Versus Battle Yuta Okkotsu vs Archer (F/SN)

[Astaro]

Who didn’t see this coming after the latest chapter? For the purpose of this thread, Yuta’s Domain Expansion and Archer’s Reality Marble exist and function within the same space.

Who wins in this battle of weapon spam?

Archer only gets his feats from F/SN and Hollow Ataraxia. No other continuity’s brought up

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Don’t fate characters heavily outscale JJK

 

[Astaro]

Don’t fate characters heavily outscale JJK

Collectively, sure Nasuverse is a much stronger setting but that’s only if you start getting into the really crazy tier and installments.

But the majority of Servants for example can be challenged by JJK sorcerers.

Here are Archer from F/SN’s feats

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/archer-fatestay-night-respect-thread-1890895/

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[Astaro]

What?

 

[archetype_earth]

Who didn’t see this coming after the latest chapter? For the purpose of this thread, Yuta’s Domain Expansion and Archer’s Reality Marble exist and function within the same space.

Who wins in this battle of weapon spam?

Continental level servant vs island level fodder

Archer,no diff

 

[NikaInParis]

These miss match, spite threads never cease to amaze me lmao

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don’t even think you can call this a fight…

 

[Astaro]

Continental level servant vs island level fodder

Archer,no diff

Continental? Name one thing from Archer that’s Continental

Likewise, name anything from JJK that can wipe out an island

 

[archetype_earth]

Continental? Name one thing from Archer that’s Continental

Likewise, name anything from JJK that can wipe out an island

not from archer directly, but servants in general

he next instant... In an attempt to activate his magecraft before Enkidu had the time to
deploy their Noble Phantasm, Thia yelled powerful words.
Hollowed Hearsay/Oblivion turns to festivity
“A Clockwork Abbadon!”
Numerous “moons” with masses ranging from 500 kilos to dozens of tons rained on Enkidu
and Earth much beyond the speed of sound.
Due to a spell to ignore air resistance, the projectiles he continuously fired with the high
speed of a railgun shot would never burn or slow down. It was clear that if they reached the

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surface, they would cause major harm to the land and all the life on it.
At that moment, the energy levels in Enkidu’s body skyrocketed. Thia couldn’t tell where
all this power was coming from but all of the Heroic Spirit’s parameters got a temporary boost.
People, let us bind the gods
“Enuma Elish!”
Enkidu unleashed their Noble Phantasm without a moment’s delay.
The power to turn their Saint Graph into one all-piercing lynchpin weapon by borrowing
power from the planet and Human Order.

1. --If the one from the North Pole had fallen in an urban area... No, this problem would not have humanity’s alone. If that thing had fallen anywhere other than the North Pole, it would have had an irreversible effect on Earth’s rotation, causing...--
2. Fate/Strange Fake: Volume 7, Chapter 22: "The First and Last Breather Day"

Also Nero Chaos, from Tsukihime, who is a DAA (stated to be relative to servants) directly states you would need the power to destroy a continent to harm him

 

[Astaro]

not from archer directly, but servants in general

he next instant... In an attempt to activate his magecraft before Enkidu had the time to
deploy their Noble Phantasm, Thia yelled powerful words.
Hollowed Hearsay/Oblivion turns to festivity
“A Clockwork Abbadon!”
Numerous “moons” with masses ranging from 500 kilos to dozens of tons rained on Enkidu
and Earth much beyond the speed of sound.
Due to a spell to ignore air resistance, the projectiles he continuously fired with the high
speed of a railgun shot would never burn or slow down. It was clear that if they reached the

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73

surface, they would cause major harm to the land and all the life on it.
At that moment, the energy levels in Enkidu’s body skyrocketed. Thia couldn’t tell where
all this power was coming from but all of the Heroic Spirit’s parameters got a temporary boost.
People, let us bind the gods
“Enuma Elish!”
Enkidu unleashed their Noble Phantasm without a moment’s delay.
The power to turn their Saint Graph into one all-piercing lynchpin weapon by borrowing
power from the planet and Human Order.

