Powers & Abilities Zoro doesn't know CoA Barrier and CoA Internal Destruction..

[Sentry22]

I suppose Anime has the best track record when it comes to accuracy. It’s not like they’ve ever taken liberties when it comes to the depiction of certain events in the story. They’re using Zoro to describe Luffy’s new Haki because he’s the only person from the crew at the rooftop. Nobody else has heard or even seen anything regarding Luffy’s training.

 

[Sentinel]

Honestly, Zori not having ID Haki is straight up headcanon lmao

How is this headcanon when Zoro has never shown ID Haki? Even the pics you provided make it seem like Zoro finally saw how ID Haki looks like, the version which Luffy trained during Udon and after Udon.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

How is this headcanon when Zoro has never shown ID Haki? Even the pics you provided make it seem like Zoro finally saw how ID Haki looks like, the version which Luffy trained during Udon and after Udon.

Zoro not using it yet /=/ Not having it at all .

 

[Rootbeer]

The point was that it was from a distance so that refutes your point

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The argument is a joke actually. We know for a fact that zoro has invisible barrier haki since that is needed for a swordsman to cut anything and to cut nothing. The barrier can sharpen the blade or shield it so that the sword can't even cut a leaf.

This is why my argument has always been that rokoushiki users all use some variant of ryou since rankyaku is the sharpening of a blunt kick attack. Hence why a kick can produce a mid-long range slash

Even geppo is a use of ryou since the user is platforming on air. He is using emission (similar to sentomarus air palms) to propel off of air

Hell even shigan exhibits the properties of ryou since you can actually shot it off from a distance exactly similar to sentomarus air palms.

And then we have rokogun. Coincidentally when you have mastered all other rokushiki techniques with most of them being ryou based you can use the rokogun which is the culmination of the usage of the users ryou

I'm saying when Zoro cleaved Monet in 2, there was no Haki involved there..

Actually CoA Barrier is not needed for a Swordsman to cut everything and nothing as shown in Alabasta.. Plus CoA Barrier with a Sword would '' not cut '' no touch, not, '' not cut '' touching which is not Swordsmanship..

I don't know about the Rokushiki.. Zoro was not using ryou(haki) to produce air slashes.. I can see Kamie being CoO, Tekkai was shown to be CoA, Rokuogan could be Internal Destruction.. Those are reasonable, but Shigan, Rankyaku and Geppou seems to be only strenght related..

But you cant expect people to accept this theory of yours without proper evidence just because it makes sense to you

It's not as strong as a theory, it's an hypothesis that makes sense.. Can Ashura come from Sandai Kitetsu?.. Yes it can..

Are you an idiot? With your approach, you can accuse any person with a low salary of robbery without evidence, because there is logic in this.

There's no conclusive evidence that Ashura is from Zoro and not from Sandai, so i don't have to provide evidence on something that can't be verified, as long as my hypothesis is logical it's fine..

Anime is filler, so it's irrelevant.. If Zoro had those Haki, he would say oh so Luffy can use that too or something like that..

 

[Artem]

I'm saying when Zoro cleaved Monet in 2, there was no Haki involved there..

Actually CoA Barrier is not needed for a Swordsman to cut everything and nothing as shown in Alabasta.. Plus CoA Barrier with a Sword would '' not cut '' no touch, not, '' not cut '' touching which is not Swordsmanship..

I don't know about the Rokushiki.. Zoro was not using ryou(haki) to produce air slashes.. I can see Kamie being CoO, Tekkai was shown to be CoA, Rokuogan could be Internal Destruction.. Those are reasonable, but Shigan, Rankyaku and Geppou seems to be only strenght related..



It's not as strong as a theory, it's an hypothesis that makes sense.. Can Ashura come from Sandai Kitetsu?.. Yes it can..


There's no conclusive evidence that Ashura is from Zoro and not from Sandai, so i don't have to provide evidence on something that can't be verified, as long as my hypothesis is logical it's fine..


Anime is filler, so it's irrelevant.. If Zoro had those Haki, he would say oh so Luffy can use that too or something like that..

Where is the logic in your hypothesis? This has never been indicated by any character.

 

[BigAmmi]

Even the anime was better than the manga at that point

 

[Rootbeer]

Where is the logic in your hypothesis? This has never been indicated by any character.

Sandai Kitetsu is literally cursed..

 

[Guymieux]

Sandai Kitetsu is literally cursed..

We’ve already been told what a cursed sword is you absolute retard . Go back to chewing on crayons

 

[Sentinel]

Zoro not using it yet /=/ Not having it at all .

But there is no evidence to Zoro having it... plus, in ur previous post u argued about how Zoro doesn't even need it, so how tf does it ultimately matter???

 

[Artem]

Sandai Kitetsu is literally cursed..

So what? The curse kills swordsmen within a year. What does Ashura have to do with it, lol?

I can say that Ashura is the soul of quina, who turns into Ashura and helps Zoro or any other nonsense. You literally take some shit out of your head and point it out as fact without proof.

 

[Rootbeer]

So what? The curse kills swordsmen within a year. What does Ashura have to do with it, lol?

