Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Erkan12]

when did mihawk bleed from vista tho?

This is a retarded argument. Luffy needed saving against Kaido, Vista didn't need saving against Mihawk. Stupid comparison as usual.

 

[Batik4ever]

Current Killer is a solid mid high tier. He's stronger than Cracker and Jack.

Because 4-gear couldn't beat Cracker. Killer? He is weak, his strength level is maximum 350 million.

Cracker>>>>Law>Kidd

 

[Midnight Delight]

his strength level is maximum 350 million.

?????

 

[Kuruka]

Oden is dead he has no haki . He says form of haki . It’s internal haki that’s why enma cuts so deep

How do you think blades turn black?

nope. Woro=oden level

zoro still still has trouble keeping up with enma

 

[trav]

You know what. Oda should have clearly shown Kaidou dodging the attack. There wouldn't have been any discussion regarding this.

either way idk why there is.
BM being startled is already enough. the rest is icing on the cake. it does not matter.

but then. its hard to imagine that Zoro would "miss" Kaido.
I mean, hes humongous.

 

[Erkan12]

The man who translated the chapter said it was the same we aren't fabricating this out of thin air

Again: why they post the other translation but not VIZ if it means the same thing lmao. This is pure desperation. We don't need someone on twitter telling us look out and dodge is the same thing or not, we can understand the difference.

 

[stairs-kun]

Zoro has to save Luffy's ass.

 

[Batik4ever]

?????

He is weak.
The attack just goes through Kaido's skin. This is the sound. Apoo also has sound power, but he lost to Snack with 600 million. What Cracker and Killer?

 

[Enma]

How do you think blades turn black?

We don't know? Most likely because of Haki. But even black blades don't contain Haki, much less non-black.

 

[stairs-kun]

luffy is hindering Zoro

 

[trav]

We don't need someone on twitter telling us look out and dodge is the same thing or not, we can understand the difference

 

[Seraphoenix]

Ridiculous. Jack fought the Dukes for 5 days straight. There is absolutely nothing that suggests Killer is even close to him in strength. Killer would be lucky to defeat one of the base Dukes.

Jack also fought Fujitora, Former fleet admiral Sengoku and Tsuru. He came out with superficial injuries while sinking two ships. If Fuji was alone then the navy would have had one less admiral.

it was legit a fight similar to Shiki vs Garp and Sengoku.

Jack too strong.

 

[ErionRoronoa]

No are you?

Vista saved Luffy's ass by blocking Mihawk's sword. He didn't grab Luffy and ran.
Zoro grab Luffy and ran, instead of blocking Big mom's sword.

Now I return the question: Are you dumb?

So you are really dumb after all.
Vista wasn't facing two freaking Yonkos at the same time.
Jinbei blocked that attack with his bare hands LOL. You think Zoro can't block that attack LOLLL?
I know you guys are crying inside from all the hype and epicness he is doing right now.
Try to find another excuse because this one is pretty dumb and pathetic.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Jack also fought Fujitora, Former fleet admiral Sengoku and Tsuru. He came out with superficial injuries while sinking two ships. If Fuji was alone then the navy would have had one less admiral.

it was legit a fight similar to Shiki vs Garp and Sengoku.

Jack too strong.

Superficial injuries? You mean these?

Look like he got the fuck beat out of him lmfao. Not as bad as Shanks vs the fish or Shanks vs pre DF Teach though, Shanks is lucky to be alive.

 

[mly90]

Kid : What is this ?
Kaido : Tatsumaki!!
Killer and Kidd : Wouahh!

Luffy : Thanks Zoro!
Zoro : That's actually not a simple tornado!

Zoro : oh shit!
Zoro : Luffy!!

Kaido : Gyaaa!! (Kaido wanted to try a new type of chewing gum)

Zoro : Wait! Wait ! Don't eat ...
Zoro : My captain!!
Zoro : Santoryu!

Kaido : hm ??
Kaido : This form of haki!!


