Bro what are you talking about? Ichigo is one of the most popular characters in shonen jump. Sure, Kenpachi, Byakuya, Aizen, Grimmjow, Ulquiorra, Yhwach and Co are also very popular but Ichigo is the shonen face of his manga, for a good reason.
You're pretending like getting his sword cut by a broken godlike character is apparently an L but it does not change the fact that Ichigo also created lots of hype moments for the Bleach community as well. I'm not that invested in the Bleach community like you do but that's even more proof how the average anime fan views Ichigo.
Again, it's about being an iconic swordsman and not who's a better winning swordsman. Do I need to post the definition?
You're being unreasonable.
But Zoro is not the MC of a pirate manga, Ichigo is the face of his manga just like Naruto or Goku is. It's not just a popular manga, it's a popular manga about swordsman.
People will rather remember about Ichigo than Zoro. Heck, I'd say Mihawk probably has a better game at it.
Also, if you believe Aizen is more iconic than Ichigo, Zoro even has a harder way to be more iconic than Aizen. Bro is one of the most popular antagonists in the entire anime/manga community. Aizen being an iconic swordsman is without a question.
Irrelevant.
Authors don't judge how the majority of people think about their created character.
How is character development relevant again?
At that part, Guts beats both of them neg diff lol.
So why even bring up character development here?
Trunks is literally the first introduced Super Saiyan along with Goku who turned the previous antagonist of the Namek Saga, the universe emperor who genocided the entire Saiyan race, into a kebab and he wielded a sword.
DB characters are more famous than OP characters and they have a better shot at being more iconic than the most popular OP characters. I know several people knowing about some DB characters - they are not anime/manga fans whatsoever - try ask them the same thing about OP instead.
How can I compare Zoro to Vegeta or Piccolo? They are not swordsmen.
Sorry bro but I disagree.
Maybe Ichigo gets trashed in agenda based discussions but the average fan hardly thinks of him as the loser whose sword got cut by Yhwach lol.
He's especially popular for these two modes:
Topi-senpai, please tell me you're just trolling... There's no way you don't recognize these characters.
What's next, you don't know who Yoda or Darth Vader is?
You're pretending like getting his sword cut by a broken godlike character is apparently an L but it does not change the fact that Ichigo also created lots of hype moments for the Bleach community as well. I'm not that invested in the Bleach community like you do but that's even more proof how the average anime fan views Ichigo.
Again, it's about being an iconic swordsman and not who's a better winning swordsman. Do I need to post the definition?
You're being unreasonable.
But Zoro is not the MC of a pirate manga, Ichigo is the face of his manga just like Naruto or Goku is. It's not just a popular manga, it's a popular manga about swordsman.
People will rather remember about Ichigo than Zoro. Heck, I'd say Mihawk probably has a better game at it.
Also, if you believe Aizen is more iconic than Ichigo, Zoro even has a harder way to be more iconic than Aizen. Bro is one of the most popular antagonists in the entire anime/manga community. Aizen being an iconic swordsman is without a question.
Irrelevant.
Authors don't judge how the majority of people think about their created character.
How is character development relevant again?
At that part, Guts beats both of them neg diff lol.
So why even bring up character development here?
Trunks is literally the first introduced Super Saiyan along with Goku who turned the previous antagonist of the Namek Saga, the universe emperor who genocided the entire Saiyan race, into a kebab and he wielded a sword.
DB characters are more famous than OP characters and they have a better shot at being more iconic than the most popular OP characters. I know several people knowing about some DB characters - they are not anime/manga fans whatsoever - try ask them the same thing about OP instead.
How can I compare Zoro to Vegeta or Piccolo? They are not swordsmen.
Sorry bro but I disagree.
Maybe Ichigo gets trashed in agenda based discussions but the average fan hardly thinks of him as the loser whose sword got cut by Yhwach lol.
He's especially popular for these two modes:
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Topi-senpai, please tell me you're just trolling... There's no way you don't recognize these characters.
What's next, you don't know who Yoda or Darth Vader is?
If you look at popularity poll
https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Popularity_polls
In later polls (not counting the ones he is not included) he is not the number one anymore. Hitsugaya and Rukia surpassed him on 4th poll. His popularity is declining as Kubo adds more characters. Hitsugaya and Rukia's zanpakuto surpassed Ichigo's zanpakuto on 5th poll.
In 10th poll Rukia surpassed him again.
Ichigo didn't carry Bleach, Bleach was carried by its supporting casts.
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Topi-senpai, please tell me you're just trolling... There's no way you don't recognize these characters. What's next, you don't know who Yoda or Darth Vader is?
What's next, you don't know who Yoda or Darth Vader is?
Just found out it is action adventure (like Spyro the Dragon then?), thought it is Japanese RPG like Final Fantasy and Suikoden series.
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