Chapter Discussion Did Zoro only cut Kaido with Enma
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Someone else skipped chapter 955. 
Yes, some swordmen wouldn't be able to release as much haki without enma but Zoro is not "some swordmen". Zoro took back or flowed all of the extra haki, which was a large amount, back into his body. That proves he could control large amounts of haki even before training with enma.
Some of the benefits to enma is it helps the user get use to releasing large amounts of haki and improve their control of haki.
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You serious? When Zoro first used Enma, he didn't even attempt to apply Haki to it, yet it almost bled him dry, and turned his arm into a husk.
When he attacked Kaido with Flying Dragon Blaze using only Enma, he released so much Haki, he could barely breath.
You think Zoro was holding back with Tatsumaki when Kaido ate Luffy? Of course not. If Zoro could apply that much haki to all three of his swords, he would have done so.
Again, Pica and Dressrosa example I said before.
The ONLY time Zoro uses that much Haki, is when he is solely wielding Enma. Feel free to prove me wrong and provide panels of him using that much Haki without Enma.
When he attacked Kaido with Flying Dragon Blaze using only Enma, he released so much Haki, he could barely breath.
You think Zoro was holding back with Tatsumaki when Kaido ate Luffy? Of course not. If Zoro could apply that much haki to all three of his swords, he would have done so.
Again, Pica and Dressrosa example I said before.
The ONLY time Zoro uses that much Haki, is when he is solely wielding Enma. Feel free to prove me wrong and provide panels of him using that much Haki without Enma.
I didn't say it's doing it "on it's own", as of course Zoro is putting Haki into Enma, but the Sword pulls out more than Zoro can utilize on his own. Hence the reason he was so winded after using Enma by itself.
What's that one quote you guys have been posting all over the site? Something about Zoro wanting to be able to use 100 percent of his power?
Hey remember when Zoro was fighting Pica, and he said he couldn't take him down with a flying slash, because at that distance it would be ineffective? Yet with Enma he sent a flying slash clean across Onigashima's rooftop and cut the horn off?
What's that one quote you guys have been posting all over the site? Something about Zoro wanting to be able to use 100 percent of his power?
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Hey remember when Zoro was fighting Pica, and he said he couldn't take him down with a flying slash, because at that distance it would be ineffective? Yet with Enma he sent a flying slash clean across Onigashima's rooftop and cut the horn off?
He didn't say anything about it failing to defeat the golem.
That's the same reason he stopped King Punch. He knew the attack would destroy the golem but wouldn't damage Pica real body.
Actually he said the flying slash wouldn't knockout Pics, who's hiding in the golem.
He didn't say anything about it failing to defeat the golem.
That's the same reason he stopped King Punch. He knew the attack would destroy the golem but wouldn't damage Pica real body.
He didn't say anything about it failing to defeat the golem.
That's the same reason he stopped King Punch. He knew the attack would destroy the golem but wouldn't damage Pica real body.
Lmao what? Why would he use G4 when G3 got the job done, and he would have destroyed the Noah had Shirahoshi not stopped him.
This is completely different, when Kaido literally ate Luffy, and Zoro's last Santoryu attack against Kaido was not effective at all. But yeah, lets hold back, while his Captain is about to get chewed up and swallowed.
This is completely different, when Kaido literally ate Luffy, and Zoro's last Santoryu attack against Kaido was not effective at all. But yeah, lets hold back, while his Captain is about to get chewed up and swallowed.
Of course not, but Zoro is not Mihawk or at his level at the time. That is irrelevant.
Mihawk was able to cut a giant iceberg in half, that was created by the combined efforts if an admiral and Yonko, from a great distance away with just physical strength.
Zoro never used his max haki. He was not even using barrier haki. He was just using haki to make his swords stronger so they wouldn't break.
Mihawk was able to cut a giant iceberg in half, that was created by the combined efforts if an admiral and Yonko, from a great distance away with just physical strength.
