Character Discussion Zoro second fiddle to Luffy, Sanji second fiddle to Zoro, other SHs second fiddle to Sanji

[Peroroncino]

It really is a hard pill to swallow, so take your time. You got a lot of freetime now that the ZKK / Sanji vs King agenda timeslots are free for other stuff.

you know they accept defeat when they cry ZKK

 

[Shikoku]

you know they accept defeat when they cry ZKK

ZKKay.

 

[Wh1p]

No. The true relevance hierarchy:
Luffy > East Blue crewmates > Grand Line crewmates

 

[notAfanboy]

Currently, Sanji is not even #3 good character in SHs (I don't power scale, so ignoring strength).
Oda need to stop the gag, it is disgusting and cringe.
I used to like Sanji, but Oda has already ruined his character with bs gags.

 

[Herrera95]

Hard to swallow for most of you, but that's how it is

Relevancy:
Luffy > Zoro > Nami > other SHs

Strength:
Zoro > Luffy > Jinbei > other SHs

Hierarchy:
Luffy > Zoro > Nami > other SHs

Etc

Just corrected your comment. No need to thank me.

 

[Salah WG]

In their Base Forms: (Not going All Out)

6. Weak Trio
5. Mid Trio
4. Sanji
3. Jinbe
2. Zoro
1. Luffy

But when they go all out

Usopp becomes Weakest Alone
Followed by Zeus Nami, Monster Chopper & Brook
Fallowed by Devil Robin and Franky Shogun
Followed by Sanji & Jinbe
And then All Out Non-Gear 5 Luffy & KOH Zoro

Gear 5 and Asura are Situational Forms that we need more explanation about

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

No. The true relevance hierarchy:
Luffy > East Blue crewmates > Grand Line crewmates

/thread

But every Strawhats all have their own roles and narrative.

 

[Soyz]

Oda said 3 most important SHs are Luffy, Zoro and Nami lirc. So don't sleep on them.

It's obvious Luffy is captain so most relevant but tbh, all SHs are relevant in their own way.

Zoro relevancy is clear when Nami said if they wanted to pick fight with BM they would have brought Zoro along (Remember we had both Luffy and sanji there)

Nami is navigator - her skills helped SHs sailed to the present

Sanji is cook - keeps SHs healthy

Robin will play crucial role in reading Rio

And so on...



All SHs matters equally. Saying this or that is more relevant is just so shallow perspective.

No he didnt zoro fans always bring this up when it was before other strewhats were introduced, in a later sbs he drew ussop chopper and sanji as main characters as well.
Luffy> other sh in relevancy no one is close to him.

 

[CbShadow]

I agree, this is a hard pill for some to swallow.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Luffy and Zoro
Luffy, Zoro and Nami
Luffy, Zoro and Jinbei
Everything else is filler

 

[kumae]

Zoro > the rest

 

[Psychiatrist]

This information has already confirmed the strenght hierarchy in straw hat pirates crew.
Luffy > Zoro > Sanji
No need of further discussion.

 

[Gears Kaios]

Sanji is definitely the second strongest strawhat then jinbe and Oden haki empowered Zoro

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Franky is second to none including his sentient dildo of a captain, I will gladly fist fight any of you IRL to defend this opini-no, this FACT

 

[Shasha23]

Hard to swallow for most of you, but that's how it is

Relevancy:
Luffy > Zoro > Sanji > other SHs

Strength:
Luffy > Zoro > Sanji > other SHs

Hierarchy:
Luffy > Zoro > Sanji > other SHs

Etc

WRONG

Relevancy:
Luffy > Zoro > Nami > other SHs

Strength:
Luffy > Zoro > Sanji > other SHs

Hierarchy:
Luffy > Zoro > Nami > other SHs

 

[MonsterKaido]

Relevancy:
Nami > other SHs

Are sure about that in current timeline as well as post skip? Robin is more important and sanji gets better fights and also his own personal arc.

 

[Hanners220]

I need clarification regarding the One Piece data books. Is the highest score for Adventurousness, Strength, and Intelligence a 6? If Sanji is a 5/6 for strength, then by no means is he weak. Also the Monster Trio’s intelligence score is quite concerning. Luffy and Zoro’s score isn’t surprising, however, Sanji’s score is a 3. Shouldn’t the crew tactician have a higher intelligence score?

 

[Lor D. Coast]

I need clarification regarding the One Piece data books. Is the highest score for Adventurousness, Strength, and Intelligence a 6? If Sanji is a 5/6 for strength, then by no means is he weak. Also the Monster Trio’s intelligence score is quite concerning. Luffy and Zoro’s score isn’t surprising, however, Sanji’s score is a 3. Shouldn’t the crew tactician have a higher intelligence score?

Don't worry about it, you don't need intelligence to kick someone.

 

[Shasha23]

Are sure about that in current timeline as well as post skip? Robin is more important and sanji gets better fights and also his own personal arc.

-yeap, every plot point from the beginning to now is started by either Luffy, Zoro or Nami
-Sure Robin will have a major role in the coming chapters but just you watch as she will be in a group with Luffy or Nami or Zoro, i mean even now its Luffy's group and Nami's group and Zoro's group, all other SHP even if they have to do something important and focus will be on them they will always be overshadowed by the main 3.
-Even in Sanji's arc, the driving force was Nami and Luffy, even when Oda does his where everyone is, if the SHP are split up they will be divided into Luffy's group, Nami's group or Zoro's group, you wont ever see Oda saying Sanji's group or Robin's group etc
-sure Sanji gets the 3rd best fights and thats understandable because he is the 3rd most important when it comes to fighting

 

[MonsterKaido]

-yeap, every plot point from the beginning to now is started by either Luffy, Zoro or Nami
-Sure Robin will have a major role in the coming chapters but just you watch as she will be in a group with Luffy or Nami or Zoro, i mean even now its Luffy's group and Nami's group and Zoro's group, all other SHP even if they have to do something important and focus will be on them they will always be overshadowed by the main 3.
-Even in Sanji's arc, the driving force was Nami and Luffy, even when Oda does his where everyone is, if the SHP are split up they will be divided into Luffy's group, Nami's group or Zoro's group, you wont ever see Oda saying Sanji's group or Robin's group etc
-sure Sanji gets the 3rd best fights and thats understandable because he is the 3rd most important when it comes to fighting

Driving force is there but I am not sure I will categorize with relevancy. At the end WCI is sanji's arc and fights do matter. Nami have shitty fights only. Her navigation skills are also given less importance on average. Imo sanji no doubt feels like more of a main character in post skip than nami.