Character Discussion Zoro importance in story?

[Getku]

We all know zoro fights number 2 in every arc.
But Does zoro have any other importance in story except fighting number two of each crew.
Is zoro role moving story in any way.
If we remove zoro from story. Would it change story in anyway.
Even if zoro doesn't exist oda could give powerup to any other strawhats and they could fight number 2.
Does zoro presence really not matter in story?
What do you think

 

[Albino 👑]

All the strawhats are important to making luffy pirate king. He needs them all

Same way he could technically give franky a power up to be as strong as zoro. He could also technically just have zoro learn to be just as good a shipwright
Neither is happening tho

 

[Getku]

All the strawhats are important to making luffy pirate king. He needs them all

Same way he could technically give franky a power up to be as strong as zoro. He could also technically just have zoro learn to be just as good a shipwright
Neither is happening tho

that's what i am asking. Does zoro have any other importance in story except fighting number 2. Basically other strawhats fight too sanji number 3, other number 4,5,6 so on.

 

[Moegara]

This is stupid. You could say that about any character other than Luffy. "Just remove him from the story and give his power/unique skill to a different character and nothing changes".

 

[Getku]

This is stupid. You could say that about any character other than Luffy. "Just remove him from the story and give his power/unique skill to a different character and nothing changes".

point is not giving other power.
My point is what else zoro contribute except fighting number 2. Like sanji moved entire arc(he also fight number 3), Robin is poneglyh reader(She also fight some one number 5,6) and there might be war for robin, Nami will deduce the map(She also fight some number). I am not talking about their role in crew. While zoro role is just fighting number 2. He doesn't move story in any way and has no importance

 

[Infitima]

I think I know what you're asking, and the answer is I don't think so. I'm not saying he's unimportant. But aside from the Baratie scene I can't think of any arc where he drove the plot. Robin, Usopp, Nami all drove the plot in their arcs. Sanji and Luffy drove it in FMI and WCI. Luffy, Nami, and Robin drove most of Skypiea, Wano was a Luffy race forward, Sanji sometimes. Alabasta and Drum were Luffy, Nami, Sanji. Dressrosa Luffy and Law sometimes Usopp, Zoro did get some spotlight though with the cage idea.. PH Luffy, Sanji.

Most arcs, Zoro is just there, battles, sometimes motivates or keeps people in line. But he doesn't push things forward or be the catalyst for events.

 

[Albino 👑]

that's what i am asking. Does zoro have any other importance in story except fighting number 2. Basically other strawhats fight too sanji number 3, other number 4,5,6 so on.

Outside of fighting probably not tbh
But hes the strongest strawhat after luffy and stength is important

Even if someone wants to argue sanji can beat his opponent it doesn't really matter because theyd still be overpowered
Like sanji can't beat king and queen at the same time. Just like how zoro needed to fight against in order for them to win hes gonna need to fight someone eos in order to help win against the world government

 

[Getku]

I think I know what you're asking, and the answer is I don't think so. I'm not saying he's unimportant. But aside from the Baratie scene I can't think of any arc where he drove the plot. Robin, Usopp, Nami all drove the plot in their arcs. Sanji and Luffy drove it in FMI and WCI. Luffy, Nami, and Robin drove most of Skypiea, Wano was a Luffy race forward, Sanji sometimes. Alabasta and Drum were Luffy, Nami, Sanji. Dressrosa Luffy and Law sometimes Usopp, Zoro did get some spotlight though with the cage idea.. PH Luffy, Sanji.

Most arcs, Zoro is just there, battles, sometimes motivates or keeps people in line. But he doesn't push things forward or be the catalyst for events.

yes i am trying to say samething. What does zoro contribute in story except fighting number 2

 

[Moegara]

point is not giving other power.
My point is what else zoro contribute except fighting number 2. Like sanji moved entire arc(he also fight number 3), Robin is poneglyh reader(She also fight some one number 5,6) and there might be war for robin, Nami will deduce the map(She also fight some number). I am not talking about their role in crew. While zoro role is just fighting number 2. He doesn't move story in any way and has no importance

Yes, I know your point is hating on Zoro. My previous answer remains the same.

 

[Getku]

Yes, I know your point is hating on Zoro. My previous answer remains the same.

lmao i am literally zoro fan. Why would i hate him. He is my top1 character. I am just not liking oda not giving a sh*t about zoro

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

i actually made a post like this one a while back. But no one has given me an answer that mattered lol.

 

[zenox]

Unofficial vice captain of the strawhats

 

[kumae]

This thread is pretty stupid because if you apply this logic to zoro you will also do this to beckman/,rayleigh because like them zoro doesn't have any specific role(navigator,cook,doc....)he is the swordsman/no.2 of the crew he is not Vice captain oficialy but he acts like one he is the one who is the voice of the crew and everybody listen him and zoro doesn't move the story?what about the other mugis?and what's wrong with Zoro's dream not be related to the one piece project?

