Future Events Zoro vs Mihawk/Shiryu EoS is still needed?
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Did Zoro solo Pica golem? Coz he didnt destroy everything by himself.
Did Luffy solo Cracker?
Fake news about Kidd
Exaggerated news about Luffy
The world didn't even care to ask much about details.
You think the world will care if zoro soloed kaido?
All they care about is who beat (finished) and who killed kaido
Did Luffy solo Cracker?
Fake news about Kidd
Exaggerated news about Luffy
The world didn't even care to ask much about details.
You think the world will care if zoro soloed kaido?
All they care about is who beat (finished) and who killed kaido
Why ? The scabbards could injure Kaido. Oden could scar Kaido and he didn't even have a black blade like Mihawk has, so the build-up of creating a black blade is superior to scarring Kaido.
So while Zoro would scar Kaido, Luffy will be the one to beat him and destroy his "in a 1 on 1, always bet on Kaido" hype at one point(after Kaido will be weakened), ultimately overshadowing everyone. Hell it's even possible that Kid and Law(especially Kid) could get more fame depending on how their alliance with Luffy could be viewed after the arc
Yes he is, but pointless to debate about it here
So while Zoro would scar Kaido, Luffy will be the one to beat him and destroy his "in a 1 on 1, always bet on Kaido" hype at one point(after Kaido will be weakened), ultimately overshadowing everyone. Hell it's even possible that Kid and Law(especially Kid) could get more fame depending on how their alliance with Luffy could be viewed after the arc
Yes he is, but pointless to debate about it here
Again, unless you expect Zoro to solo Kaido and kill him, it's the same case. They way I can see Zoro killing Kaido would be that Kaido is already beaten up by them, whomever might fight him, like WB was, and in a last effort attempt Zoro uses his full power and rips his head off. And again achieving such a result in a team battle is not the same as in a 1 on 1.
Re-read my post sempai. I am comparing the logic being used.
And I've said Kaido's case is a bit different. But again it's a team battle. Oda can have Zoro kill Kaido while still showing Luffy doing monumental damage.
They did the most important part of the job. Zoro defeated Pica as no one else actually did damage to Pica and were powerless from him.
Luffy did beat Cracker, admittedly Nami helped him, but his greater feat was defeating Katakuri.
But that makes no sense sempai. Let's say Kaido is beaten and on the ground and suddenly Kinemon takes his sword and plunges it into Kaido's brain. Does that mean Kinemon is the strongest now? No. I am giving extreme examples to show that the feat can be done without it overshadowing EOS stuff.
Re-read my post sempai. I am comparing the logic being used.
And I've said Kaido's case is a bit different. But again it's a team battle. Oda can have Zoro kill Kaido while still showing Luffy doing monumental damage.
They did the most important part of the job. Zoro defeated Pica as no one else actually did damage to Pica and were powerless from him.
Luffy did beat Cracker, admittedly Nami helped him, but his greater feat was defeating Katakuri.
But that makes no sense sempai. Let's say Kaido is beaten and on the ground and suddenly Kinemon takes his sword and plunges it into Kaido's brain. Does that mean Kinemon is the strongest now? No. I am giving extreme examples to show that the feat can be done without it overshadowing EOS stuff.
K
Solo 1v1 and defeating Kaido, is living proof that ZORO would be> Kaido, he would be canonically above.
But when he needs the help of several people, it ends.
There will be situations that if it were 1x1, Kaido would have ended the fight, because he has no one else to hinder or help, protect, save.
There will be times that you will only be able to attack and hit because of the openings created by the other characters, while 1v1 this would not be possible or easy to do.
But when he needs the help of several people, it ends.
There will be situations that if it were 1x1, Kaido would have ended the fight, because he has no one else to hinder or help, protect, save.
There will be times that you will only be able to attack and hit because of the openings created by the other characters, while 1v1 this would not be possible or easy to do.
J
[QUOTE="Bogard, post: 889198, member: 1"]Why ? The scabbards could injure Kaido. Oden could scar Kaido and he didn't even have a black blade like Mihawk has, so the build-up of creating a black blade is superior to scarring Kaido.
So while Zoro would scar Kaido, Luffy will be the one to beat him and destroy his "in a 1 on 1, always bet on Kaido" hype at one point(after Kaido will be weakened), ultimately overshadowing everyone. Hell it's even possible that Kid and Law(especially Kid) could get more fame depending on how their alliance with Luffy could be viewed after the arc
Yes he is, but pointless to debate about it here[/QUOTE]
Ryuma is remembered more for killing the dragon which made him sword god than making black blade
Oden is hailed more for injuring Kaido , that's the highest hype and respect Oda put in his name
Killing kaido will even make zoro WSS already... it's a feat that even Mihawk hasn't done half of it.
If cutting the golem made Zoro a candidate for WSS
Now imagine, what status will zoro have .
Easily WSS status... thus beating mihawk or shiryu ain't much of tension anymore
So while Zoro would scar Kaido, Luffy will be the one to beat him and destroy his "in a 1 on 1, always bet on Kaido" hype at one point(after Kaido will be weakened), ultimately overshadowing everyone. Hell it's even possible that Kid and Law(especially Kid) could get more fame depending on how their alliance with Luffy could be viewed after the arc
Yes he is, but pointless to debate about it here[/QUOTE]
Ryuma is remembered more for killing the dragon which made him sword god than making black blade
Oden is hailed more for injuring Kaido , that's the highest hype and respect Oda put in his name
Killing kaido will even make zoro WSS already... it's a feat that even Mihawk hasn't done half of it.
