Powers & Abilities Is Oden's haki inside Enma?
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Is THAT >>>>>KATANA<<<< singular.
Zoro used a tech and coated all the 3 blades. Only Enma is talked about.
All 3 blades should be showing the same Haki, since it's Zoro's.
But no. Only Enma has the "weird" one.
Only Enma has the "darkened" aura, despite all of them being blackened and used on the attack.
What does it mean?
Enma uses Zoro's haki, doesnt it? So why is it the only one different?
Simply because it was Oden's?
Again, I'm gonna wait until the end of the fight to judge if this "Oden's will" is actually empowering Zoro or not.
It doesn't take away ALL the merit from Zoro himself, but as I said since Enma was introduced, it does take away a little from him in order to wank Oden.
Zoro used a tech and coated all the 3 blades. Only Enma is talked about.
All 3 blades should be showing the same Haki, since it's Zoro's.
But no. Only Enma has the "weird" one.
Only Enma has the "darkened" aura, despite all of them being blackened and used on the attack.
What does it mean?
Enma uses Zoro's haki, doesnt it? So why is it the only one different?
Simply because it was Oden's?
Again, I'm gonna wait until the end of the fight to judge if this "Oden's will" is actually empowering Zoro or not.
It doesn't take away ALL the merit from Zoro himself, but as I said since Enma was introduced, it does take away a little from him in order to wank Oden.
Is THAT >>>>>KATANA<<<< singular.
Zoro used a tech and coated all the 3 blades. Only Enma is talked about.
All 3 blades should be showing the same Haki, since it's Zoro's.
But no. Only Enma has the "weird" one.
Only Enma has the "darkened" aura, despite all of them being blackened and used on the attack.
What does it mean?
Enma uses Zoro's haki, doesnt it? So why is it the only one different?
Simply because it was Oden's?
Again, I'm gonna wait until the end of the fight to judge if this "Oden's will" is actually empowering Zoro or not.
It doesn't take away ALL the merit from Zoro himself, but as I said since Enma was introduced, it does take away a little from him in order to wank Oden.
Zoro used a tech and coated all the 3 blades. Only Enma is talked about.
All 3 blades should be showing the same Haki, since it's Zoro's.
But no. Only Enma has the "weird" one.
Only Enma has the "darkened" aura, despite all of them being blackened and used on the attack.
What does it mean?
Enma uses Zoro's haki, doesnt it? So why is it the only one different?
Simply because it was Oden's?
Again, I'm gonna wait until the end of the fight to judge if this "Oden's will" is actually empowering Zoro or not.
It doesn't take away ALL the merit from Zoro himself, but as I said since Enma was introduced, it does take away a little from him in order to wank Oden.
Not really a good analogy.
The problem here is Oda constant fetish for "dubious" writing. To the point where you can have multiple valid points of view, using elements present in the story he tells, both to prove a point and debunk other, and we are here debating over something and going nowhere.
It's actually AMAZING how, at EVERY chapter, there are people that point things to "It's Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because X and Y", while you have another bunch of people "It's not Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because A and B".
Despite the fact that I'm more inclined to believe in the "oden's will is actually a real boost", I don't disregard the arguments from those saying that it isn't.
I completely understand their point of view. I just find it a little lacking, compared to the boost side.
But don't get me wrong. If Oda comes clean later and states "it was zoro all along", I will still be pissed at him and will say "then why did you highlight the fucking sword so much if it wasn't that big of a deal?".
Looks like a fake plot twist. Like when we were led to believe Rey's parents were important, just so later we found out that NOPE, THEY WERE JUST SOME RANDONS! GOTCHA!!!!! SUBVERTED YOUR EXPECTATIONS LMAO.
The problem here is Oda constant fetish for "dubious" writing. To the point where you can have multiple valid points of view, using elements present in the story he tells, both to prove a point and debunk other, and we are here debating over something and going nowhere.
It's actually AMAZING how, at EVERY chapter, there are people that point things to "It's Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because X and Y", while you have another bunch of people "It's not Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because A and B".
Despite the fact that I'm more inclined to believe in the "oden's will is actually a real boost", I don't disregard the arguments from those saying that it isn't.
I completely understand their point of view. I just find it a little lacking, compared to the boost side.
But don't get me wrong. If Oda comes clean later and states "it was zoro all along", I will still be pissed at him and will say "then why did you highlight the fucking sword so much if it wasn't that big of a deal?".
Looks like a fake plot twist. Like when we were led to believe Rey's parents were important, just so later we found out that NOPE, THEY WERE JUST SOME RANDONS! GOTCHA!!!!! SUBVERTED YOUR EXPECTATIONS LMAO.
1. nope never said that. but in the case of zoro using enma it is helping him dramaticly compared to someone like oden. kaido and BM say so and have not mentioned zoros OWN power even once.
2. yes oden can cut kaido scales with other swords because of ryou...zoro can't because he doesn't have ryou normaly
3. I do know that BOTH zoro and kidd were very surprized at the haki that luffy used to hurt kaido...meaning they dont know it.
nothing made up about zoros own words.
