Questions & Mysteries Why none use CoC?

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#10
Luffy alone could ko most of the 30.000 with his coc, eustass too. why is haki such BS that it's only used when it's plot required. why are numbers pointed out 27.000 vs 5000 if numbers stop counting with coc.
I guess it is because they cant exactly calculate who will be hit by hit. Can Luffy or Kid make sure they dont knock out more of their samurai instead of the enemies? Worst case, they have only enough experience to knock out some samurai and reduce their own numbers. Or even worse, they are powerfull enough to knock out everyone except high tiers. Which leave them to get outnumbered alot (3 desasters, Tobi roppo, Numbers...).

So, when they cant make sure to now knock out their own people, it is way to risky, specially because they could then kill all samurai with their own hands, cause they knock them out in front of very dangerous enemies which will enjoy to kill them.
 
#11
Because Coc does not differentiate between allies and enemy. Even if he used it and koed half of the beast pirates he will also ko more than half of the samurai and all of Kidd and heart pirates.
Yeah he didn't really train in this with Rayleigh. They only had time for the basics
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someone didn't pay attention during rayleigh class.
No he did. Rayleigh tells him that it can be trained to selectively affect people but also says that they don't have time to cover everything and he's going to need to develop his haki in battle
 
#13
It would help out the alliance greatly. Imagine if Law teleported Luffy below to allow him to fully recuperate and while there, he knocks out most of the Beast Pirate forces. All that they'd have to worry about is the Calamities, Flying Six, the Numbers and some Headliners (maybe some Gifters too but plenty of the other members would be out). Didn't Luffy knock out all of those fishmen without any of the citizens and Shirahoshi getting affected? Didn't Rayleigh tell Luffy that he shouldn't use it as recklessly and that he'd have to train to control it to only affect enemies?
 
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#14
Yeah he didn't really train in this with Rayleigh. They only had time for the basics
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No he did. Rayleigh tells him that it can be trained to selectively affect people but also says that they don't have time to cover everything and he's going to need to develop his haki in battle
then can you tell me why the allies within that area unaffected?

imo basic CoC is to control who's gonna affected, enemy or allies
 
#15
Soon they will which is gonna be the haki clash between kidd luffy kaido and big mom. Luffy uses conquerers in dressrosa whole cake and soon wano during his main fight. The conquerer clash is probably gonna knock out the majority of beast pirates which turns the tide of the war.

the twist is no samurai gets knocked out because they are fighting a war to free wano and their will and ambition is very strong. They wouldn’t be knocked out only most of the grifters.
 
#16
Yeah he didn't really train in this with Rayleigh. They only had time for the basics
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No he did. Rayleigh tells him that it can be trained to selectively affect people but also says that they don't have time to cover everything and he's going to need to develop his haki in battle
Luffy can target who he wants to KO with his CoC (and he most likely know who he can KO with it), he did it in Sabaody, fishmen Island and Wano.
But if he uses it Kaido and Big Mom will use theirs too.

Oda is saving it for the end to not have too many people knocked out.
 
#19
Because reasons. Oda not even trying to adress this issue in the story is literally the dumbest thing he's done in this arc (along with Law not using his godlike abilities in the battle and waiting to face Kaido to use them).
 
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