Speculations Zoro and Sanji's opponents in the Black Beard Pirates confirmed?

#21
Lafitte having a background info shows he is important but doesn't mean second strongest or third. Lafitte has skills that others don't have, navigation and hypnotism, and he can fly. Great combination. But if you are searching for power Burgess must be the strongest of BB pirates after the captain pre-Impel Down.

Burgess's power was highlighted more than others; beating some pirate in mock town and screaming as champion and getting the attention of Luffy and Zoro. Then throwing a two storey building while jumping at the same time. And then talking about how good that Ace fought like a warrior in impel down when they see Luffy meaning that he is interested in that area more than others, then Dressrosa feats etc , all but strength and power feats and Oda foreshadowed that when Burgess gets the top level devil fruit he wants, he will be very powerful as he is already. While as I said Lafitte is also very important, his skills has been highlighted in different areas. We don't even know if he can use Haki yet while Burgess is already confirmed as two type Haki user. Though he will probably use Haki as every titanic captain.

Then BB gets into Impel Down to gather more Burgess type power houses not very skilled people like Lafitte. BB isn't a type of guy that does unnecessary things, if he already gathered enough powerful people he wouldn't need Impel Down crew. Impel Down crew and Shiryu must be his top level fighters and Aokiji. Then comes Burgess, and others like Lafitte and Doc Q, Auge etc they are still powerful and based on what BB said even the weakest BB pirate is > Bonney since he said Bonney is too weak to join his crew. But the top level fighters must be others as I mentioned above. Lafitte is important like Nami is important for the crew.
 
#22
Lafitte having a background info shows he is important but doesn't mean second strongest or third. Lafitte has skills that others don't have, navigation and hypnotism, and he can fly. Great combination. But if you are searching for power Burgess must be the strongest of BB pirates after the captain pre-Impel Down.

Burgess's power was highlighted more than others; beating some pirate in mock town and screaming as champion and getting the attention of Luffy and Zoro. Then throwing a two storey building while jumping at the same time. And then talking about how good that Ace fought like a warrior in impel down when they see Luffy meaning that he is interested in that area more than others, then Dressrosa feats etc , all but strength and power feats and Oda foreshadowed that when Burgess gets the top level devil fruit he wants, he will be very powerful as he is already. While as I said Lafitte is also very important, his skills has been highlighted in different areas. We don't even know if he can use Haki yet while Burgess is already confirmed as two type Haki user. Though he will probably use Haki as every titanic captain.

Then BB gets into Impel Down to gather more Burgess type power houses not very skilled people like Lafitte. BB isn't a type of guy that does unnecessary things, if he already gathered enough powerful people he wouldn't need Impel Down crew. Impel Down crew and Shiryu must be his top level fighters and Aokiji. Then comes Burgess, and others like Lafitte and Doc Q, Auge etc they are still powerful and based on what BB said even the weakest BB pirate is > Bonney since he said Bonney is too weak to join his crew. But the top level fighters must be others as I mentioned above. Lafitte is important like Nami is important for the crew.
Maybe you're right, perhaps Burgess could fit the personality for an opponent for Sanji.

But still, i think since King and Queen got introduced, im waiting for something similar to them
 

Finalbeta

Law Nerd
#23
I don't see much ground for Sanji to end up facing Shiryu realistically. Zoro v Shiryu is too important unless Oda went full crazy and made Burgess stronger. Also swordsmen fights are what Zoro usually roll with. They are 2 badasses also thirsty for battle although their personality complexively different.
 

Finalbeta

Law Nerd
#25
Tbh, Laffite seems more hax than OP. He specialises in hynotism. Maybe he is Nami’s opponent.

I dont know. Im still feeling Sanji Vs Burgess
I'm not sure of that. He looks too powerful for Nami unless Nami will spice her arsenal even more.

For now Brook is the most solid bet.

I also think Nami fits Pizarro better for the treasure matter.
 
#26
Lafitte having a background info shows he is important but doesn't mean second strongest or third. Lafitte has skills that others don't have, navigation and hypnotism, and he can fly. Great combination. But if you are searching for power Burgess must be the strongest of BB pirates after the captain pre-Impel Down.

Burgess's power was highlighted more than others; beating some pirate in mock town and screaming as champion and getting the attention of Luffy and Zoro. Then throwing a two storey building while jumping at the same time. And then talking about how good that Ace fought like a warrior in impel down when they see Luffy meaning that he is interested in that area more than others, then Dressrosa feats etc , all but strength and power feats and Oda foreshadowed that when Burgess gets the top level devil fruit he wants, he will be very powerful as he is already. While as I said Lafitte is also very important, his skills has been highlighted in different areas. We don't even know if he can use Haki yet while Burgess is already confirmed as two type Haki user. Though he will probably use Haki as every titanic captain.

Then BB gets into Impel Down to gather more Burgess type power houses not very skilled people like Lafitte. BB isn't a type of guy that does unnecessary things, if he already gathered enough powerful people he wouldn't need Impel Down crew. Impel Down crew and Shiryu must be his top level fighters and Aokiji. Then comes Burgess, and others like Lafitte and Doc Q, Auge etc they are still powerful and based on what BB said even the weakest BB pirate is > Bonney since he said Bonney is too weak to join his crew. But the top level fighters must be others as I mentioned above. Lafitte is important like Nami is important for the crew.
So to me I kinda see it like how Crocodiles crew was built.

Looking power and design wise Mr. 4 seemed to be the strongest, but Mr. 1 had deadly skills that made up for the physical strength difference and Mr. 2 had a mastery of martial arts and “hax” abilities.

I do wanna know why Blackbeard made Lafitte his chief of staff and I think this will really clear up the opponents
 
#30
In my book..

Burgess is more likely to be Sanjis enemy. Based on him being basically BBs right hand man, evidenced by Burgess being the Captain of the first ship, while Shiryu is the second captain.

(Not saying that this makes Burgess stronger then Shiryu only to show their positions near BB as the captain like Sanji and Zoro are when they take command on the rest of the crew if separated.)

Also while Shiryu mirrors Sanjis ability to turn invisible,
Burgess mirrors Zoros position in the crew and the archetype of the "mountain-of-muscles" type of guy. (Also Burgess getting 'lost' after Dress Rosa)

Sure it wouldn't be in the same way Oda usually handled the match ups, as usually Zoro takes on Number 2 and Sanji fights Number 3.
But this seems even more to have sanji fight a character that reflects some of zoros archetypes and vice versa.

And yes I read the comments of some people here thinking the og bb crew isn't at the same power level as the impel down bb gang.
But that seems rather unlikely.
As Blackbeard probably would let go of any person that is not strong or useful enough and give his position and df to some one more fitting don't you think?
 
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