Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

[Ice devil slayer]

We have a Kidd fanboy who's hella triggered here

 

[Blother Fertitta]

 

[Hedfi]

But it’s not all of it though. I mean we can assume Zoro is using more armament but it’s not all of it. We know he has to use Black hardening to be considered going all out in any capacity. That’s just how his fight are written.

Hell, why is he using a pre time skip technique then if he’s going all in? I’m pretty sure the main reason for that technique is the fire part. Not that it’s actually a strong technique

Of course not all ot it or he will be out or Haki. Besides using hardening doesn't mean you're using all of it, prime example Luffy.

Last chapter Zoro used the same attack on Kaido that he took Kamazu with, so it's safe to assume he used hardening. It doesn't have to be drawn for us to know cause Haki is supposed to be invisible anyway. Like I said, Oda is inconsistant with drawing the hardening part, there's many examples of it throughout the manga since the concept of hardening was first introduced.

 

[Indigo]

Killer > Kid

 

[Roronoa-sama]

kaido and big mom: first we would defeat that swordman monster and then we could defeat anothers.
He's the real leader

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Its reacting to INVISIBLE SLASHES that the scabbards couldnt is whats impressive.

Wait, how did Denjiro know there were invisible slashes then?

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

We have a Kidd fanboy who's hella triggered here

thought you zorowankers would be humble after reading spoilers than reading the chapter
wait til the chapter lets see who laughing once again

 

[HA001]

Wait, how did Denjiro know there were invisible slashes then?

He saw it slice a rock next to him

 

[Porter Peak II 👑]

We have a Kidd fanboy who's hella triggered here

Kid : Throwing some random metal.
Zoro : Cut steel

Sanji/Kid fans :Kid is stronger

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

draw out more Haki than you normally would for stronger attacks than you normally would use, at the cost of exhausting your Haki faster.

This isn’t what Enma does. Enma draws out haki UNWILLINGLY. That’s it.

There is no indication that Enma draws out haki that the person themselves literally cannot draw out themselves or anything like that.

 

[Indigo]

He saw it slice a rock next to him

This, he only notices after it cuts the rock.

 

[Finalbeta]

ah agree, but if kaido and big mom lack top tier CoO their going to get placed at hypersonic or MHS
those with good CoO can be sub-rel to rel speeds

Well if reaction speeds are too elevated compared to movement and combat speeds characters will start to dodge quite swiftly assuming they can move around as fast as their enemy.

But Luffy broke out of FS thanks to the fact despite Katakuri would manage to predict every move, he was unable to dodge Luffy's attacks regardless of that.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

big mom is legit a tank, the SN are attacking the weakest first (Laido) they know big moms wrath

 

[Ice devil slayer]

thought you zorowankers would be humble after reading spoilers than reading the chapter
wait til the chapter lets see who laughing once again

Last chap was fine for us tho lmfao

Kid : Throwing some random metal.
Zoro : Cut steel

Sanji/Kid fans :Kid is stronger

Lmao killer looks stronger than Kidd atm :cheers:

 

[SDfear]

Enel to BigMom

 

[Roronoa-sama]

kaido already called SN trio monsters
I don't mind if Killer and zoro reopen the scar.

Still waiting for zoro to surpass kinnemon in feats against kaido

According to your logic

Zoro isn't above Killer even. Sucks to be paired with Killer not Kidd and Law like Luffy is.

SN trio= a litter monster
Roronoa-sama: Swordman monster
psd: Zoro'll do a new and mortal scar

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Let me ask, Can Oden do everything with Ame no habakiri that he can do with Enma?

Remember letting a sword shrivel you up by draining you haki isn’t a skill.

In Actual combat, if Oden uses a one sword style, can he do everything with Ame that he can with Enma? If the answer is yes then why?

it’s because Oden is THAT STRONG. So if Ryuma is even STRONGER than Oden, why would it matter if it’s Enma or Shusui?

We don't know that he can. We don't know that he could not do more with Enma.

Like, if Oden was using one sword style, it's possible that he'd take Enma over Ame no Habakiri.

Enma is the blade that was hyped to possible become of the highest grade, and Enma is the blade that was given to Zoro between the two after all.

The skill is being able to control how much Haki you allow the blade to push out. Without mastery, you're fucked if it always forces all your Haki out.

With skill you can let it draw out 10% more than you normally would be able to without it for more Haki into attacks, or 20%, or 30%, and so on. You can regulate that, and not let Enma's will have the control.

So you can use Enma to gradually increase the strength of your attacks/the amount of Haki you put into the blade to defend, up to the most extreme cases where you really need that much strength into one decisive attack that you're fine with taking the gamble of exhausting yourself.

Again, it's not that much different than G4 in that regard.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

The extreme would be where you get shriveled up in one go, to push out a huge amount of Haki in one go, for an Ultimate attack if you've got used with the blade enough to make u

Also Oden does not do this. The ultimate use as According to Oden is just Enma working like every other sword.

We saw The ultimate master of Enma using it. None of this shriveling up business happened

 

[ZoroMazino]

Right before Zoro is getting killed by Kaidou

Zoro: Enma! Taskete!!

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

But Luffy broke out of FS thanks to the fact despite Katakuri would manage to predict every move, he was unable to dodge Luffy's attacks regardless of that.

FS should be FTL or MTFL naturally buts lets see how it does against kizaru because in one piece only seeing the future still doesnt make you the strongest