2. yes oden can cut kaido scales with other swords because of ryou...zoro can't because he doesn't have ryou normaly
3. I do know that BOTH zoro and kidd were very surprized at the haki that luffy used to hurt kaido...meaning they dont know it.
nothing made up about zoros own words.
Not really a good analogy.
The problem here is Oda constant fetish for "dubious" writing. To the point where you can have multiple valid points of view, using elements present in the story he tells, both to prove a point and debunk other, and we are here debating over something and going nowhere.
It's actually AMAZING how, at EVERY chapter, there are people that point things to "It's Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because X and Y", while you have another bunch of people "It's not Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because A and B".
Despite the fact that I'm more inclined to believe in the "oden's will is actually a real boost", I don't disregard the arguments from those saying that it isn't.
I completely understand their point of view. I just find it a little lacking, compared to the boost side.
But don't get me wrong. If Oda comes clean later and states "it was zoro all along", I will still be pissed at him and will say "then why did you highlight the fucking sword so much if it wasn't that big of a deal?".
Looks like a fake plot twist. Like when we were led to believe Rey's parents were important, just so later we found out that NOPE, THEY WERE JUST SOME RANDONS! GOTCHA!!!!! SUBVERTED YOUR EXPECTATIONS LMAO.
The problem here is Oda constant fetish for "dubious" writing. To the point where you can have multiple valid points of view, using elements present in the story he tells, both to prove a point and debunk other, and we are here debating over something and going nowhere.
It's actually AMAZING how, at EVERY chapter, there are people that point things to "It's Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because X and Y", while you have another bunch of people "It's not Oden's Haki. you can clearly see it because A and B".
Despite the fact that I'm more inclined to believe in the "oden's will is actually a real boost", I don't disregard the arguments from those saying that it isn't.
I completely understand their point of view. I just find it a little lacking, compared to the boost side.
But don't get me wrong. If Oda comes clean later and states "it was zoro all along", I will still be pissed at him and will say "then why did you highlight the fucking sword so much if it wasn't that big of a deal?".
Looks like a fake plot twist. Like when we were led to believe Rey's parents were important, just so later we found out that NOPE, THEY WERE JUST SOME RANDONS! GOTCHA!!!!! SUBVERTED YOUR EXPECTATIONS LMAO.
There is one group of people who keep driving this "haki" narrative that no one else with a common sense mind believes for a reason. No matter what comes out that same group of people will always bash zoro with their made up facts, it's been proven chapter after chapter after chapter
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You definitely believe the Earth is flat too LOL
1. Where are you getting its helping him nore than Oden from? Kaodo and BM never said its helping more then Oden. Once again making stuff up.
2. Zoro doesn't have Ryou? Then what did he flow back into his Body when Enma took it. Bro idk what your smoking, but give me some.
3. Zoro was not surprised. Stop making shit up. All Zoro does was asked if thats what he learned from the old man. Kidd was the one surprised. Kidd saying Omg i didn't know physical attacks can hurt him. Everything your saying is not in the manga. Your literally making shit up
2. Zoro doesn't have Ryou? Then what did he flow back into his Body when Enma took it. Bro idk what your smoking, but give me some.
3. Zoro was not surprised. Stop making shit up. All Zoro does was asked if thats what he learned from the old man. Kidd was the one surprised. Kidd saying Omg i didn't know physical attacks can hurt him. Everything your saying is not in the manga. Your literally making shit up
I talk for myself.
My dislike is targeted at Enma and Oden.
And chapter after chapter after chapter Enma is highlighted.
Nobody put a gun against Oda's head (as far as we know) and made him flash out Enma and "Oden's presence" so much.
He is the one doing it.
My "better scenario" for Zoro would be:
Zoro refuses to give back Shuusui, once the swordsmith appears and give momo and hyori their blades, he offers Nidai to Zoro.
He gets Nidai Kitetsu (no Enma or Oden BS) since he already had shown interest in it and returns Shuusui;
He gets "used to it" fast because of Sandai Kitetsu, same reason Enma-Wado;
No weird dark aura around only Nidai. It's around all of his blades equally;
He still does all the same things he already did so far. No "he cant cut Kaido" BS. He cuts him. With all 3. 3 slashes. Makes a scar shaped like a "Z" on Kaido's face.
No Enma wank. No Oden wank. All Zoro.
Now tell me this wouldnt have been way better.
My dislike is targeted at Enma and Oden.
And chapter after chapter after chapter Enma is highlighted.
Nobody put a gun against Oda's head (as far as we know) and made him flash out Enma and "Oden's presence" so much.
He is the one doing it.
My "better scenario" for Zoro would be:
Zoro refuses to give back Shuusui, once the swordsmith appears and give momo and hyori their blades, he offers Nidai to Zoro.
He gets Nidai Kitetsu (no Enma or Oden BS) since he already had shown interest in it and returns Shuusui;
He gets "used to it" fast because of Sandai Kitetsu, same reason Enma-Wado;
No weird dark aura around only Nidai. It's around all of his blades equally;
He still does all the same things he already did so far. No "he cant cut Kaido" BS. He cuts him. With all 3. 3 slashes. Makes a scar shaped like a "Z" on Kaido's face.
No Enma wank. No Oden wank. All Zoro.
Now tell me this wouldnt have been way better.