General & Others Was this hax or advanced CoA?

[OmegaPsyche]

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I used to think Meme used some soul hax to drain Luffy's stamina, but after the advanced CoA revelation I think she used haki to mess with Luffy's insides.

What do u think?

 

[Uncle Van]

Why did it take so long to take effect if it was ACOA? And how did it effect Luffy's whole body without any grunts of pain or blood?

 

[Finalbeta]

Advanced CoA doesn't drain Haki it's a natural evolution of haki unlike G4 which is a DF mode

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Nothing so far indicates that advanced COA can drain haki.

I don't think she drained his Haki/stamina. He was losing power cause he lost control of his body.
Basically, Luffy's power loss = being forced to exit G4 cause of internal damage.

 

[Shanks Joestar]

I don't think she drained his Haki/stamina. He was losing power cause he lost control of his body.
Basically, Luffy's power loss = being forced to exit G4 cause of internal damage.

That not the case... just After this he started the fight with Kata

 

[Inspector_Mu]

BM mixed her haki with her df
It made her drain energy

Luffy df + haki = bouncy, remains rubber
Kata df + haki = remains sticky

 

[Finalbeta]

She probably lost a bit but not for the advanced stuff

 

[Diamond]

I think BM just has insane level of natural defense to go with her Haki. So she could outlast Gear 4 at the time.

 

[stealthblack]

if someone has advanced coa, then that's bm. I bet she is even harder to defeat then kaidou. I doubt oden would ever hurt her like he did with kaidou.

 

[Rmstorm]

Big Mom had the flaming Gear 4 pattern armament haki, which means she mixed her devil fruit + haki to drain Luffy's stamina.

 

[Finalbeta]

Yes probably she still can but Luffy should be able to push her to mid or high eventually

I think BM just has insane level of natural defense to go with her Haki. So she could outlast Gear 4 at the time.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Well there's no indication that he took any internal damage. Also if it was a feat of COA, Oda would have drawn it in the flashbacks like he did for Rayleigh, Sentomaru, the Boa sisters and the Admirals.

Even if he didn't take damage, point was her haki disrupted his G4, which made him exit boundman.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

BigMom did what Enma does, Drained Opponent's Haki which she most likely wont be able to do if she faces Zoro now (Zoro has taken control of his Haki, training in it specifically)

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Since no one mentioned it.

It could also be one of applications of CoC.

Kaidou also one shot Luffy and CoC is most fearsome ability as said in MF.

 

[Lampyris]

Luffy told Sanji he would only throw one punch, so he detransformed into his arms afterward.

Luffy saw Ace die right before him because he was easily provoked and wouldn't stand down. He's not going to make the same mistake. Luffy just gave Big Mom a taste of what's to come, but once you go G4 it's not easy to turn back without effect.

Big Mom has shown zero ability to drain anything. She can take years of your soul, but requires fear or the citizens willingly giving it up.

 

[Finalbeta]

Since no one mentioned it.

It could also be one of applications of CoC.

Kaidou also one shot Luffy and CoC is most fearsome ability as said in MF.

Many always considered CoC to be useless against strong opponents but I imagine it being very useful actually. It's at very least a psychological dominance stem into the mind of the subjected guy that can cause worse battle performances.