Break Week Zoro Leaving Wano Injured Could Be Interesting

#1
In Wano, Zoro is injured by Kaido and Big Mom's Hakai attack. The severity of his injuries are similar to Thriller Bark.. Unlike Thriller Bark and "Nothing...happened," Luffy witnesses everything that Zoro has done on the roof. Luffy doesn't really have time to worry about Zoro and why would he? Zoro always pulls through.

Now ZKK or Zoro vs King doesn't matter for the topic of this thread. I do believe that Zoro is leaving Wano in serious or even critical condition. Yes he has the Mink medicine but it does come with adverse side effects. Zoro doesn't care about the side effects he just wants to fight again. Is this the first time Zoro has ever been injured so severely before the end of an arc? I just think Zoro leaving Wano injured could lead to some great character development for Luffy and Zoro.

I think there's a strong possibility that the next arc will be Elbaf and Usopp will get a lot of focus. I also think that if Oda decides to nerf Zoro, then it could lead to good development for Luffy.

Luffy always goes out of his way to help his crew, but has he ever had to do the same for Zoro? Zoro is never going to physically leave the crew (unless he dies). I would like to see Luffy really mature as a captain and understand the consequences of going against two Yonkos at the same time. Especially since Zoro did warn him that Sanji could handle himself in WCI, and he said that it wasn't a good idea to anger two Yonkos. Yes he defeats two Emperors, but the consequence is that Zoro is seriously injured and nerfed for the next arc.

Finally, I think making Zoro injured again at this point in the story is also fascinating for his growth. Zoro is like Luffy in the sense that they are act first and consider the consequences. I want to see Zoro physically and mentally broken from such severe injuries and this rapid healing medicine. His actions are noble, but I cannot imagine that Oda will leave Wano without Zoro suffering the actions of his consequences. I want to see what happens is his dream of WSS is threatened. Would he rely on himself and stay stoic or would he rely on Luffy and the others to help him recover?

Thank you for reading my first thread and I hope it wasn't too long.
 
#2
if it connect with shanks then Oda need to avoid Shanks vs Zoro because shanks is mihawk old rival. then he come up with medicine that making 2xpain for the next arc because post wano zoro mid diff that fodder. Zoro is not a pussy like luffy or sanji to mentaly break by pain. he took luffys pain that enough to knock down a rubber man also before that zoro got nerfed too still he didnt get KO like the MC. zoro build different and he will going through same as before
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#8
wdym? zoro need to surpass yonko shanks to become par with mihawk. and post wano zoro already is
Perhaps? I am just not good at powerscaling because I believe all characters are as strong as the plot needs them to be.
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Let's say after the Wano war, they will celebrated and stay there for couple of weeks, so Zoro will have some time to recovered. And they move on to the next arc (let's say Elbaf), I think Zoro will be nerfed there. Then we will go to either Laugh Tale or Lodestar and Zoro might get full recovery there.
It could be interesting to see the SHs stay in Wano for a few weeks or months. Most of the time there's a bug celebration and then they leave. I think it will be interesting to see them help the citizens of Wano rebuild.

I also thought that a nerfed Zoro in Elbaf could lead to interesting development for Usopp but that's an entirely different thread.
 
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Perhaps? I am just not good at powerscaling because I believe all characters are as strong as the plot needs them to be.
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It could be interesting to see the SHs stay in Wano for a few weeks or months. Most of the time there's a bug celebration and then they leave. I think it will be interesting to see them help the citizens of Wano rebuild.

I also thought that a nerfed Zoro in Elbaf could lead to interesting development for Usopp but that's an entirely different thread.
Oda already buried Lusopp's character 6-feet under. No amount of highlight can recover that sort of damage. :emohiyo:

I think Zoro being injured after Wano is a given. He will likely stay that way as long as the SHs are still dealing with the Yonko crew, 'cause, otherwise, no one but the Yonko themselves would be a believable challenge. He will be at full health before the SHs tumble with the Marines, and certainly before he sees Mihawk again.

@m0nst3Rx this forum could never handle Zoro vs Shanks and Zoro vs Mihawk. There can only be one.
Why not, though? :kaidowhat:

However, I personally don't think Zoro will face Shanks for two reason:

1. Luffy, obviously

2. To my knowledge, Mihawk is the only opponent Zoro actively seeks out. While it's likely that Mihawk told Zoro about Shanks, the story canonically still has Mihawk as the WSS. Beating Shanks won't make Zoro the WSS, beating Mihawk will.

Regardless, there is a reason why Zoro could face Shanks: Big Mom.

As we know, Meme is likely to survive this arc and becomes a primary antagonist for 3 arcs in a row with Elbaf next. Luffy has been itching to kick her ass since FI and this arc is likely the last arc where he does not defeat a top tier alone. With the amount of top tiers he has to contend next, it's within the realm of possibility that Meme becomes the first top tier he solos.

