Character Discussion Zoro vs Sanji who helped more Wano/the alliance more
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Yeah its pain in the a*s look someone done already with their exam then they just take a nap or go home faster then us.
I think Oda got to nerfed Zoro a little because looks like he almost achieved his goal.
He already got a sword which can cut through kaido skin which no other weapon can do that, he already got CoC infused with CoA which only top tier fighter can use it. And later i dont know how they will fight greenbull, but i think its wont be a good talk after see what happen to King and Queen. I believe zoro will contributed a lot because Greenbull got sharp type attack which is luffy dont really good to deal with.
Lets see how this will happen in august
I think Oda got to nerfed Zoro a little because looks like he almost achieved his goal.
He already got a sword which can cut through kaido skin which no other weapon can do that, he already got CoC infused with CoA which only top tier fighter can use it. And later i dont know how they will fight greenbull, but i think its wont be a good talk after see what happen to King and Queen. I believe zoro will contributed a lot because Greenbull got sharp type attack which is luffy dont really good to deal with.
Lets see how this will happen in august
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Let me doubt it. The ones who saved Tama were Nami and Usopp. But let's be generous and accept it.
Do you know who also saved Tama? Exactly Zoro.
Right, my fault. I forgot.
Do you know who also saved Chopper? Exactly Zoro. And twice, giving him the antidote and saving him from Queen's attack.
Sorry, I already fixed it.
Zoro:
That is a different topic. But as much as they knew what was coming, they had no time to dodge it. That time is what Zoro bought. Face it.
By the way, Zoro also knew what was coming, but instead of running for his life, he thought of saving the others.
At least you have chosen a path more intelligent than the rest. But neither for those Sanji wins this time.
It may be the Samurai's bow, but it's not Zoro's bow. The problem is not Zoro's or Oda's, the problem is yours for expecting unrealistic things.
Also, if you really believed that Zoro was going to lead the Samurai by becoming his hero of her own free will, I'm sorry to tell you that you don't know Zoro.
Luffy and Zoro are two characters that, except for their personality, are like two drops of water. Their way of thinking, acting and their values are the same. It has been proven many times. It is impossible that Zoro sought to lead the Samurai or become a new Ryuma. That would be a shit on Oda's part.
Do you know who also saved Tama? Exactly Zoro.
Right, my fault. I forgot.
Do you know who also saved Chopper? Exactly Zoro. And twice, giving him the antidote and saving him from Queen's attack.
Sorry, I already fixed it.
Zoro:
- Zoro saved Tama from Hawkins.
- Zoro obtained the weapons for the allies. Without weapons they would do little.
- Zoro saved Luffy's butt from Apoo in the raid. Luffy is the most important member of the alliance, much more than Momo.
- He got the antidote from the Korioni. Without him all the allies would be Ko.
- Zoro saved Chopper from Korioni and Queen.
- Zoro saved Luffy's butt from Mom in roof. Luffy is the most important member of the alliance, much more than Momo.
- Zoro once again saved Luffy's butt from Kaido's Borobreath. Luffy is the most important member of the alliance, much more than Momo.
- Zoro once again saved Luffy's butt from Big Mom's HaHa no Mi. Luffy is the most important member of the alliance, much more than Momo.
- Zoro pulled Luffy out of Kaido's jaws. Luffy is the most important member of the alliance, much more than Momo.
- Zoro saved Luffy's, Kid's, Law's and Killer's butt. The first three much more important than Momo for the Alliance.
- Zoro was part of the plan to separate Kaido and Big Mom. The most crucial part to have a minimal chance of victory.
- Once again Zoro saved Luffy from being torn to pieces by Kaido, injuring the latter. Luffy is the most important member of the alliance, much more than Momo.
- And last but not least, he defeated King, the 2 strongest.
- Sanji rescued Momo.
- Sanji saved Tama from Queen.
- Sanji saved Chopper from Queen.
- Sanji defeated Queen, the 3 strongest.
That is a different topic. But as much as they knew what was coming, they had no time to dodge it. That time is what Zoro bought. Face it.
By the way, Zoro also knew what was coming, but instead of running for his life, he thought of saving the others.
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At least you have chosen a path more intelligent than the rest. But neither for those Sanji wins this time.
- The question is who has been more important for the alliance? Not who the Samurai "prefer". The alliance is the Muguiwara, Heart Pirates, Kid Pirates, Samurai and Minks. And importance has nothing to do with recognition.
- Even if we put ourselves in the case of Who do the Samurai "prefer"? Sanji keeps losing. As you said, the one who rescued Momo is O-Soba Mask, not Sanji. And although they have seen Sanji when he hit Queen a couple of times, then they also separated, Zoro helped them against a Number, gave them the Korioni antidote, they witnessed his fury against Queen and also saw him a few clashes against King as well that Sanji. Not to mention that Hyogoro and Kawamatsu hold Zoro in high regard.
It may be the Samurai's bow, but it's not Zoro's bow. The problem is not Zoro's or Oda's, the problem is yours for expecting unrealistic things.