Zoro never used his max haki. He was not even using barrier haki. He was just using haki to make his swords stronger so they wouldn't break.
Of course not, but Zoro is not Mihawk or at his level at the time. That is irrelevant.
Mihawk was able to cut a giant iceberg in half, that was created by the combined efforts if an admiral and Yonko, from a great distance away with just physical strength.
Zoro never used his max haki. He was not even using barrier haki. He was just using haki to make his swords stronger so they wouldn't break.
Mihawk was able to cut a giant iceberg in half, that was created by the combined efforts if an admiral and Yonko, from a great distance away with just physical strength.
Zoro never used his max haki. He was not even using barrier haki. He was just using haki to make his swords stronger so they wouldn't break.
Go back and we read that arc. Luffy was in a life or death situation and was almost killed by Hody. Luffy was trying to destroy Noah in time to save FMI and failing. If he didn't receive help FMI would have been destroyed. Yet, he never bothered to use G4.
Your reading comprehension skills sucks. The entire purpose of that scene was to show off Zoro's physical strength. Not to show off his offensive haki power.
The flashback was about Zoro using his haki to make sure his swords so strong they wouldn't break. Not about increasing the power of his attack by using barrier haki or releasing more haki. Oda wanted to save that for Wano arc.
Second, Zoro cut the golem up to pieces and Pica still wasn't defeated.
Oda wanted Zoro and Pica to be in a direct clash so he could hype up Pica CoA which hyped up Zoro's CoA.
Your reading comprehension skills sucks. The entire purpose of that scene was to show off Zoro's physical strength. Not to show off his offensive haki power.
The flashback was about Zoro using his haki to make sure his swords so strong they wouldn't break. Not about increasing the power of his attack by using barrier haki or releasing more haki. Oda wanted to save that for Wano arc.
Second, Zoro cut the golem up to pieces and Pica still wasn't defeated.
Oda wanted Zoro and Pica to be in a direct clash so he could hype up Pica CoA which hyped up Zoro's CoA.
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Zoro used a Santoryu technique; unless shown otherwise, he hurt him with all three swords. That is the default assumption given that all three swords were used.
Instances when Zoro used Santoryu to produce one slash:
Again, until shown otherwise, all 3 swords produced the slash that cut Kaido.
Because Hiryuu Kaen is a stronger attack than Tatsumaki?
Hiryuu Kaen is Zoro's strongest Ittoryu technique, and Tatsumaki is a technique that he mostly uses to clear fodder.
While Zoro was more drained by Hiryuu Kaen than Tatsumaki (he probably poured more haki into it). Even before the timeskip, Hiryuu Kaen was a stronger attack than Tatsumaki.
Instances when Zoro used Santoryu to produce one slash:
- Cutting the Pacifista
- 1080 Pound Cannon vs Pica's Golem
- Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai vs Pica's Golem
- Hardened Slashes vs Pica's Golem
Again, until shown otherwise, all 3 swords produced the slash that cut Kaido.
Because Hiryuu Kaen is a stronger attack than Tatsumaki?
Hiryuu Kaen is Zoro's strongest Ittoryu technique, and Tatsumaki is a technique that he mostly uses to clear fodder.
While Zoro was more drained by Hiryuu Kaen than Tatsumaki (he probably poured more haki into it). Even before the timeskip, Hiryuu Kaen was a stronger attack than Tatsumaki.
Zoro used a Santoryu technique; unless shown otherwise, he hurt him with all three swords. That is the default assumption given that all three swords were used.
Instances when Zoro used Santoryu to produce one slash:
Again, until shown otherwise, all 3 swords produced the slash that cut Kaido.
Because Hiryuu Kaen is a stronger attack than Tatsumaki?
Hiryuu Kaen is Zoro's strongest Ittoryu technique, and Tatsumaki is a technique that he mostly uses to clear fodder.
