Speculations Zoro needs to beat Mihawk before Luffy becomes pirate king

[Albino 👑]

1. Cross guild literally states they’re not fighting the other emperors. Buggy just thinks they can get there first and since he knows the locations of 3 Poneglyphs he can do that.
2. Luffy and the wg are already on a collision course. The wg isn’t going to let luffys subordinates kill a CD and not suffer consequences for 4 arcs. Especially when Luffy is set up to fight a gorosei this arc.
3. Luffy just won’t be pirate king till after the final war then.
4. See Above
5. Zoro trained specifically to surpass mihawk. Why is this a reason mihawk wont be the final fight.
6. They won’t. It’ll be the same arc.

This is just a lot of speculation, you should admit there’s one thing oda won’t do and that’s make a SH dream pointless by having Zoro gain the title WSS but not actually be the WSS cause that’s just horrible story telling

No offense but im not listening to anyone that genuinely believes crocodile can beat an admiral is comparable to mihawk and will be beaten by sanji

1. Mihawk and cross guild aren't going to get the one piece and make buggy pirate king at all especially without interacting with zoro and the strawhats
   • Dont know why yall refuse to acknowledge that anyone but luffy and the strawhats winning the race to the one piece is also an L for the entire crew zoro included
2. ...? Cross guild isn't going down after imu and the world government lol
3. By beating pirate king buggy? Lol
4. To that point ???
5. Because zoro isn't going to be fighting someone completely irrelevant to the world government while luffy fights imu and the rest are fighting relevant antagonists under him

BB could fight with Shanks, and Luffy with BB. This scenario doesnt involve the CG, they could get the RP and move straight to Raftel and meet there with SHs while the WG/Imu tries to stop them.

Either we like it or not Buggy will have a huge part and Oda wont have him going down so soon.

Cross guild getting the one piece is them beating the strawhats
They aren't beating the strawhats. They're going to have to interact with the other emperors either way if they want to get it

That logic applies to all the emperors

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No offense but im not listening to anyone that genuinely believes crocodile can beat an admiral is comparable to mihawk and will be beaten by sanji

1. Mihawk and cross guild aren't going to get the one piece and make buggy pirate king at all especially without interacting with zoro and the strawhats
   • Dont know why yall refuse to acknowledge that anyone but luffy and the strawhats winning the race to the one piece is also an L for the entire crew zoro included
2. ...? Cross guild isn't going down after imu and the world government lol
3. By beating pirate king buggy? Lol
4. To that point ???
5. Because zoro isn't going to be fighting someone completely irrelevant to the world government while luffy fights imu and the rest are fighting relevant antagonists under him

Cross guild getting the one piece is them beating the strawhats
They aren't beating the strawhats. They're going to have to interact with the other emperors either way if they want to get it

That logic applies to all the emperors

The amount of hate you have for crocodile is nuts lmao.

1. Why not? Buggys always been one step in front of Luffy and his biggest rival. Buggy getting there first is just par for the course for the manga then luffy taking it from buggy.

2. After imu no, but the world governments weakening now. They ain’t lasting 4 more arcs with the Revs starving the CDs, no warlords, and luffy and the main straw hats fighting an admiral and gorosei this arc. It’s like Mr. 3 going down then having Ennies Lobby before Alabasta.

Mihawk literally has to be Zoros final bout. There’s no other way around it so you can hate it all you want, but cross guild will claim the one piece and buggy will be seen as the king of the world.

 

[Mathias]

Imu will hire Crossguild, so Mihawk will indeed work for the WG again

And then they will buy the Revolutionary's market stocks and own them

 

[gz89]

No offense but im not listening to anyone that genuinely believes crocodile can beat an admiral is comparable to mihawk and will be beaten by sanji

1. Mihawk and cross guild aren't going to get the one piece and make buggy pirate king at all especially without interacting with zoro and the strawhats
   • Dont know why yall refuse to acknowledge that anyone but luffy and the strawhats winning the race to the one piece is also an L for the entire crew zoro included
2. ...? Cross guild isn't going down after imu and the world government lol
3. By beating pirate king buggy? Lol
4. To that point ???
5. Because zoro isn't going to be fighting someone completely irrelevant to the world government while luffy fights imu and the rest are fighting relevant antagonists under him

Cross guild getting the one piece is them beating the strawhats
They aren't beating the strawhats. They're going to have to interact with the other emperors either way if they want to get it

That logic applies to all the emperors

You have stuck on the CG have to defeat the SHs while im saying something different.

SHs, CG and WG can be at the same time on Raftel.

Stop thinking about Mihawk for a minute and try to see the bigger picture which is Buggy. Every time he said something it happened.

 

[Albino 👑]

The amount of hate you have for crocodile is nuts lmao.

1. Why not? Buggys always been one step in front of Luffy and his biggest rival. Buggy getting there first is just par for the course for the manga then luffy taking it from buggy.

2. After imu no, but the world governments weakening now. They ain’t lasting 4 more arcs with the Revs starving the CDs, no warlords, and luffy and the main straw hats fighting an admiral and gorosei this arc. It’s like Mr. 3 going down then having Ennies Lobby before Alabasta.

