Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

[Kuro Ashi]

Well, yeah, different traits and strengths, like Yoru probably has better range and AoE effect because of it's size and how Mihawk uses it. But it doesn't make a single blade better than others in every way, so i don't think Ryuma would be stronger with Enma instead of Shusui.

Ryuma could do things with Enma that he could not with Shusui if he would have mastered the blade because of what makes it special though.

Also, arguably at a base level Enma is straigh out better, since it's same grade as Shusui even while not a Black Blade, and was said to become the heighest grade once turned Black.

 

[Indigo]

Didn’t all of the scabbards other than Kiku avoid Kaido’s wind blades?

Actually no, the panel only seems to imply that a bunch of wind slices were flying around everywhere with bad aim, they didn't even move when they were released. But it seems only one of them hits Okiku, she/he tries to block it but isn't able to, here's the panel, notice how they all stand still during the slices flying.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

- Kaidou senses Oden in Zoro's sword.

This is interesting.

It's possible that Oden's Haki is still lingering in Enma ?

Could be hints towards the process of making a Black Blade, seeing how prior to Onigashima Oden and Enma were brought to our attention in that context.

We know this. Yea Swordsman will are in swords. Thats been stated 800 chapters ago.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

When all you do is list feats for a Yonko and someone calls you a yanker.


Some of you really do be insecure huh

 

[Finalbeta]

Btw, Why is no one targeting BM? It's almost as if they don't even care about her existence lmao

Not sure why she didn't attempt to use her soul powers more consistently so far. Maybe she doesn't feel too "invested" yet so far.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Actually no, the panel only seems to imply that a bunch of wind slices were flying around everywhere with bad aim, they didn't even move when they were released. But it seems only one of them hits Okiku, she/he tries to block it but isn't able to, here's the panel, notice how they all stand still during the slices flying.

They dodged his lightning though, and lightning should be faster than wind. I mean, I think it’s more plausible that they dodged and/or countered than Kaido just missing all of his attacks.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

The slash that is faster than Snakeman.

that attack is sound speed

 

[KiriNigiri]

I think we've found the possible title for the next volume.

"Yonkou Vs. New generation"

Everything spanning the recent chapters have been about this confrontation, from build up to current events. We've seen a bit of what each side is capable of and how motivated they are to win it.

The Emperors are beginning to acknowledge this new breed of pirates and the rookies are no longer playing "little pirate games."

Luffy looks to be the star of this chapter. He's learned to apply his haki defensively as well as offensively. Kaido wasn't joking when he said he was approaching the likes of Roger, Newgate, Shanks, etc. This is a huge boon, ontop of his natural DF advantages.

But so much for the Emperor's elemental attacks, Luffy and Zoro have means of countering them. Luffy's immune to lightning and can create barriers for the others, Zoro can just cut them.

So far, the two sides are at a stand still. The Rookies are countering the Emperors' attacks, but the rookies aren't able to significantly damage the Emperors. Someone has to give, and I think something tragic might occur to finish off the volume.

Kaido finally remarks on Enma. Everything is coming full circle. Zoro received Enma the same chapter these excerpts released.

Spoiler

Enma has only ever been tamed by one man and it was Oden. No one, not even Oden's trusted vassals were strong enough to wield it. It took a swordsman of relative, if not greater willpower than Oden to be able to. This is how Zoro and Oden's connection forms. It will take a powerful swordsman to help defeat Kaido. Ryuma and Oden are dead, a new generation must rise up in their absence.

Oden's battle is not finished, and there is only one swordsman left who can complete the task he couldn't.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Btw, Why is no one targeting BM? It's almost as if they don't even care about her existence lmao

She is as strong as WB

 

[HA001]

They dodged his lightning though, and lightning should be faster than wind. I mean, I think it’s more plausible that they dodged and/or counter than Kaido just missing all of his attacks.

Its not plausible. Stop saying dumb shit. The panel clearly shows they didnt move. Not to mention THEY ARE INVISIBLE SLASHES. It had nothing to do with the speed of them.

 

[Mighty Action X]

Luffy has an attack that he used in Stampede which can be effective against Kaido during the decisive clash.

 

[Kromage911]

Zoro counter wind Slash. The slash that is faster than Snakeman. Goat of Feat. No one can speedblizt him :cheers:

How is the attack faster than Snakeman? Maybe I'm forgetting something. Can you explain?

 

[Indigo]

They dodged his lightning though, and lightning should be faster than wind. I mean, I think it’s more plausible that they dodged and/or counter than Kaido just missing all of his attacks.

Yeah, but it's still specualtion and not actually shown in the manga, if Zoro is the first to do it, then he is the first to do it.

Being shown a feat is more impressive then assuming a character did the feat.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Zoro is the man that is going to Kill Kaido.:cheers:

 

[Finalbeta]

that attack is sound speed

Pre TS Luffy was already above mach 1

 

[Shisui]

Zoro neutralised Kaido's Great Wind and counterattacked with Hiryuu Kaen

Only just saw that now. Thank you very much.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I could see your point. But the thing is, Zoro said he needs to unleash Enma more so he's definetly using armament Haki.

But it’s not all of it though. I mean we can assume Zoro is using more armament but it’s not all of it. We know he has to use Black hardening to be considered going all out in any capacity. That’s just how his fight are written.

Hell, why is he using a pre time skip technique then if he’s going all in? I’m pretty sure the main reason for that technique is the fire part. Not that it’s actually a strong technique

 

[Kromage911]

Jinbei > Yamato > Sanji.

Also, Sanji will be fighting a calamity while Jinbe will be fighting a flying 6. The hierarchy is clear.

 

[Shisui]

He is attacking too, however he is more like no solding whatever Kaido throws at him

I only just saw that now. Thanks bro

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Kaido is enjoying the fight, let the dude have fun, he was smiling from all of the attacks back on 1001. He won't go all out straight up, he first goes into dragon form to test their enemies, if they can deal with it he goes into human form and if they somehow deal with that, then he gets really serious and goes into hybrid.

But I as a viewer am not enjoying the fight when I see him in full dragon form LOL