Character Discussion ZorovSanjivOda

[trav]

There’s no doubt that at on point oda was planning to have zoro and sanji to be nigh equal

never was this the case. it was made perfectly clear from the very beginning of the story that Sanji lacks ambitions in comparison to Zoro and Luffy.
if you have a different opinion then you are part of the cancer that reasonable fans try to fight.

And the prove is the parallel with the two giants in little garden

okay, catching the same sized dinosaur (both neg diff material, but w/e) is a prove, but WP Zoro and Luffy fighting each other to standstill means nothing.
big brain reasoning.

It’s clear as day that oda has changed his mind since the strawhats seperation

no. just no.
this has always been the case. this did not change.
one of Sanjis most badass moments in all of the story happened after he was knocked out cold for HALF of the entire arc by a single attack.
let stuff like this sink in.

So in oda’s mind CLEARLY zoro>sanji

again, no surprise there. this was established a long time ago.

or it’s just frustration that sanji will always be behind zoro ??

basically.
the thought pattern is this
> weak character = irrelevant
> Sanji weaker than Zoro means Sanji less relevant
> completely igoring any other aspect of the character
they also do not dare to compare Sanji to Luffy so instead they try to drag down Zoro to Sanjis level instead.

s it because sanji’s fans always trying to put him and zoro together to make sanji looks good by association

its annoying as hell.
Sanji fans are the kids that go "yeah, your club house may be cool, but just wait for the club house I am going to build!".
what I mean is that they always act like Sanji can do something he has never been shown to be able to and act like he can outdo other characters only because hes Sanji and because hes strong and fast and blah blah blah. barf that. actions speak louder than words.
annoying pests and jerks. insecure to boot with a disability to accept defeat.

but they also don’t believe enough in zoro

MEEEEEPPPP!!! WRONG!
imagine you had a little kid brother that always comes in and throws a tantrum while you try to relax.
that is how it feels to be a Zoro fan.
they are ANNOYED and want to be left alone by Sanji fans idiocy. that is all there is to it.

But I don’t see luffy’s fans attacking zoro

Luffy is a safe haven. hes the MC. he untouchable.
according to Luffy fans.
but once you dare compare Zoro with Luffy they go mental.
anyways, Luffy fans clearly have no reason to be defensive about Luffy. he will always shine. that is a given.
also, Luffy rarely gets shat on storywise while Sanji does.

They think they’re accomplishing something by trolling sanji’s fans

trust me. Zoro fans wish as much for the Sanji fans to stop as anyone else.

keeping this dumb feud alive by adding flame to it .

he never did. you are plain wrong here, sorry.
Oda only ever fueled the pointless bickering and petty squabbles. thats it.
power wise there was never a question that Zoro was vastly superior. in ambition as in ability.
Zoro is a destined top tier. this is the reality.

very ironic that the most childish character (luffy) has the most grown up fans

you do not even know what it means to grow up.
I know I am being patronizing here. point still stands.

 

[Zolo]

The best part about one piece is Sanji V Zoro

 

[stealthblack]

I woudl wait for eos and end of wano at least. if zoro gets like 2 billion and sanji only 1 billion, then it0s over. but even beating a calamity is enough to get sanji 1,5 +

 

[wereng99]

Sanji has enough portrayal to at least be a mid diff fight for Zoro. As for feats, let him first get his proper 1v1 in the new world which he hasn't till now. Just wait for SvQ or SvK to happen till then.

for protrayal sake i guess midd diff is reasonable.

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I woudl wait for eos and end of wano at least. if zoro gets like 2 billion and sanji only 1 billion, then it0s over. but even beating a calamity is enough to get sanji 1,5 +

if you think so then, what bounty zoro would get from fighting yonkos?

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Luffy > Zoro >~ Sanji

Then, Now and ever

nah dude luffy=sanji>>zoro why sudden change of heart?

 

[Finalbeta]

I concur that the OP is behaving in a very hypocritical fashion.

In general these kinds of threads only nourish what OP claims to want to stop and I don't mean just in this thread funnily, in general.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

I concur that the OP is behaving in a very hypocritical fashion.

In general these kinds of threads only nourish what OP claims to want to stop and I don't mean just in this thread funnily, in general.