Mihawk literally has to be Zoros final bout. There’s no other way around it so you can hate it all you want, but cross guild will claim the one piece and buggy will be seen as the king of the world.

1. You can say the same exact thing about blackbeard. There is no point of anyone but the strawhats getting the one piece when as soon as they get it the strawhats are going to beat them anyway...
2. So the strawhats will still defeat cross guild before the final war. Cant wait for you to explain why saturn or kizaru is the mr. 3 to mihawk and crocodiles mr. 1 and 2 because zoro and sanji defeated them after

True buggy will become king of the pirates get beaten by luffy so he can get the title. Not only that buggy will become the king of the world before imu is even taken out because obviously
With zoro beating mihawk when luffy beats buggy aka before the final battle but also during the final battle

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You have stuck on the CG have to defeat the SHs while im saying something different.

SHs, CG and WG can be at the same time on Raftel.

Stop thinking about Mihawk for a minute and try to see the bigger picture which is Buggy. Every time he said something it happened.

Even if cross guild doesn't interact with any of the other emperors them getting the one piece means they won aka beat them

I guess blackbeard will also get the one piece and become pirate king

 

[gz89]

1. You can say the same exact thing about blackbeard. There is no point of anyone but the strawhats getting the one piece when as soon as they get it the strawhats are going to beat them anyway...
2. So the strawhats will still defeat cross guild before the final war. Cant wait for you to explain why saturn or kizaru is the mr. 3 to mihawk and crocodiles mr. 1 and 2 because zoro and sanji defeated them after

True buggy will become king of the pirates get beaten by luffy so he can get the title. Not only that buggy will become the king of the world before imu is even taken out because obviously
With zoro beating mihawk when luffy beats buggy aka before the final battle but also during the final battle

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Even if cross guild doesn't interact with any of the other emperors them getting the one piece means they won aka beat them

I guess blackbeard will also get the one piece and become pirate king

Or you know, CG SHs and WG (even BBP) meets at Raftel and when Luffy defeats Imu, Buggy takes all the glory as usual.

 

[Monkey D Al]

And then they will buy the Revolutionary's market stocks and own them

Nami better jump on that train or she will loose some serious money

 

[mmd]

1. Why not? Buggys always been one step in front of Luffy and his biggest rival. Buggy getting there first is just par for the course for the manga then luffy taking it from buggy.

Shanks also claims that One Piece wants why Shanks doesn't become king???
If Buggy becomes king, Oda will be the worst writer in the world, because Oda himself already said that Luffy will become king..Then, how does Buggy want to translate Poneglyph??

 

[Sir Yasheen]

1. You can say the same exact thing about blackbeard. There is no point of anyone but the strawhats getting the one piece when as soon as they get it the strawhats are going to beat them anyway...
2. So the strawhats will still defeat cross guild before the final war. Cant wait for you to explain why saturn or kizaru is the mr. 3 to mihawk and crocodiles mr. 1 and 2 because zoro and sanji defeated them after

True buggy will become king of the pirates get beaten by luffy so he can get the title. Not only that buggy will become the king of the world before imu is even taken out because obviously
With zoro beating mihawk when luffy beats buggy aka before the final battle but also during the final battle

1. The Blackbeard Pirates only gain poneglyphs by taking it from others. Theyre not trying to get there first they’re just waiting at the finish line to take the victory from someone else. It makes sense for Luffy and Blackbeard to fight since that’s BBs way of doing it. Cross guild straight up said they’re not fighting the other emperors. Why do you think they’d say that and then immediately change their mind?

And yeah cause it’s not like Imus already hiding his existence behind others?

Buggy, just like when he became a warlord was just the face for all these much stronger pirates.
Buggy, just like when he became an emperor was just the face for Crocodile and Mihawk.
Buggy can become the king of the world when Imu uses him as his new face when the gorosei all inevitably lose to the straw hats.

Mihawk is Zoros last fight. That’s the one obvious thing about the final war is that Zoro vs Mihawk is the last fight Zoro will be an underdog in.

 

[Albino 👑]

Or you know, CG SHs and WG (even BBP) meets at Raftel and when Luffy defeats Imu, Buggy takes all the glory as usual.

Hell add the red haired pirates, revolutionaries, and even all the other emperors crews
Doesn't change zoro isnt going to fight mihawk while luffy and everyone else has actual important relevant fights against the world government

Zoro has already put making luffy pirate king over his dream of beating mihawk multiple times in the story
If he can't beat mihawk to make that dream come true hes a bum

 

[gz89]

If Buggy becomes king, Oda will be the worst writer in the world,

I remember people saying exactly the same words during the one month break for the timeskip. You know what happened afterwards

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Shanks also claims that One Piece wants why Shanks doesn't become king???
If Buggy becomes king, Oda will be the worst writer in the world, because Oda himself already said that Luffy will become king..Then, how does Buggy want to translate Poneglyph??

Shanks is hunting Blackbeard right now. that’s his problem.

Why do you act like luffy can’t just take the one piece from Cross Guild and become Pirate king after?

And really, that’s your question is poneglyphs? Sukiyaki is narratively alive for a reason and we all know Cross Guild is going to end up at wano.