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point is not giving other power.
My point is what else zoro contribute except fighting number 2. Like sanji moved entire arc(he also fight number 3), Robin is poneglyh reader(She also fight some one number 5,6) and there might be war for robin, Nami will deduce the map(She also fight some number). I am not talking about their role in crew. While zoro role is just fighting number 2. He doesn't move story in any way and has no importance

He is the main combatant of the crew and he wants to be the WSS like luffy wants to be the PK

 

[Getku]

Unofficial vice captain of the strawhats

like i said it's not about role in crew. It's about importance in moving story. Like usopp did in dressrosa and water 7,momo in wano, sanji in wci, robin in ennies lobby and still her archaelogist ability and ability to read poneglyph,nami in skypiea,arlong park e.t.c.

Post automatically merged: Apr 27, 2023

This thread is pretty stupid because if you apply this logic to zoro you will also do this to beckman/,rayleigh because like them zoro doesn't have any specific role(navigator,cook,doc....)he is the swordsman/no.2 of the crew he is not Vice captain oficialy but he acts like one he is the one who is the voice of the crew and everybody listen him and zoro doesn't move the story?what about the other mugis?and what's wrong with Zoro's dream not be related to the one piece project?

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He is the main combatant of the crew and he wants to be the WSS like luffy wants to be the PK

why would i care about beckamann lmao. He is literally a side character. While zoro is main charcater one of strawhats

 

[kumae]

like i said it's not about role in crew. It's about importance in moving story. Like usopp did in dressrosa and water 7,momo in wano, sanji in wci, robin in ennies lobby and still her archaelogist ability and ability to read poneglyph,nami in skypiea,arlong park e.t.c.

How the fuck they move the story if not for zoro luffy and crew would be dead in thriller bark lol

 

[Moegara]

lmao i am literally zoro fan. Why would i hate him. He is my top1 character. I am just not liking oda not giving a sh*t about zoro

Are you now? What does it even mean Oda doesn't give a shit about him? It's common among all straw hats (except Sanji in WCI and obviously Luffy) to have become a lot more irrelevant than pre-TS. They get less of their usual scenes, but Zoro has been consistently getting his shine like always as number 2. Notably recently on Wano, even with all the offscreening Oda did, he still went out of his way in several aspects for Zoro.

So what is it that bothers you? That he's "only there to fight" in a battle shonen? That he doesn't "move the story forward"? It's true that he's going along for the ride, but only Luffy really moves it forward. Whatever other straw hats bring to the story (like reading poneglyphs) can be replaced in the plot just as much as Zoro's battle prowess could be replaced by rewriting other characters to be as strong as he is. Thing is, just like with them, you can't take Zoro out of the story without needing to rewrite other characters to make up for it.

If this was a serious complaint, you would notice other characters like Usopp are more at risk of not mattering anymore (and not having mattered for a while), yet you claim other characters are pivotal at certain arcs like Nami on Skypiea, when they weren't any more important than the other characters there. There are little arcs in which characters are really pivotal, and that's when it's "their arcs" like Sanji on WCI and obviously Nami in her own home town (and even then, Luffy and the rest would have fought Arlong and liberated the town even if Nami wasn't there, so you could still be arguing she "wasn't needed" there).


This take almost sounds as if Zoro existed in a vacuum and only appeared in the story during his big fights, but he really has very good moments (and some great ones) outside of that.

 

[a_fan]

The reason why Zoro's backstory haven't been revealed in depth yet because it's tied with the Void Century and we can understand why they don't want to reveal too much information about it. The same reason why we don't know about Kaido's motivations/depression that got people mad about why they didn't show his backstory but because it's tied with the God Valley incident so they'd leave that to Xebec's flashbacks.

His flashbacks in Wano, the Grim Reaper part and all the lore dump in Egghed is foreshadowing that Zoro will get his. It will be more significant than everyone else except Luffy's.

He is very likely to be descended from Ryuma and the prestigious Wano samurai family (Shimotskuki clan?) who played a major role of kicking World Government out of Wano and was affiliated with the Ancient Kingdom which would explain his strength, having similiar sword style as Ushimaru (Yakuzas said Zoro reminds them of him) and the fact that he used Asura infused Haki in the beginning as a rookie pirate hunter.

How does he learn all of this without anyone's guidance and why does he want to become WSS? The only explanation is that he shares the same blood as Ryuma who was known as a sword god. I'm pretty sure everyone thought Sanji was 'naturally gifted' until Germa 66 explained everything about his powers 800 episodes later.

 

[traxex123]

His background was even explained in SBS