If cutting the golem made Zoro a candidate for WSS
Now imagine, what status will zoro have .
Easily WSS status... thus beating mihawk or shiryu ain't much of tension anymore
-Cus Zoro has had a lot of build up in Wano.
-Never has he been more focused and connected with the citizens and important peeps on the island other than Wano, including the next rulers, Hiyori and Monosuke.
- has a personal grude now due to Yasuie (might even be a Shimotsuki himself)
- inherited Oden's will
- inherited his blade
- has more then a dozen parallels with both Oden and Ryuma
- will finish what oden started. And do a second Ryuma.
- if you check out one of the interviews and SBS it says - "the legend of a new dragon slayer might just come true".
When the supernovas get at least half of what Zoro has of his many parrelles, hints and protrayal within Wano, Oden and Ryuma, then and only then may I jump on board with SKK.
You're welcome to start any movements you want, SKK, KKK, LKK, and back it up with evidence.
Just don't make threads twisting Zoro's end goal being inferior to landing a killing blow on Kaido.
-Never has he been more focused and connected with the citizens and important peeps on the island other than Wano, including the next rulers, Hiyori and Monosuke.
- has a personal grude now due to Yasuie (might even be a Shimotsuki himself)
- inherited Oden's will
- inherited his blade
- has more then a dozen parallels with both Oden and Ryuma
- will finish what oden started. And do a second Ryuma.
- if you check out one of the interviews and SBS it says - "the legend of a new dragon slayer might just come true".
When the supernovas get at least half of what Zoro has of his many parrelles, hints and protrayal within Wano, Oden and Ryuma, then and only then may I jump on board with SKK.
You're welcome to start any movements you want, SKK, KKK, LKK, and back it up with evidence.
Just don't make threads twisting Zoro's end goal being inferior to landing a killing blow on Kaido.
Ryuma is remembered more for killing the dragon which made him sword god than making black blade
Oden is hailed more for injuring Kaido , that's the highest hype and respect Oda put in his name
Killing kaido will even make zoro WSS already... it's a feat that even Mihawk hasn't done half of it.
If cutting the golem made Zoro a candidate for WSS
Now imagine, what status will zoro have .
Easily WSS status... thus beating mihawk or shiryu ain't much of tension anymore[/QUOTE]
This is not true, Ryuma is not known more for killing a dragon. Gyukimaru literally says their are crazy amount of feats Ryuma did and said one of his many legends.
He never even said it was his best feat. It was a neg diff
Oden is hailed more for injuring Kaido , that's the highest hype and respect Oda put in his name
Killing kaido will even make zoro WSS already... it's a feat that even Mihawk hasn't done half of it.
If cutting the golem made Zoro a candidate for WSS
Now imagine, what status will zoro have .
Easily WSS status... thus beating mihawk or shiryu ain't much of tension anymore[/QUOTE]
This is not true, Ryuma is not known more for killing a dragon. Gyukimaru literally says their are crazy amount of feats Ryuma did and said one of his many legends.
He never even said it was his best feat. It was a neg diff
K
1º Solo 1v1 and defeating Kaido, is living proof that ZORO would be> Kaido, he would be canonically above.
2º But when he needs the help of several people, it ends.
3º There will be situations that if it were 1x1, Kaido would have ended the fight, because he has no one else to hinder or help, protect, save.
4º There will be times that you will only be able to attack and hit because of the openings created by the other characters, while 1v1 this would not be possible or easy to do.
5º Nobody, absolutely nobody, will be able to replicate the achievements that Kaido made alone, zoro, luffy, kid, law. None of them.
Why ?
Let's use Law as an argument, Law would do 1v9 against: Neko and INU sulongs, + Kyoshiro, Ashura, Kawamatsu, O-kiku, Kinemon, Izou?
And after that go to Luffy and zoro, kid, killer, sanji, jimbei and any other opponent that kaido will face?
Would Law have that ability? All this alone? No, that's why nobody will come out stronger than KAIDO, kaido is sealed as the best 1v1 of the work.
2º But when he needs the help of several people, it ends.
3º There will be situations that if it were 1x1, Kaido would have ended the fight, because he has no one else to hinder or help, protect, save.
4º There will be times that you will only be able to attack and hit because of the openings created by the other characters, while 1v1 this would not be possible or easy to do.
5º Nobody, absolutely nobody, will be able to replicate the achievements that Kaido made alone, zoro, luffy, kid, law. None of them.
Why ?
Let's use Law as an argument, Law would do 1v9 against: Neko and INU sulongs, + Kyoshiro, Ashura, Kawamatsu, O-kiku, Kinemon, Izou?
And after that go to Luffy and zoro, kid, killer, sanji, jimbei and any other opponent that kaido will face?
Would Law have that ability? All this alone? No, that's why nobody will come out stronger than KAIDO, kaido is sealed as the best 1v1 of the work.