Character Discussion What are your thoughts on Kid so far during the roof battle?

All SN did similar damage to Kaido (except Luffy who was clearly above) by their own means.
And he took the same BM's attack like the other 3.

I mean, if anyone is putting him below the other 3, they are blind. The four looked similar (Killer a bit below in terms of AP among the 4 since he needed internal damage technique, he can't cut through Kaido's dragon form scales like Zoro for example, though without Enma they would look similar since Zoro is using that special ability to launch more Haki at once, similar to Barrier Haki).
 
Cause Oda portrayed him as rival to Luffy. Take the simplest of the simple facts we have so far: Kid has CoC, confirmed by Kaido. Only this already puts him into some elite-group. Oda is hyping this shit for a reason.

And you do a mistake here, Zoro is not one of "the two main characters". The MC is Luffy. Luffy on his own. Not Zoro, not Kid, not Sanji, not Kaido.... Its Luffy. You can argue that Oda isnt taking simply "one MC", but then it would count the whole crew. Which was kinda a fact before time skip, but since there, its absolutely clear there is only one MC and this is Luffy. Every other character is a supporting character storywise. Including Zoro and Kid.
First of all, let's pay tribute to 1000 chapters of Zoro
:finally:

This "main character" thing? Don't get caught up in nonsense semantics.

Chapter 1: Romance Dawn
Chapter 2: Straw Hat Luffy
Chapter 3: Enter Zoro

Zoro is the first supporting character met, the only one Luffy sought out by name, and the one with whom he intertwined his goals. Unless you think his original offer, for Luffy to commit harakiri if he got in Zoro's way, doesn't count. Unless you think vowing to Luffy with the understanding that becoming WSS is alongside the Pirate King doesn't count. Unless you think his quote on ambition to Kuma isn't character defining. Unless you think Mihawk's comment on finding something greater than his own goal isn't character growth. Unless you think constantly warning Luffy and joking about getting a new captain if Luffy isn't a conqueror is all to be forgotten. There is technically only one main character but there's no One Piece without at least a handful at the core.

Oh and that's general stuff but not this arc right?

Oda immediately starts Wano with showing Zoro and having Luffy team up with him again upon reaching it. Zoro essentially covers all of the arc specific characters that Luffy doesn't and where they don't overlap. He's the one with an actual tie to the country, and the other one when it comes to actually preparing to fight Kaido right here. He saves Luffy from an ass kicking as soon as the damn raid starts with a statement about making it up to fight Kaido. He's right there to save him through the fight, with two emperors, while rattling off the hits that make them stand up. No boasting, so you know Oda is taking him seriously about seeing this fight through. Aside from Kaido's statements about not seeing another swordsman as strong as Oden.

Back when the shipwright debate was going a lot of people liked generic ass Pauly talking about "oh they had a moment while they were trapped together." Reminds me of people putting up Kid based on the prison thing, same shit down to the goggles.


Don't overestimate Kid Lmao. Fucking Chinjao had a name-drop as a conqueror too.
 
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Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
P. S It's not like they will show each and every move they have here, that's not how fight works.
It's not about showing each and every technique, it's that Zoro hasn't showed his best yet.

This would be like saying that Luffy has shown his all when he only fights in base, uses one G3 attack (but it misses) and has one successful G2 attack, but otherwise hasn't used his Gears at all.
 
It's not about showing each and every technique, it's that Zoro hasn't showed his best yet.

This would be like saying that Luffy has shown his all when he only fights in base, uses one G3 attack (but it misses) and has one successful G2 attack, but otherwise hasn't used his Gears at all.
I wouldn't say he's playing with Kaidou, from his reaction on missing his attack on Kaidou.
Neither i think he can keep pulling on multiple such attacks, there's some limit to his Haki.

So your example of comparing these two to G2 n G3 of Luffy don't quite sound convincing. But what i will agree on is, he may show Asura. Either that or one of his better attacks will seriously damage Kaidou.
 