Says that op community is toxic, opens up a poll to decide which fanbase is most toxic which is toxic behaviour in it self.

 

[Finalbeta]

Says that op community is toxic, opens up a poll to decide which fanbase is most toxic which is toxic behaviour in it self.

It seems like so. :kizabat:

 

[sneko]

Oh!! so you just notice now, how mysterious? why don't you suck it up Mr grown-up and deal with it like the adult you say you are.

 

[Rukusho]

Stopped reading here
Your reading comprehension ability is that of a gold fish.

Zoro stomps Sanji, then now and forever and this is coming from biggest Sanji diehard fanboy on the forum q

Yo I’m dead

I stopped reading there too.

The second your reading comprehension throughout One piece is telling you Zoro = Sanji anywhere in the manga I’m throwing out your argument.

 

[trav]

become a Zoro fan now.
otherwise you are really missing out on some great fun.

you know you want it too.
deep down inside you know it.

do not try to fight it.
why fight something so glorious?
your life will improve once you let Zoro into your heart.

where Zoro resides there is no hate.
only naps.
and everyone loves a good nap.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

become a Zoro fan now.
otherwise you are really missing out on some great fun.

you know you want it too.
deep down inside you know it.

do not try to fight it.
why fight something so glorious?
your life will improve once you let Zoro into your heart.

where Zoro resides there is no hate.
only naps.
and everyone loves a good nap.

Lol you tripping

 

[trav]

Lol you tripping

you would do well to accept Zoro.
imagine all your pent up bitterness is washed away in a heartbeat.

how great life could be if you stopped resisting.

what you are doing, noodle-kun, is not healthy.
it is taking a toll on your sanity already.

worshipping Zoro is not an easy way out. its the only way out of your self inflicted misery.
do it.
become one of us.

we are not a cult. we are reason. we are friends.
Zoro is truth.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

you would do well to accept Zoro.
imagine all your pent up bitterness is washed away in a heartbeat.

how great life could be if you stopped resisting.

what you are doing, noodle-kun, is not healthy.
it is taking a toll on your sanity already.

worshipping Zoro is not an easy way out. its the only way out of your self inflicted misery.
do it.
become one of us.

we are not a cult. we are reason. we are friends.
Zoro is truth.

Zoro is truth, Zoro is love. Convert to Zoroism to relief from all your mental and physical pain.
:cheers:

 

[trav]

Zoro is truth, Zoro is love. Convert to Zoroism to relief from all your mental and physical pain.
:cheers:

in times of social isolation and declining mental health among a large part of the worlds population, Zoroism is the beacon of hope to guide us all through these dark times.

it give us the strength we need to carry on.
a sense of direction. of purpose.

its a miracle, I tell you. become part of it.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

No disrespect but it’s very hard to actually have a discussion with someone like
you because you’re clearly blinded by your love for zoro
you’re not making any sense

but I will answer you only this time
And no more because its a waste of time

Let’s begin

Okay
Pre TS Arlong Stomped Sanji
Arlong was shitting his pants against Zoro
Which makes sense cuz Luffy defeated Arlong mid/high diff and Luffy and Zoro were equals an arc later.
Arlong Park Luffy = Zoro > Arlong >> Sanji
Luffy and zoro were never equal NEVER
that fight was a gag fight
If you took that fight seriously then you have to take the “fights” that zoro and sanji had have countless times seriously
And by the way nami>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>luffy and zoro because she one shotted the both of them

Its a GAG fight

it’s been so long since i read the arlong arc but I don’t remember him shitting his pants seeing zoro

he was surprised zoro was still alive with that wound mihawk gave him

And even IF
Arlong shat his pants seeing zoro
How does that prove zoro stomping sanji ??????
zoro was a well known pirate hunter
And sanji was unknown , he didn’t know who sanji was

still pretty sure arlong was just surprised zoro was alive with that wound
And wasn’t like omg thats zoro ahhhhhhhhhh god save us from the grandmaster

