enough for him to not enjoy talking about it.

 

[TheD.]

Roger and Garp teaming up and Garp protecting Celestial Dragons who he despises is more than enough for him to not enjoy talking about it.

Exactly and imo is probably the first time he’s heard about them doing slave hunting,this prob made him traumatized enough to not even want to talk snout it because it’s so horrible.
Garp is still a L for being in the marine imo tho

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Roger and Garp teaming up and Garp protecting Celestial Dragons who he despises is more than enough for him to not enjoy talking about it.

Protect the celestial dragons is not the cause. Because if he protected them, he would recognized in the news as the hero who protected the gods.

 

[SkySanji]

Protect the celestial dragons is not the cause. Because if he protected them, he would recognized in the news as the hero who protected the gods.

Do you even read the manga? Genuine question

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Do you even read the manga? Genuine question

oh lord, doesnt matter that he hates celestial dragon and didnt become admiral to avoid receive orders from celestial dragons. He still would be recognized by everyone as a hero because he protected the people who rules the world. there's no reason to hide that information to the public

 

[StoneFace]

Oda is the master of clues. And this time is no different — Oda tells us through Loki that the one who killed Xebec wasn't Roger, nor Garp. It was the World Government. And no, it wasn't Garling or Saturn who killed Xebec. It was someone else.

Why do you think Garp feels embarrassed about the God Valley incident? Obviously, it's because neither he nor Roger defeated Xebec. It was none other than Imu.

Imu entered the body of the Manmayer's Holy Knight girl, in the same way he entered Gunko's body. Both are Manmayer btw.

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I think that if Imu killed Xebec directly through a host body it would be fine. What I want to know is who is still alive today that knows this information. Dragon and his subordinates, maybe specific holy knights? Who else is old enough to remember or was passed down this information about this event first hand? It has to be a character or group that Oda has shown us for awhile now, otherwise the reveal won't feel as poignant.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

So Whitebeard was bitch made? Interesting interesting.

What's with this low quality bait

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Oda gave up on Shiki

 

[TheD.]

Oda gave up on Shiki

Shiki is the burn scar man

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Shiki is the burn scar man

nah
Lolda hates Shiki since he used him in a movie. More chance of it being Urouge

 

[MonsterKaido]

That is possible but Roger definitely has to be the one who "beat" rocks.

 

[Sparda]

The killer is St. Charlos

 

[Xione]

What's with this low quality bait

So betraying a dude in middle of the war isnt bitch made now?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

So betraying a dude in middle of the war isnt bitch made now?

Rocks is scum, nobody cares if he gets betrayed

 

[Bad English]

Xebec fought Roger, Garp and Imu in the same day LOL

Bro just wanted his treasure back

 

[Konstantis]

Soon we will learn that Imu defeated Xebec, Roger and Garp, but his possesion time limit ended, before he finished those two

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Why do you think Garp feels embarrassed about the God Valley incident? Obviously, it's because neither he nor Roger defeated Xebec. It was none other than Imu.

I don't remember him being embarrassed by it but Oda portrayed how Garp gave 0 fucks to Xebec and only cared about Roger. And most likely no marines knows about Imu otherwise he wouldn't be hiding himself.

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Imu entered the body of the Manmayer's Holy Knight girl, in the same way he entered Gunko's body. Both are Manmayer btw.

But this is very likely though

 

[AL sama]

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