1. --If the one from the North Pole had fallen in an urban area... No, this problem would not have humanity’s alone. If that thing had fallen anywhere other than the North Pole, it would have had an irreversible effect on Earth’s rotation, causing...--
2. Fate/Strange Fake: Volume 7, Chapter 22: "The First and Last Breather Day"

Also Nero Chaos, from Tsukihime, who is a DAA (stated to be relative to servants) directly states you would need the power to destroy a continent to harm him

Tesla doesn’t ever do anything close to continental so his claim needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

And scaling EMIYA in any way to Enkidu is insane.

Well aware of Nero, when has a Servant killed him though and how? You do realize Nero is hardly the norm right? He’s basically Alucard and his whole schtick is being extremely hard to kill. What it takes to destroy him scales massively above everything else about him

Anyway, this is F/SN Archer, should have clarified better that this is strictly that VN when it comes to feats. Throw in all of Fate with its many works, vast multitude of characters, varying portrayals of Servants in power, and different writers, and we’re just throwing in whatever high end feat some completely unrelated person to Archer did as opposed to his own feats

I’m especially avoiding the absolute scaling nightmare that is F/GO

These miss match, spite threads never cease to amaze me lmao

I don’t even think you can call this a fight…

Ya’ll need to stop bandwagoning and form your own opinions, did you even look at that Archer respect thread I posted?

 

[NikaInParis]

Tesla doesn’t ever do anything close to continental so his claim needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

And scaling EMIYA in any way to Enkidu is insane.

Well aware of Nero, when has a Servant killed him though and how? You do realize Nero is hardly the norm right? He’s basically Alucard and his whole schtick is being extremely hard to kill. What it takes to destroy him scales massively above everything else about him

Anyway, this is F/SN Archer, should have clarified better that this is strictly that VN when it comes to feats. Throw in all of Fate with its many works, vast multitude of characters, varying portrayals of Servants in power, and different writers, and we’re just throwing in whatever high end feat some completely unrelated person to Archer did as opposed to his own feats

I’m especially avoiding the clusterf*ck that is F/GO




Ya’ll need to stop bandwagoning and form your own opinions, did you even look at that Archer respect thread I posted?

You understand that the missmatch is in the favor of the Archer dude?
Like you can't be that far deep into the circlejerk surely?

 

[Astaro]

You understand that the missmatch is in the favor of the Archer dude?
Like you can't be that far deep into the circlejerk surely?

Can you describe the particular circlejerk that I’m apparently a part of?

And also explain how this is a mismatch under these conditions. Specifically what from Archer in the Respect thread I linked makes is so

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Tesla doesn’t ever do anything close to continental so his claim needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

And scaling EMIYA in any way to Enkidu is insane.

Well aware of Nero, when has a Servant killed him though and how? You do realize Nero is hardly the norm right? He’s basically Alucard and his whole schtick is being extremely hard to kill. What it takes to destroy him scales massively above everything else about him

Anyway, this is F/SN Archer, should have clarified better that this is strictly that VN when it comes to feats. Throw in all of Fate with its many works, vast multitude of characters, varying portrayals of Servants in power, and different writers, and we’re just throwing in whatever high end feat some completely unrelated person to Archer did as opposed to his own feats

I’m especially avoiding the clusterf*ck that is F/GO




Ya’ll need to stop bandwagoning and form your own opinions, did you even look at that Archer respect thread I posted?

The mismatch is that Archer would use Yuta as a toy.

 

[NikaInParis]

Can you describe the particular circlejerk that I’m apparently a part of?

And also explain how this is a mismatch under these conditions. Specifically what from Archer in the Respect thread I linked makes is so

They operate at vastly different levels of power

It would be like making a thread where Mr 5 from One Piece fights Toriko from Toriko. Galaxies apart.