I can say that Ashura is the soul of quina, who turns into Ashura and helps Zoro or any other nonsense. You literally take some shit out of your head and point it out as fact without proof.

The Curse just mean Kitetsu has a power, Ashura that Zoro draws out..

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

But there is no evidence to Zoro having it... plus, in ur previous post u argued about how Zoro doesn't even need it, so how tf does it ultimately matter???

We don't know how ID works for swordmen since it's poorly explained lmao, but like i said nothing says he doesn't have it since fellas's main argument is what he said after Luffy used it against Kaido while it doesn't confirm shit

 

[Artem]

Сандай Китэцу буквально проклят..

The Curse just mean Kitetsu has a power, Ashura that Zoro draws out..

You were literally told what a curse means. The curse of Sandai kitetsu = the swordsman dies after a year of using this sword. Lol. Read manga, not voices from your head

 

[Sentinel]

We don't know how ID works for swordmen since it's poorly explained lmao, but like i said nothing says he doesn't have it since fellas's main argument is what he said after Luffy used it against Kaido while it doesn't confirm shit

Sure but ultimately, it doesn't really change a thing as long as Zoro has Ryuo. You trynna argue for Zoro possibly having an ability which he has never shown before is the equal to Sanji possibly having "FS" for similar rhetoric.

 

[Zenos7]

It's not as strong as a theory, it's an hypothesis that makes sense.. Can Ashura come from Sandai Kitetsu?.. Yes it can.

can ashura come from zoro? yes it can.

can ashura come from wado ichimonji? yes it can.

can ashura come from the bandana? yes it can.

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I can say that Ashura is the soul of quina, who turns into Ashura and helps Zoro or any other nonsense.

lul

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There's no conclusive evidence that Ashura is from Zoro and not from Sandai, so i don't have to provide evidence on something that can't be verified, as long as my hypothesis is logical it's fine..

and vice versa, mind you.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

I'm saying when Zoro cleaved Monet in 2, there was no Haki involved there..

Actually CoA Barrier is not needed for a Swordsman to cut everything and nothing as shown in Alabasta.. Plus CoA Barrier with a Sword would '' not cut '' no touch, not, '' not cut '' touching which is not Swordsmanship..

I don't know about the Rokushiki.. Zoro was not using ryou(haki) to produce air slashes.. I can see Kamie being CoO, Tekkai was shown to be CoA, Rokuogan could be Internal Destruction.. Those are reasonable, but Shigan, Rankyaku and Geppou seems to be only strenght related..



It's not as strong as a theory, it's an hypothesis that makes sense.. Can Ashura come from Sandai Kitetsu?.. Yes it can..


There's no conclusive evidence that Ashura is from Zoro and not from Sandai, so i don't have to provide evidence on something that can't be verified, as long as my hypothesis is logical it's fine..


Anime is filler, so it's irrelevant.. If Zoro had those Haki, he would say oh so Luffy can use that too or something like that..

The others cannot be strength related since individuals weaker that. Kaido and big mom can perform them. Those techniques are not strength dependent

 

[Rootbeer]

can ashura come from zoro? yes it can.

can ashura come from wado ichimonji? yes it can.

can ashura come from the bandana? yes it can.

Ashura can only be from Zoro or Kitetsu, the sword's name basically mean Demon(Oni) slayer so that's why Zoro was able to scar Kaido the Oni and Ashura is named Demon Spirit..

and vice versa, mind you.

Yeah it's fine, it can be either from Zoro or Kitetsu, it's just that Zoro fans don't want to admit the very likely probability that Meito Swords have powers..

The others cannot be strength related since individuals weaker that. Kaido and big mom can perform them. Those techniques are not strength dependent

Are you saying Rankyakus are CoA imbued or just that you need to use CoA on your leg to produce them?..

 

[Zenos7]

Yeah it's fine, it can be either from Zoro or Kitetsu, it's just that Zoro fans don't want to admit the very likely probability that Meito Swords have powers..

Why is that probable?

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Ashura can only be from Zoro or Kitetsu, the sword's name basically mean Demon(Oni) slayer so that's why Zoro was able to scar Kaido the Oni and Ashura is named Demon Spirit..

Why not the bandana?

In like his introduction he had a demonic aura way before getting kitetsu.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Ashura can only be from Zoro or Kitetsu, the sword's name basically mean Demon(Oni) slayer so that's why Zoro was able to scar Kaido the Oni and Ashura is named Demon Spirit..


Yeah it's fine, it can be either from Zoro or Kitetsu, it's just that Zoro fans don't want to admit the very likely probability that Meito Swords have powers..


Are you saying Rankyakus are CoA imbued or just that you need to use CoA on your leg to produce them?..

You need ryou to produce them. Same with the long ranged shigan attacks. Both geppo and shigan are exactly the same in comparison to sentomarus air palms in that sense

 

[Blazing Lion]

@Rootbeer Does knowing a number of techniques really matter that much? Sentomaru and the Boas sisters knew ACoA (the version Hyogoro knew, not ID) and yet it didnt matter in the end. Does knowing this ACoA technique help Sentomaru against Luccis CoA attack?