General & Others Zoro fans, based on what we know right now if Sanji beats Aokiji and Zoro beats Shiryu when the SH and BB crews clash how would you rationalize it?

[MonochromeYoru]

ok first of all, lanji is not fucking beating Kuzan. Thinking that is retarded as fuck.

Secondly, zolotards already put the Janitor above Kuzan. So they won't need to change their retarded headcanons.

Anyway, Kuzan is not a permanent BBP. He will betray them by the time the shp fight them.

 

[kekaro]

This is like the 4th least cope inducing admiral match up for temple broskis, bad pick for bait @DonWick

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's Brook's opponent. It's pretty clear.

Brook is never fighting anyone half as hype as Lafitte. Brooks more likely to help chopper in the doc Q and stronger fight just like he did for Black Maria and Robin.

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It’s a hypothetical. There really are isn’t a good opponent for Sanji as far as parallels go.

Lafiitte. He’s one of the most relevant members which means he’ll be one of the most powerful.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Brook is never fighting anyone half as hype as Lafitte. Brooks more likely to help chopper in the doc Q and stronger fight just like he did for Black Maria and Robin.

That's just a problem with you underestimating Brook.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's just a problem with you underestimating Brook.

It’s not. At this point it’s a pattern. Unless you count zeo brook has never had a serious fight in the manga. Not in his intro arc nor in Wano when just about everyone else has. I’m also not going to overestimate chopper into thinking he can solo Doc Q and Stronger when Oda treats chopper like a mascot.

Brook and Chopper Vs Doc Q and Stronger makes the most sense.

Lafitte is wayyy too important for Brook. Oda would never have an old legend hype up a Brook victim.

 

[trav]

Rationalize why exactly?

Kuzan is not confirmed to be stronger than Shiryu.
Agendapiecers pre-emptively coping again?

 

[DonWick]

This is like the 4th least cope inducing admiral match up for temple broskis, bad pick for bait @DonWick

This isn’t bait. My post said I don’t think it’ll happen. It’s a hypothetical because I’m bored and wanted to get people talking.

 

[kekaro]

This isn’t bait. My post said I don’t think it’ll happen. It’s a hypothetical because I’m bored and wanted to get people talking.

I know what you wanted
Next time ask what happens what happens if Damaji breaks blind fatties saijo as a starter

 

[Fn Lucci]

He probably might at this rate, it'd be impressive

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Luzan already struggled against Old Garp and stated it was too much for them, so nothing changed.

 

[Robin swan]

If sanji gets the feats to beat kuzan and Zoro's feat are worse at that point sanji is just stronger than zoro. Imo when they fight the bb 1 of 3 things are going to happen.
1. Kuzan abandons bb for some reason/isn't there for the make. We'd get the standard strongest to weakest matchups.

2. Zoro has to fight kuzan and sanji shyriuu by strength.

3. Someone like Yamato joins or a ally fights kuzan and the rest follows point 1.

Imo I highly doubt sanji fights kuzan and wins vs the bbp. There just isn't a concrete reason and I don't think sanji would be strong enough you actually win yet

 

[Blazing Lion]

Kuzan is not the Sanji opponent type, really doubt it would happen. If it happens then it will be same as King and Queen/Mr.1 and Mr.2 where Kuzan would be the Queen/Mr.2 insert and Shiryu the King/Mr.1 insert (both of whom outclass their counterparts hugely).

 

[kekaro]

Kuzan is not the Sanji opponent type, really doubt it would happen. If it happens then it will be same as King and Queen/Mr.1 and Mr.2 where Kuzan would be the Queen/Mr.2 insert and Shiryu the King/Mr.1 insert (both of whom outclass their counterparts hugely).

Indeed, we need a very high pitched voice opponent that gets laughed by his own underlings or a giraffe for bluddies type
Octupus that spurts onhimself add ontop

 

[Blazing Lion]

Indeed, we need a very high pitched voice opponent that gets laughed by his own underlings or a giraffe for bluddies type
Octupus that spurts onhimself add ontop

I was pointing out the opponents that required Zoro to unlock a powerup to break their defense/invincibility which is what Shiryu might be. If Shiryu is going to be the Pica/Hachi then obviously it would be different. If Shiryu is the Ohm/Kaku type opponent then it will also be different.

 

[DonWick]

If sanji gets the feats to beat kuzan and Zoro's feat are worse at that point sanji is just stronger than zoro. Imo when they fight the bb 1 of 3 things are going to happen.
1. Kuzan abandons bb for some reason/isn't there for the make. We'd get the standard strongest to weakest matchups.

2. Zoro has to fight kuzan and sanji shyriuu by strength.

3. Someone like Yamato joins or a ally fights kuzan and the rest follows point 1.

Imo I highly doubt sanji fights kuzan and wins vs the bbp. There just isn't a concrete reason and I don't think sanji would be strong enough you actually win yet

What about Koby?

 

[mly90]

Zero issue with it personally i already have Whiryu above that bum it wouldn't affect marimo in the slightest

 

[grey matter]

Don't think it's going to happen, Shiryuu seems a lot weaker than Aokiji

But if it does, massive boost for Sanji portrayal

 

[soheilhazrat]

As sanji fan if this happens good for sanji cause he will be finally defeating a top top tier, making him one of the like top 10 alive but still would mean shuryu is/was stronger than kuzan cause thats just how it works

 

[BlackLegFring]

Might as well ask if Sanji defeats Blackbeard while Luffy beats Burgess, lmao!

 

[Robin swan]

What about Koby?

It's a possibility especially since garp was captured because of him. He'd need a even bigger jump in power than sanji to do it tho.