How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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The only thing correct about this is that Oda is portraying a consistent gap between Luffy and Zoro, and it’s massive in Luffy’s favor, as it always has been. Saying that Luffy’s G4 is less powerful than anything Zoro can do is absolute fanboy trash, as is saying he’s less durable than Zoro. Stop.

Lol, no? Luffy beats Law and Kid on his own, not having anything to do with Zoro. Zoro does not beat Law and Kid. He’s not on the level of people that are Luffy’s rivals. He drew against someone that is a subordinate of one of those rivals.
The only time Kaido got serious when he used Thunder Bagua which Luffy barely dodged with FS CoO. Not sure what Zoro wankers talking about.
 

Cinera

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Lol, no? Luffy beats Law and Kid on his own, not having anything to do with Zoro. Zoro does not beat Law and Kid. He’s not on the level of people that are Luffy’s rivals. He drew against someone that is a subordinate of one of those rivals.
  • Zoro beats Killer and Kidd by himself.
    • I'll make a thread about it when the chapter drops.
  • Zoro has been more impressive than Luffy in the fight so far.
 

Bogard

You can't win
  • Killer expresses surprise that Zoro cut Kaido.
Which is lower than the reactions Luffy's red roc got.


Since you love tiny details, we have
- Kaido and Big Mom shocked by red roc's damage
- Zoro himself questioning the level of Luffy's haki
- Kid surprised by Luffy's haki level and that a punching attack can hurt Kaido
- Killer literally starts believing they could win because of that

Hell just from this, Kaido started to wonder if Luffy could actually match him

Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido. This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage.
  • She did not comment that Killer's, Law's, Kidd's or Luffy's other attacks (Kong Gun, Kong Rifle, Rhino Schneider) damaged Kaido.
  • Based on Mama's reaction, it should be much more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Gatling).
  • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
No you're reading it backwards.
- Big Mom went out of her way to save Kaido after Killer's attack and literally stated they underestimated all of them after Zoro's attack failed to land
- The reason she didn't comment on Luffy's attacks after the red roc is because she already knew that Luffy's attacks could damage him. The moment red roc damaged Kaido, the surprising moment of Luffy's lvl3 hardening damaging Kaido passed.
- In Zoro's case however, she didn't think Zoro could actually cut him, hence her surprise at Zoro's attack actually cutting Kaido
 
"Even if they beat Kaido and Big Mom, they can't defeat the calamtiies." CP-O what? Jk it make sense. Queen gives everyone COVID, King burns them, and then the weakened captains are easy pickings.
 
The only thing correct about this is that Oda is portraying a consistent gap between Luffy and Zoro, and it’s massive in Luffy’s favor, as it always has been. Saying that Luffy’s G4 is less powerful than anything Zoro can do is absolute fanboy trash, as is saying he’s less durable than Zoro. Stop.

Lol, no? Luffy beats Law and Kid on his own, not having anything to do with Zoro. Zoro does not beat Law and Kid. He’s not on the level of people that are Luffy’s rivals. He drew against someone that is a subordinate of one of those rivals.
Cap, Luffy out here Spamming his Haki and is dead weight for Zoro right now. He literally carrying this man. Zoro is wasting his energy protecting someone on the battlefield. Thats called a liability.

You don't even have a argument tbh
 
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stealthblack

from now on, only gear 5 will return to 1vs1 hybrid kaidou.

the 4 others supernovas are lucky if they get BM but she is not getting defeated this arc
 

Cinera

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I wouldn't go that far, since Luffy has done the most damage to Kaido so far. Zoro 2nd above the other 3 SNs.
Yeah, Luffy has done more than double the damage Zoro did, but:
  • Zoro rescued Luffy 6 times
  • Rescued all SN once

Luffy has been rescued for half of the attacks he's had directed at him. Zoro performing so well while babysitting Luffy is very impressive IMO.
 
Which is lower than the reactions Luffy's red roc got.


Since you love tiny details, we have
- Kaido and Big Mom shocked by red roc's damage
- Zoro himself questioning the level of Luffy's haki
- Kid surprised by Luffy's haki level and that a punching attack can hurt Kaido
- Killer literally starts believing they could win because of that

Hell just from this, Kaido started to wonder if Luffy could actually match him

No you're reading it backwards.
- Big Mom went out of her way to save Kaido after Killer's attack and literally stated they underestimated all of them after Zoro's attack failed to land
- The reason she didn't comment on Luffy's attacks after the red roc is because she already knew that Luffy's attacks could damage him. The moment red roc damaged Kaido, the surprising moment of Luffy's lvl3 hardening damaging Kaido passed.
- In Zoro's case however, she didn't think Zoro could actually cut him, hence her surprise at Zoro's attack actually cutting Kaido
she think he couldnt cut kaido but literally told him to dodge lul
 
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