Soooooooo
No proof was given

NEXT
Mr2 was a low diff fight for Mr1, dude couldn't even damage him with a direct kick. Sanji and Mr2 had a chapter titled "Equal Fight" meanwhile Zoro was constantly overpowering Mr1's stance and only was overpowered due to durability of Mr1 until he became even stronger. Shi Shi Son Son increases Zoro's speed and lethality. Zoro one shots someone 100s of times more durable than Sanjji wtih Shi Shi Son Son, how is Sanji gonna survive? Low diff win for Zoro.
how did you come to the conclusion that mr2 was a low diff fight for mr1 ?
because he kicked him once and did no damage??
How does that even make sense?
when they faced each others at the cafe they were portrayed as very close, actually mr2 imo won that little exchange but whatever

how did you know mr1 was 100 times more durable than sanji ???

in their little skimish mr1 and mr2 were portrayed to be close
Both zoro and sanji defeated their opponents with around the same difficulty

no stomping here
again no proof was given

Next
In Skypea Sanji had to tag team where Luffy doing the main job to defeat Satori where as Zoro defeated Ohm, someone who would mid diff Satori at worst. Zoro has now added a RANGED MOVE to his arsenal that can one shot Sanji. How is Sanji gonna survive?
Low diff win for Zoro.

by that logic

Since luffy had to triple team satori
And since
ohm>satori
zoro>ohm
That means zoro should casually one shot 3luffy’s at once

does that make sense to you??? Nah
They tripled team him because of the mantara that was unknown to them at the time

How did you know that ranged attack can one shot sanji ?????????

No stomping here
Again no proof was given

NEXT
Enies Lobby was the only arc where Sanji gives Zoro mid diff but again once Zoro goes Ashura, he no diffs DJ Sanji.


Saying zoro goes ashura gg sanji hahaha
Is not a proof

the difference between their opponents is 2 regular marine soldiers
And they both beat their opponents with around the same difficulty

there is no stomping here
AGAIN NO PROOF WAS GIVEN


you gave me zero proof to back that stupid claim of yours
all i heard was headcannon
You may as well just said hahahahaha grandmaster zoro zomg sanji suck haha you’re a poppy head 😂

that’s why it’s pointless to have a discussion with fanboys

Holy shit then man needs to be checked wtf is wrong with him?

 

[Rekien]

Luffy > Zoro >~ Sanji

Then, Now and ever

actualy its

Luffy>~Zoro>>>>>Sanji

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Some of y'all in this thread make me look like Albert Einstein in comparison even though I'm just 17 years old LOL.

OT:
Fanbases are usually cringed because of their retarded fandom wars. Nothing new. Whether Zoro is stronger than Sanji or Sanji is stronger than Zoro, they will always be close. Oda never say Zoro is stronger than Sanji nor Sanji is stronger than Zoro. Some clowns would say Zoro would high diff Sanji or less. Same goes for Sanji high diff against Zoro or less. Most people would say Zoro would win because it's common sense and I have nothing against that. Luffy > Zoro > Sanji with Zoro and Sanji closer to each other. Always has been like that and will never change whether your feelings gets hurt or not.No one cares about y'all ape monkey brains if y'all can't handle one simple structure like that.


P.S
Lolda is garbage.

 

[Finalbeta]

Lol you tripping

He is just showing you a path of joy and you repay him with such inconsistent rudeness.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Some of y'all in this thread make me look like Albert Einstein in comparison even though I'm just 17 years old LOL.

OT:
Fanbases are usually cringed because of their retarded fandom wars. Nothing new. Whether Zoro is stronger than Sanji or Sanji is stronger than Zoro, they will always be close. Oda never say Zoro is stronger than Sanji nor Sanji is stronger than Zoro. Some clowns would say Zoro would high diff Sanji or less. Same goes for Sanji high diff against Zoro or less. Most people would say Zoro would win because it's common sense and I have nothing against that. Luffy > Zoro > Sanji with Zoro and Sanji closer to each other. Always has been like that and will never change whether your feelings gets hurt or not.No one cares about y'all ape monkey brains if y'all can't handle one simple structure like that.


P.S
Lolda is garbage.

Spoiler: Zoro>sanji always.

Ps. Oda is bae

 

[executor partner]

This is the problem is that he changed his mind mid way
He should never started this rivalry in the first place

What rivalry? It has always been nothing but a gag