While Zoro was more drained by Hiryuu Kaen than Tatsumaki (he probably poured more haki into it). Even before the timeskip, Hiryuu Kaen was a stronger attack than Tatsumaki.
Instances when Zoro used Santoryu to produce one slash:
- Cutting the Pacifista
- 1080 Pound Cannon vs Pica's Golem
- Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai vs Pica's Golem
- Hardened Slashes vs Pica's Golem
Again, until shown otherwise, all 3 swords produced the slash that cut Kaido.
Because Hiryuu Kaen is a stronger attack than Tatsumaki?
Hiryuu Kaen is Zoro's strongest Ittoryu technique, and Tatsumaki is a technique that he mostly uses to clear fodder.
While Zoro was more drained by Hiryuu Kaen than Tatsumaki (he probably poured more haki into it). Even before the timeskip, Hiryuu Kaen was a stronger attack than Tatsumaki.
only a slash yet zoro used all 3 def he cut kaido with all 3
Are people seriously following Kaido's Words over the guy who made those Swords?
Kaido said Scabbards too are using Oden's Haki, doesn't mean Oden is inside them or even his Haki
It's just that Kaido doesn't know that Level of Haki & simply calls it Oden's Haki
As for Enma, it feeds on the User's Haki & unleash more than he intended, that's why the focus is on it
Zoro is currently trying to Master Enma & be able to use Haki freely
This happened before when he fought Baroque Works, one of the Swords he bought was cutting Elements that Zoro didn't order it to
It cut Stone even though Zoro had intention of cutting Flesh so it was basically using BOAT without permission
Enma is exactly same thing but instead of BOAT, it's using Haki without permission
When Zoro said that he needs to unleash more of Enma's Power/Haki, he meant the Haki it is stealing from him
Zoro is trying to Conquer Enma & make it unleash both reserves of Haki for a Full Powered Haki Slash
In conclusion:
Enma helps bring more of User's Haki which is what makes it the Legendary Sword that it is but it does so without permission so the User have three outcomes here:
1. Be unable to Control Enma & get rekt because all your Haki/Energy will be sucked ---> Reason Kine'mon & others refused to have it
2. Prevent Enma from taking all your Haki & be able to wield it ---> This is what Zoro did the first time he got it
3. Completely control Enma & make it take & unleash Haki however the User wants ---> This is what Zoro is trying to Master
Once Zoro achieves that, Enma will become like a part of Zoro's Body & he controls it's Ability easily enabling him to increase & decrease his Haki output without any problems or drawbacks
Kaido said Scabbards too are using Oden's Haki, doesn't mean Oden is inside them or even his Haki
It's just that Kaido doesn't know that Level of Haki & simply calls it Oden's Haki
As for Enma, it feeds on the User's Haki & unleash more than he intended, that's why the focus is on it
Zoro is currently trying to Master Enma & be able to use Haki freely
This happened before when he fought Baroque Works, one of the Swords he bought was cutting Elements that Zoro didn't order it to
It cut Stone even though Zoro had intention of cutting Flesh so it was basically using BOAT without permission
Enma is exactly same thing but instead of BOAT, it's using Haki without permission
When Zoro said that he needs to unleash more of Enma's Power/Haki, he meant the Haki it is stealing from him
Zoro is trying to Conquer Enma & make it unleash both reserves of Haki for a Full Powered Haki Slash
In conclusion:
Enma helps bring more of User's Haki which is what makes it the Legendary Sword that it is but it does so without permission so the User have three outcomes here:
1. Be unable to Control Enma & get rekt because all your Haki/Energy will be sucked ---> Reason Kine'mon & others refused to have it
2. Prevent Enma from taking all your Haki & be able to wield it ---> This is what Zoro did the first time he got it
3. Completely control Enma & make it take & unleash Haki however the User wants ---> This is what Zoro is trying to Master
Once Zoro achieves that, Enma will become like a part of Zoro's Body & he controls it's Ability easily enabling him to increase & decrease his Haki output without any problems or drawbacks