Lol I’ll ease of the slander if he does something good but more time I won’t cos Oda is trying to convey it’s all about zoro and luffy on the roof top
Slander isn't needed in general imo
Do you see me hanging around slandering Zoro or other characters? No cause I only give hype and wait patiently, slandering is useless to me
Anyway do what you want, if slandering a character makes you feel better then go on
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
Slander isn't needed in general imo
Do you see me hanging around slandering Zoro or other characters? No cause I only give hype and wait patiently, slandering is useless to me
Anyway do what you want, if slandering a character makes you feel better then go on
They dont get that "slandering" or "clowning" another character just openly proves unsecurities with their own fandom. While fans can just enjoy and hype their character and enjoy the hype for other characters too (seriously, Zoro is doing impressive here, i enjoy that alot), insecure people want to stick to the "strongest" and if they feel that title in danger, they start this behavior. It is fun to watch. And the backslash will be even funnier.

But something else. Kids words took my attention this chapter. He is ordering Killer to take Luffy to him. Does he have an idea for a tag team attack, or does he want to know how ryo works from him? Why does he want Luffy at his place. Maybe he just knows he is the best chance to keep luffy as safe as possible.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
They dont get that "slandering" or "clowning" another character just openly proves unsecurities with their own fandom. While fans can just enjoy and hype their character and enjoy the hype for other characters too (seriously, Zoro is doing impressive here, i enjoy that alot), insecure people want to stick to the "strongest" and if they feel that title in danger, they start this behavior. It is fun to watch. And the backslash will be even funnier.

But something else. Kids words took my attention this chapter. He is ordering Killer to take Luffy to him. Does he have an idea for a tag team attack, or does he want to know how ryo works from him? Why does he want Luffy at his place. Maybe he just knows he is the best chance to keep luffy as safe as possible.
Big mom said that
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
All SN did similar damage to Kaido (except Luffy who was clearly above) by their own means.
And he took the same BM's attack like the other 3.

I mean, if anyone is putting him below the other 3, they are blind. The four looked similar (Killer a bit below in terms of AP among the 4 since he needed internal damage technique, he can't cut through Kaido's dragon form scales like Zoro for example, though without Enma they would look similar since Zoro is using that special ability to launch more Haki at once, similar to Barrier Haki).
Zoro and luffy was the uniques than they can penetretion in kaido.
 
They dont get that "slandering" or "clowning" another character just openly proves unsecurities with their own fandom. While fans can just enjoy and hype their character and enjoy the hype for other characters too (seriously, Zoro is doing impressive here, i enjoy that alot), insecure people want to stick to the "strongest" and if they feel that title in danger, they start this behavior. It is fun to watch. And the backslash will be even funnier.

But something else. Kids words took my attention this chapter. He is ordering Killer to take Luffy to him. Does he have an idea for a tag team attack, or does he want to know how ryo works from him? Why does he want Luffy at his place. Maybe he just knows he is the best chance to keep luffy as safe as possible.
You know I got you on all the line

Anyway, I think Big Mom said that (explosions in the background indicating that she was going after Luffy and Zoro), while Kidd was just talking to Killer
At least this is the impression I had (the baloon in question has a 'angrier' font which fits Big Mom
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I want to speculate why Kid says that. But there is, in my opinion, no indication for BM saying that. Not in a panel with only Kid and Killer shown, while BM was before shown with Zoro and Luffy at another place.
The arrows on that speech bubble literally point behind kidd and killer to where big mom just attacked luffy. What is there to speculate
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
They dont get that "slandering" or "clowning" another character just openly proves unsecurities with their own fandom. While fans can just enjoy and hype their character and enjoy the hype for other characters too (seriously, Zoro is doing impressive here, i enjoy that alot), insecure people want to stick to the "strongest" and if they feel that title in danger, they start this behavior. It is fun to watch. And the backslash will be even funnier.

But something else. Kids words took my attention this chapter. He is ordering Killer to take Luffy to him. Does he have an idea for a tag team attack, or does he want to know how ryo works from him? Why does he want Luffy at his place. Maybe he just knows he is the best chance to keep luffy as safe as possible.
I like slandering some characters just for the sake of triggering some folks.
Nothing against the character themselves :P
Except Oden.
And Enma.
Hope Wano is destroyed.
#TeamKaido.
#OrochiDidNothingWrong
 
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