The circlejerk is that you constantly use one character that can rip universes apart or some bs like that vs characters that have trouble destroying buildings

 

[Astaro]

They operate at vastly different levels of power

1 verse being stronger than another doesn’t translate to everyone from that verse being stronger than the other.

Unless you’re going to tell me Videl or Mr. Satan from Dragon Ball > anyone in the HST by that logic.

It would be like making a thread where Mr 5 from One Piece fights Toriko from Toriko. Galaxies apart.

The circlejerk is that you constantly use one character that can rip universes apart or some bs like that vs characters that have trouble destroying buildings

Nowhere near the case here. Seriously, if you looked at that respect thread, Archer by his own feats on average outputs between destroying houses and buildings with his projectiles to being up to City level with Broken Phantasms (basically overcharging his projections until they break to raise them up a rank)

In Speed, he’s about Supersonic to Hypersonic (Mach 11 if you scale him to Saber crossing 4 Kilometers in a second, but Saber is bother faster and was using Mana burst to pull that off, so that’s being extremely generous)

It’s with scaling and feats to other Fate installments that you can get more outrageous numbers for Archer but I’ve clearly stated that Archer for here is restricted to the much more grounded original series.

 

[GaRbS]

not from archer directly, but servants in general

he next instant... In an attempt to activate his magecraft before Enkidu had the time to
deploy their Noble Phantasm, Thia yelled powerful words.
Hollowed Hearsay/Oblivion turns to festivity
“A Clockwork Abbadon!”
Numerous “moons” with masses ranging from 500 kilos to dozens of tons rained on Enkidu
and Earth much beyond the speed of sound.
Due to a spell to ignore air resistance, the projectiles he continuously fired with the high
speed of a railgun shot would never burn or slow down. It was clear that if they reached the

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surface, they would cause major harm to the land and all the life on it.
At that moment, the energy levels in Enkidu’s body skyrocketed. Thia couldn’t tell where
all this power was coming from but all of the Heroic Spirit’s parameters got a temporary boost.
People, let us bind the gods
“Enuma Elish!”
Enkidu unleashed their Noble Phantasm without a moment’s delay.
The power to turn their Saint Graph into one all-piercing lynchpin weapon by borrowing
power from the planet and Human Order.

1. --If the one from the North Pole had fallen in an urban area... No, this problem would not have humanity’s alone. If that thing had fallen anywhere other than the North Pole, it would have had an irreversible effect on Earth’s rotation, causing...--
2. Fate/Strange Fake: Volume 7, Chapter 22: "The First and Last Breather Day"

Also Nero Chaos, from Tsukihime, who is a DAA (stated to be relative to servants) directly states you would need the power to destroy a continent to harm him

1-That's just empty and delusional boasting from Tesla, he's not strong enough to blow up a whole continent.

2-EMYA does not scale to the Cu Alter in the America Singularity, much less so when using his Noble Phantasm. Scathach's statement also says nothing about the nature of that "destroying the world", whether it'd be one hit, or several, or how long would it take, or even what she means by destroying the world.

3-EMIYA does not scale to either Thia or Enkidu.

4-EMIYA also does not scale to Nrvnqsr Chaos, there is no evidence he'd be capable of destroying the Soil of Genesis.

 

[Astaro]

Told ya’ll this fight wasn’t as uneven as you were saying

 

[MonsterKaido]

1-That's just empty and delusional boasting from Tesla, he's not strong enough to blow up a whole continent.

2-EMYA does not scale to the Cu Alter in the America Singularity, much less so when using his Noble Phantasm. Scathach's statement also says nothing about the nature of that "destroying the world", whether it'd be one hit, or several, or how long would it take, or even what she means by destroying the world.

3-EMIYA does not scale to either Thia or Enkidu.

4-EMIYA also does not scale to Nrvnqsr Chaos, there is no evidence he'd be capable of destroying the Soil of Genesis.

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[Astaro]

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That’s no more me than you are NikaInParis or Sir Yasheen lol