Zoro : Kujou Ô Tatsumaki!!
Kaido : Uoooo!

Killer : (sorry the picture is cut but probably thinking what he gonna eat at KFC tonight)

Big Mom : That kid .. He managed to cut Kaido

Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?
Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"


We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.

So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same form of haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's why when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.

The hero we need but don't deserve thanks for the translations bro :cheers:

 

[KAIDO D. STRONGER]

Admirals are very impressive, they are faster than a dead horse. @GeneralP123

 

[Batik4ever]

Superficial injuries? You mean these?

Look like he got the fuck beat out of him lmfao. Not as bad as Shanks vs the fish or Shanks vs pre DF Teach though, Shanks is lucky to be alive.

You are missing 1 important detail. Jack kept his ship in that raid. Against Fujitora's meteorites on the open sea. 1 ship VS 4 ... Jack monster. He is much stronger than any Supernova except Luffy and Zoro. He's a monster. I think he tanked meteorites in Hybrid / Awakening and because of this he was considered dead even though his ship was seen intact.

 

[Seraphoenix]

Superficial injuries? You mean these?

Look like he got the fuck beat out of him lmfao. Not as bad as Shanks vs the fish or Shanks vs pre DF Teach though, Shanks is lucky to be alive.

Still less than the beating Fujitora got from Sabo and scrubs

 

[Erkan12]

.
Vista wasn't facing two freaking Yonkos at the same time.
Jinbei blocked that attack with his bare hands LOL. You think Zoro can't block that attack LOLLL?
I know you guys are crying inside from all the hype and epicness he is doing right now.
Try to find another excuse because this one is pretty dumb and pathetic.

Since when Kaido was there to stop Zoro? He was down due to Luffy, only Big mom was standing. Its a pathetic lie. When Zoro grab Luffy there was only Big mom then Law attacked Big mom, then Kaido get up and ate Luffy only then Zoro stopped running and attacked Kaido, making him spit Luffy.

That's why I said Zoro didn't want to fight Big mom while Vista wanted to fight Mihawk, big difference. Learn to read.

 

[Rukusho]

Sure i see that also. When Zoro gets something negative somewhere, the same people come up and spread toxicity from the other side and i am tired of that too. Honestly, i get headache thinking about the next weeks when (just in my opinion) zoro will fall against Kaido (which wouldnt be something to blame anyway, cause he is doing impressive right now!), the trolling against the zoro fandom comes up again.

But this is a circle. Zoro gets hype, zoro fandom gets toxic AF, Zoro gets dehyped, zoro haters get toxic AF. The main situation right now is just, the zoro fandom in our forum is way bigger then real haters (and i mean trolling haters, not people who just arent big zoro fans), thats why the toxicity right now is, in my opinion, even bigger. Just look at the numbers on strange zoro thread the last days. Also i lost counting how much insults and provocations me alone deleted here and i am absolutely not the most active moditing person in this thread.

So yes, i absolutely see the other side being toxic AF too when the parallel situation occurs, and i am tired of that too. But one toxicity doesnt make the other one better or more acceptable.


Edit: Also, in my opinion, overhyping will always lead into a massive backslash. So claiming now for example Zoro would Mid Diff Kaido right now (someone claimed it the last days), will automaticaly lead into a massive backslash when it gets debunked.

Thanks @Pantheos for a legitimate answer.

I see definitely where you're coming from, someone like myself on the other side sees things slightly differently but it is an interesting convo.

For example I'd see @ShishioIsBack post an interesting argument like something about Zoro's speed in the last 2 chapters and I'd think to myself "he makes a good point" but then to see someone just come in and downplay ruins the whole dialogue which I'm sure he would be trying to have and a poster can simply ruin by making a moronic comment like "beetle gifter ggs" which will then spiral out of control with Sanji being mentioned then toxic posting starts, and as you mentioned the cycle begins.

Maybe for right now there is no answer to the toxicity we'll just be having to deal with it lol.