Also, if you really believed that Zoro was going to lead the Samurai by becoming his hero of her own free will, I'm sorry to tell you that you don't know Zoro.
Luffy and Zoro are two characters that, except for their personality, are like two drops of water. Their way of thinking, acting and their values are the same. It has been proven many times. It is impossible that Zoro sought to lead the Samurai or become a new Ryuma. That would be a shit on Oda's part.
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1. We are talking about onigashima. I did not count wano feats for sanji.
2. Zoro ? who gave zoro ? are u kidding me ?
3. Killer said trick of Apoos DF. Please do not laugh me .
4. relatively true.
5. chopper saved himself by making antitode. Also , zoro interacted with queen just one time . and this is not related with chopper.
6-7-8-9-10-11-12 . Zoro alwaysh took help from Law to save Luffy in most of the actions. Just zoro saved luffy two times without help. You are counting following panel as two save.d Also boro blast do not affect lufffy how did you count save ?
On the other hand , zoro was saved three times.
Law saved him.
Sanji saved him.
Franky saved him.
2. Zoro ? who gave zoro ? are u kidding me ?
3. Killer said trick of Apoos DF. Please do not laugh me .
4. relatively true.
5. chopper saved himself by making antitode. Also , zoro interacted with queen just one time . and this is not related with chopper.
6-7-8-9-10-11-12 . Zoro alwaysh took help from Law to save Luffy in most of the actions. Just zoro saved luffy two times without help. You are counting following panel as two save.d Also boro blast do not affect lufffy how did you count save ?
On the other hand , zoro was saved three times.
Law saved him.
Sanji saved him.
Franky saved him.
Your problem.
Who delivered them? And on top of that he found them without getting lost.
Irrelevant. Zoro is still the one who defeated him.
How generous. Don't let the double yardstick be noticed.
Review the manga.
Even so Zoro is still a fundamental part. It's more. Ehhh but then let's also remove Sanji by saving Momo, he received help from Shinobu. Perfect, if we remove this I think the debate is over. assume it
On the other hand , zoro was saved three times.
Two of those are true. So what? That contributes to the importance of Law and Franky. It makes no sense in this debate. By the way, Sanji was saved by a geisha.
And besides, Sanji didn't save Zoro. It was Law and Chopper. It's just a funny gag, Law could have left him directly with chopper. Also, Sanji used Zoro as a weapon, technically Zoro saved him too.
Who delivered them? And on top of that he found them without getting lost.
Irrelevant. Zoro is still the one who defeated him.
How generous. Don't let the double yardstick be noticed.
Review the manga.
Even so Zoro is still a fundamental part. It's more. Ehhh but then let's also remove Sanji by saving Momo, he received help from Shinobu. Perfect, if we remove this I think the debate is over. assume it
On the other hand , zoro was saved three times.
Two of those are true. So what? That contributes to the importance of Law and Franky. It makes no sense in this debate. By the way, Sanji was saved by a geisha.
And besides, Sanji didn't save Zoro. It was Law and Chopper. It's just a funny gag, Law could have left him directly with chopper. Also, Sanji used Zoro as a weapon, technically Zoro saved him too.
Kawamatsu.
Yes Drake and Zoro defeated Apoo . Very fair.
Please show me panel . When did Zoro save chopper :) Just gave antitode :) How come this is pure save :)
Without teleportation , it is not important how much attemps zoro tried. This is the facts. Most of time , Law played huge role for save actions.
Sanji did save Zoro. When chopper try to cure Zoro , Sanji protected Zoro for a while . Not even short time. Also , he took both calamaties for a short time . I forgot to say. Also marco saved zoros life either. Dude , are u kidding me ? Law gave zoro to chopper . So who protected them ? you ?
As a result , until luffy shine , oda made zoro and sanji mvp of roof and underroof. I dont underestimated zoros actions however just we need to say facts . Based on you , Zoro did everythin himself on the roof. This is huge lie. Yes , zoro is the mvp of roof however he got important help from Law . Zor got King , how ? chopper , sanji and marco provided time , cure and safe zone . When sanjis bones were broken , did u see sanji took any help ?
Also , Momo is the raid leader . Not Luffy.
Yes Drake and Zoro defeated Apoo . Very fair.
Please show me panel . When did Zoro save chopper :) Just gave antitode :) How come this is pure save :)
Without teleportation , it is not important how much attemps zoro tried. This is the facts. Most of time , Law played huge role for save actions.
Sanji did save Zoro. When chopper try to cure Zoro , Sanji protected Zoro for a while . Not even short time. Also , he took both calamaties for a short time . I forgot to say. Also marco saved zoros life either. Dude , are u kidding me ? Law gave zoro to chopper . So who protected them ? you ?
As a result , until luffy shine , oda made zoro and sanji mvp of roof and underroof. I dont underestimated zoros actions however just we need to say facts . Based on you , Zoro did everythin himself on the roof. This is huge lie. Yes , zoro is the mvp of roof however he got important help from Law . Zor got King , how ? chopper , sanji and marco provided time , cure and safe zone . When sanjis bones were broken , did u see sanji took any help ?
Also , Momo is the raid leader . Not Luffy.