While this means BMP will be there, no way Smoothie can be a believable challenge for Zoro even when injured. This opens a possibility for Shanks and Zoro to spar, provided Zoro is healthy. Although, if Oda makes nerfed Zoro performs well against Shanks after ZKK, the amount of cries from Cook FC will be unreal. :luffylaugh:
 
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However, I personally don't think Zoro will face Shanks for two reason:

1. Luffy, obviously

2. To my knowledge, Mihawk is the only opponent Zoro actively seeks out. While it's likely that Mihawk told Zoro about Shanks, the story canonically still has Mihawk as the WSS. Beating Shanks won't make Zoro the WSS, beating Mihawk will.
Its already been stated that Mihawk wants Zoro to surpass Shanks before he fights him again, so 1 of 2 things will happen when the SHP run into the RHP

1. Luffy tries to stop Zoro from fighting Shanks which leads to their conflict since Zoro already warned Luffy that if he ever stood in his way he will leave the crew after killing Luffy.

2. The promise Luffy made to Shanks will be fulfilled by Zoro beating Shanks, since Luffy already told Shanks he will gather a crew stronger than Shanks's and Zoro beating him is prove of that.
 
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Its already been stated that Mihawk wants Zoro to surpass Shanks before he fights him again, so 1 of 2 things will happen when the SHP run into the RHP

1. Luffy tries to stop Zoro from fighting Shanks which leads to their conflict since Zoro already warned Luffy that if he ever stood in his way he will leave the crew after killing Luffy.

2. The promise Luffy made to Shanks will be fulfilled by Zoro beating Shanks, since Luffy already told Shanks he will gather a crew stronger than Shanks's and Zoro beating him is prove of that.
I don't think Oda will follow route no. 1, but route no. 2 could be interesting.

Especially if it means we have Luffy vs Meme and Zoro vs Shanks next arc.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#14
It would be intriguing yes because we would potentially have a Zoro being capable to surpass his own limits even further and supersede his capabilities.

Also imagine the parallel:

Zoro on Sabaody not on his best condition and fights Kizaru and loses, imagine if he was like that at the final war and won.
 
#15
It's a shame that Oda decided to always keep Usopp in the weakling trio and uses him as comedic relief. I really think Oda should have shown Usopp slowly becoming less frightened of his surroundings. Maybe it will start to happen in Elbaf?

I don't want Shanks to die, but I do like the idea of Zoro and Shanks having some sort of duel. If Zoro is stronger than Shanks, then that would hype Luffy for the EOS.
 
#16
Oda: Last minute addition to justify Zoro coming back in the arc pulled out of his ass

Fandom: This is a grand plan for Zoro, he will be unbeatable

You guys crack me up
It's not a last-minute addition.
Oda always planned on having every supernova taken away so that Luffy could lose his 1v1 to Kaido.
It wasn't a random decision by Oda to have Zoro take Hakkai, then another random decision to have him healed from it...
It's pretty simple to see that the purpose of Hakkai was just to take Zoro away from the Rooftop in a satisfying way.
It was never meant to have him out for the entire arc, lol.
 
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Oda: Last minute addition to justify Zoro coming back in the arc pulled out of his ass

Fandom: This is a grand plan for Zoro, he will be unbeatable

You guys crack me up
What cracks me up is believing that different parts of the plot come from different times or places. Like Oda is given a story that he starts changing. This was exactly his plan, he didn't have a straightforward "versus#2 and done" story that he turned into this.

Zoro has gone through the New world without the ass beatings we've seen for Luffy and Sanji. He lost to Kaido in a situation that was not one on one, and is now on borrowed time to make up for the fact that he was injured in the process of a sacrifice. Oda has been building a story where Zoro shows up as a total savage and nothing actually contradicts it, which is why SO MANY of us on the internet are talking about killing Kaido.

Anyway, the time it takes to recover will be proportionate to his achievement. I don't think he'll need assistance to get to Ryuma's grave or anything. I think he won't be at full fighting strength for a little bit into the next arc. This will allow Oda to continue whatever story follows as Luffy will inhibit himself with stupidity and the others will meander, so that the main conflict doesn't begin or end too soon. After what he pulls off, I'm sure the antagonists are gonna come gunning for a weakened Zoro.
 
#19
After wano they’re going to spend a few months in the country. this will give the world time to move forward as they are resting. This will also give the world government time to come and infiltrate wano, give straw hats time to pick their next destination and then have the straw hats rushed out via marines like alabasta/water 7/dressrosa
 
#20
What cracks me up is believing that different parts of the plot come from different times or places. Like Oda is given a story that he starts changing. This was exactly his plan, he didn't have a straightforward "versus#2 and done" story that he turned into this.

Zoro has gone through the New world without the ass beatings we've seen for Luffy and Sanji. He lost to Kaido in a situation that was not one on one, and is now on borrowed time to make up for the fact that he was injured in the process of a sacrifice. Oda has been building a story where Zoro shows up as a total savage and nothing actually contradicts it, which is why SO MANY of us on the internet are talking about killing Kaido.

Anyway, the time it takes to recover will be proportionate to his achievement. I don't think he'll need assistance to get to Ryuma's grave or anything. I think he won't be at full fighting strength for a little bit into the next arc. This will allow Oda to continue whatever story follows as Luffy will inhibit himself with stupidity and the others will meander, so that the main conflict doesn't begin or end too soon. After what he pulls off, I'm sure the antagonists are gonna come gunning for a weakened Zoro.
Continue cracking.
 
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