How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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Roronoa Zoro is indeed the man who is denoted to be this vigorous from the get go.
It was your delusions, and your lack of competency to authentically analyze the context of Zoro's character and what he is denoted to be when you decided to insert macrocosm rules on his where a captain has to always be more vigorous than his subordinate.

Not only that, mentioned subordinate additionally has to be more impotent than captain's peers.

And now that you are pellucidly and conspicuously proven erroneous, you don't have to make excuses, you don't have to lose every bit of lucidity and worse yet, you don't have to call Oda a "deplorable inditer".

All you have to do is be a fucking man and accept the fact that you have been erroneous this entire time, that you have been bullshiting this entire time and we can move on.


Accept Roronoa Zoro is Lebron James of One Piece
 

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Roronoa Zoro is indeed the man who is denoted to be this vigorous from the get go.
It was your delusions, and your lack of competency to authentically analyze the context of Zoro's character and what he is denoted to be when you decided to insert macrocosm rules on his where a captain has to always be more vigorous than his subordinate.


Not only that, mentioned subordinate additionally has to be more impotent than captain's peers.
And now that you are pellucidly and conspicuously proven erroneous, you don't have to make excuses, you don't have to lose every bit of lucidity and worse yet, you don't have to call Oda a "deplorable inditer".

All you have to do is be a fucking man and accept the fact that you have been erroneous this entire time, that you have been bullshiting this entire time and we can move on.

Accept Roronoa Zoro is Lebron James of One Piece
Was this ghostwritten by a robot?? Or Final??
 

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And how did Zoro, Kid and Killer do it despite not having advanced CoA ?
  • Killer used a Sonic attack.
  • Kidd has higher AP than Pre Udon Boundman
    • He's done the least damage so far.
  • Zoro too stronk (more seriously, hardening/Ryuo on swords seems enough to hurt Kaido, I'm not sure how the haki the Scabbards were using is that different from the haki Zoro was using).

The issue is that we were shown that Boundman could not hurt Kaido before learning Barrier COA. We were never shown that Zoro could not hurt Kaido.
 
You don’t know how to powerscale at all if that’s how you do it.

oden>fujitora. Kaido is in his weakest form rn which is dragon
I'm prob one of the best t powerscale actually.
There's no defined "stronger" or "weaker" among Kaido's human form and Dragon form, they have different advantages.
Oden is weaker than all concrete top tiers, he's outclassed by Mihawk completely, and Mihawk roughly equals Admirals.

Zoro obivously is more powerful now. g3 luffy pushed fujitora and base luffy was doing fine against fuji. Kaido destroyed g4 luffy.
That gravity attack from Fuji is like one of his weakest techniques, and we don't know if Zoro's growth makes up the gap shown in that technique.
Fujitora sent Luffy out of the island, Battlefield Removal.
G3 Luffy made Kaido's eye go white, which is worse than what he did to Fuji, with a weaker attack(the one on Fuji is a spinning Elephant Gun, like Elephant Rifle).
Kaido tanked a pseudo G4 attack, then KOed Luffy while he's angered(no future sight), emotionally triggered = devastating defeat, as Law stated what happened in his first fight against Doflamingo, their actual gap aren't that big. Kaido is getting bodied by takt, and 3 sword style that's not even an ougi.
 
  • Killer used a Sonic attack.
  • Kidd has higher AP than Pre Udon Boundman
    • He's done the least damage so far.
  • Zoro too stronk (more seriously, hardening/Ryuo on swords seems enough to hurt Kaido, I'm not sure how the haki the Scabbards were using is that different from the haki Zoro was using).

The issue is that we were shown that Boundman could not hurt Kaido before learning Barrier COA. We were never shown that Zoro could not hurt Kaido.
My interpretation is that Luffy's basic CoA evolved when he trained, which allows him to hurt Kaido with it but he can't deal serious damage without using advanced CoA. Why doesn't he use advanced CoA then ? Well, I'd say it's either PIS or using advanced CoA drains Luffy's stamina much faster and causes his G4 to not last as long as it should.
 
Wasn't Red Rock the only attack he used advanced CoA with ?
Maybe. But we have no proof either way. Oda essentially shat on his "not touching" concept.

"Advanced CoA" is just a b.s. powerup because Oda felt Luffy needed a powerup to beat Kaido. Waste of fucking time. We can't even see it. Wtf is the point of a new move, if we have no idea if it's being used.
 

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My interpretation is that Luffy's basic CoA evolved when he trained, which allows him to hurt Kaido with it but he can't deal serious damage without using advanced CoA. Why doesn't he use advanced CoA then ? Well, I'd say it's either PIS or using advanced CoA drains Luffy's stamina much faster and causes his G4 to not last as long as it should.
I think it's simpler to assume that Red Roc had internal destruction COA and his Boundman attacks had Barrier COA. It's more parsimonious than assuming basic COA is now strong enough to hurt Kaido (despite Luffy learning the advanced COA to hurt Kaido), and Luffy is choosing to just not use advanced COA.

using advanced CoA drains Luffy's stamina much faster and causes his G4 to not last as long as it should.
That's exactly what happened this chapter though?
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