 

[park_min young]

I think Mihawk will definitely go down before the final war starts. That’s why he was incorporated into an Cross Guild, an active organization that could cross paths with SHs.

 

[gz89]

Shanks is hunting Blackbeard right now. that’s his problem.

Why do you act like luffy can’t just take the one piece from Cross Guild and become Pirate king after?

And really, that’s your question is poneglyphs? Sukiyaki is narratively alive for a reason and we all know Cross Guild is going to end up at wano.

Well its another one of Albino's camouflage bait threads that Mihawk is weak after all.

Fuck Mihawk and Croco and if they are strong or not.
Buggy will steal all the glory as usual but people refuse to accept it.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Well its another one of Albino's camouflage bait threads that Mihawk is weak after all.

Fuck Mihawk and Croco and if they are strong or not.
Buggy will steal all the glory as usual but people refuse to accept it.

Yeah anyone who discounts buggys importance tk the story is in for disappointment

 

[gz89]

Yeah anyone who discounts buggys importance tk the story is in for disappointment

Exactly.
Buggy could have Arlong and Don Krieg instead of Mihawk and Croco and i could still say he will end up as a king.

 

[mmd]

Shanks is hunting Blackbeard right now. that’s his problem.

Why do you act like luffy can’t just take the one piece from Cross Guild and become Pirate king after?

And really, that’s your question is poneglyphs? Sukiyaki is narratively alive for a reason and we all know Cross Guild is going to end up at wano.

And are you telling me that Luffy is going to fight Buggy after characters like Doffy, Kata, and Kaido?
So the Cross Guild attacks wano and why should the samurai cooperate with the Cross Guild?
Shanks is hunted by bb, and why shouldn't Cross Guild be hunted by Zoro?
Why do people act as if Oda has dementia?
Also, Teach and his crew are supposed to defeat Shanks, Garp, and Law in one day, but they let the Cross Guild get to raftel?
Who will the rest of Luffy's crew fight?
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I remember people saying exactly the same words during the one month break for the timeskip. You know what happened afterwards

This had nothing to do with Buggy, Oda wanted to tie Mihawk into the story

 

[Sir Yasheen]

And are you telling me that Luffy is going to fight Buggy after characters like Doffy, Kata, and Kaido?
So the Cross Guild attacks wano and why should the samurai cooperate with the Cross Guild?
Shanks is hunted by bb, and why shouldn't Cross Guild be hunted by Zoro?
Why do people act as if Oda has dementia?
Also, Teach and his crew are supposed to defeat Shanks, Garp, and Law in one day, but they let the Cross Guild get to raftel?
Who will the rest of Luffy's crew fight?

Buggys always just a face of a stronger power. As the world government is weakening (already happening) Imu is going to need a new organization to lead to maintain power. And Utopia is a country that’s going to have higher military might than the World Government.

Cross Guild attacks wano, and Buggy mentions those of the Kozuki know how to read the Poneglyph, and they attempt to kidnap Momo. Sukiyaki offers to take his place as Momo is the shogun of wano and can’t read the Poneglyphs.

Shanks hunts Blackbeard while the Straw hats are in Elbaf.
Kuzans probably going to be too weak after fighting Garp for the Shanks fight, so he’ll sit out, but the rest are just fine. Blackbeard heals quickly like luffy so he’ll be fine in a day or two while sailing.

While the straw hats are exploring Elbaf and the Blackbeard Pirates recuperating after Shanks, Cross Guild takes the Wano, Zou, and WCI Poneglyph.

There are many individuals the other straw hats could fight. The underworld emperors a prime example.

But in the end, Zoro isn’t fighting a different swordsman as the underdog after beating mihawk. That just doesn’t make sense.

 

[gz89]

This had nothing to do with Buggy, Oda wanted to tie Mihawk into the story

If he wanted Mihawk into the story he could have gone with many ways e.g he could stay as the only Warlord with a pardon from the WG.

The moment Buggy said that he wants to become the PK it was confirmed that he would stay in the story till the end.
He will reach Raftel and he might not end up as the actual PK but as the face of the new WG and the real leader could be Vivi or something similar idk but whenever Buggy says something it has happened.

People were mad at Oda for making him Warlord 10y ago, people were mad when be became a Yonko and people will also be mad when he becomes PK or King of the new world.

 

[mmd]

If he wanted Mihawk into the story he could have gone with many ways e.g could stay as the only Warlord with a pardon from the WG.

The moment Buggy said that he wants to become the PK it was confirmed that he would stay in the story till the end.
He will reach Raftel and he might not end up as the actual PK but as the face of the new WG and the real leader could be Vivi or something similar idk but whenever Buggy says something it has happened.

People were mad at Oda for making him Warlord 10y ago, people were mad when be became a Yonko and people will also be mad when he becomes PK or King of the new world.

Mihawk is a bored person and has been portrayed as a swordsman since the beginning...He never showed interest in anything but sword fighting
Oda always differentiates between Luffy and Zoro's enemies, that's why Mihawk didn't become Yonko
And even the name of Buggy Island is ironic...Luffy gave his opinion about Buggy...And at that moment everything was clear