Zoldycks vs Phantom Troupe

#21
I feel the strongest zoldycks (Silva, Zeno, Illumi(?)) outcompete the troupe except for Chrollo, but the phantom troupe is more well-rounded and doesn't need to be carried by their strongest dudes.
 
#25
If he's a 99% for Hisoka then he's almost his equal :kayneshrug:
And Hisoka bodies any of these spider bitches
IIRC he was hisoka said him as 90. He himself is 100 most likely. I don't think someone like feitan is that far away and then it depends on compatibility and match ups as well. For now illumi is lacking in feats :kayneshrug:
 

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#26
How does illumi outcompete feitan/uvogin?
Illumi is a 95 to Hisoka 100
It shows both are close

also they are working as a « duo » and are « friends »

Illumi is 100% close to Hisoka

while I don’t think most of the PT are that close to Hisoka
Only the very strongest members maybe (chrollo obviously)
 
#27
Illumi is a 95 to Hisoka 100
It shows both are close

also they are working as a « duo » and are « friends »

Illumi is 100% close to Hisoka

while I don’t think most of the PT are that close to Hisoka
Only the very strongest members maybe (chrollo obviously)
By portrayal illumi does have advantage over most PT but I don't think it guarantees anything. Feitan is pretty impressive in his own right and we do not know where he would rank in hisoka's scaling. Hisoka was mainly interested in chrollo as he was simply the strongest PT.
 
#28
How does illumi outcompete feitan/uvogin?
Illumi is a 95 to Hisoka's 100, so the difference between them is very small/marginal (5%). Hisoka should be top-level amongst the troupe, so it speaks very highly of Ilumi to be so close to him.
Lowkey has a good matchup against Feitan, he doesn't need to inflict lots of damage for a win, all he needs is to stick a needle in him. Would struggle more with Uvo, but it's not like he doesn't have the same win condition here.
 
#29
Illumi is a 95 to Hisoka's 100, so the difference between them is very small/marginal (5%). Hisoka should be top-level amongst the troupe, so it speaks very highly of Ilumi to be so close to him.
Lowkey has a good matchup against Feitan, he doesn't need to inflict lots of damage for a win, all he needs is to stick a needle in him. Would struggle more with Uvo, but it's not like he doesn't have the same win condition here.
Proof illumi can land his needles on feitan?
 
#30
Roughly, yet:

Zeno and Silva are comparable to Chrollo so superior than the other spiders.

Killua would be.. an average spider, if you give him plot armor then he can probably even extreme diff a strong one (the combat oriented ones I mean). Also it would depend a lot on the set up of the fight.

Illumi would be a strong spider at least, he is comparable to Hisoka who fought with Chrollo (even if he was toyed with in the end).

Kalluto is the weakest spider.

Milluki can probably be a strong support from the shadows (maybe, somehow) otherwise I don't think he would last more than some seconds in a close fight.

Gotoh is maybe a strong nen user but nowhere near the strength of a Spider or a Zoldyck, Hisoka made short work of him.

Tsubone is probably quite a lot stronger than Gotoh yet I doubt she can confront with a Spider, she can be support maybe.

Amane is weaker and more naive than Gotoh, she is still too young.


Yet the spiders should be overall stronger even if not by much, then it is to note that their teamwork would for sure be better than the Zoldyck teamwork (maybe only Zeno, Silva and Illumi teamwork can compare but the others have too less knowledge about eachother fighting style and/or are also more inexperienced in general).
 
#31
Proof illumi can land his needles on feitan?
Why not? A Hisoka-level fighter who was rated above the zodiacs should be more than capable of keeping up with Feitan, Feitan's durability has never been highlighted that much, and should be logically lower than Uvogin's, who was getting pierced by Porcupine and Rabid Dog.
 
#32
Why not? A Hisoka-level fighter who was rated above the zodiacs should be more than capable of keeping up with Feitan, Feitan's durability has never been highlighted that much, and should be logically lower than Uvogin's, who was getting pierced by Porcupine and Rabid Dog.
If you have panel then you can post. Otherwise its head canon. Matchup matters a lot also and feitan is not that behind.
 
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