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Means nothing
He only dominated King n Queen now after 40 min of being the one dominated .
You don't understand how bounty works.
If his bounty was above 1.5
He'd have his own fame like Benn or own legend lke Katakuri, he'll be Yonko candidate.
Teach would be having 2.5+
What people fail to realise is that Teach bounty may have been 1.8 or 1.7 a year ago after beating WBP and taking territories.
But that's another topic.
King 1.33 B
Queen 1.32 B
Marco 1.2...B
Roo 1.1 B
Katakuri 1.057 B
Yassop 1 B
Benn is the only one who can have 1.4+
He only dominated King n Queen now after 40 min of being the one dominated .
You don't understand how bounty works.
If his bounty was above 1.5
He'd have his own fame like Benn or own legend lke Katakuri, he'll be Yonko candidate.
Teach would be having 2.5+
What people fail to realise is that Teach bounty may have been 1.8 or 1.7 a year ago after beating WBP and taking territories.
But that's another topic.
King 1.33 B
Queen 1.32 B
Marco 1.2...B
Roo 1.1 B
Katakuri 1.057 B
Yassop 1 B
Benn is the only one who can have 1.4+
Nothing suggests he was at any point being the one dominated. In fact, he was consistently shown being superior to them.
Yeah, he kind of a was an emperor candidate. And why is Katakuri up there? Katakuri's legend is mainly reserved among his crew. Also, Marco was literally the captain of the whitebeard pirates after Marineford, and he was considered one of the few groups that could possibly stop Blackbeard.
Marco is a huge deal, much more so than the calamities at least(especially considering that while Big Mum destroyed Queen effortlessly, Marco was actually kind of a hassle).
Yeah, he kind of a was an emperor candidate. And why is Katakuri up there? Katakuri's legend is mainly reserved among his crew. Also, Marco was literally the captain of the whitebeard pirates after Marineford, and he was considered one of the few groups that could possibly stop Blackbeard.
Marco is a huge deal, much more so than the calamities at least(especially considering that while Big Mum destroyed Queen effortlessly, Marco was actually kind of a hassle).
J
That's why he's the one who is hella exhausted they aren't even minding him much except only King
Both can do other side quest
Once again you don't understand how bounty works
Marco never made his own fame before or under WB's leadership! :
Marco has no legend
Marco isn't a crazy bastard like Calamities
Marco doesn't threaten civilians
Marco has accomplished nothing in NW except Ls. Nobody speak of Marco's insane feats.
His presence /threat level was never compared to WB.
Marco solely benefits from being WB's lackey while being a phoenix
Freaking Katakuri has a legend, threat above Linlin in luffy and capone eyes...
But only 1b, barely above Jack
Luffy did lots of stuff yet had a bounty below dudes who are more cruel.
I wouldn't be shocked if Benn, yassoo and roo have lesser bounties than King and Queen too
They never said they had the highest bounties among YCs but rather that the whole main crew (excluding Shanks ) has the highest average * bounty.
Dudes like King or Queen or Jack will always be viewed as bigger threats as they have no morals
They just attack like madmen for fun or if they don't get answers.
Sabo threatens WG yet bounty barely above 600M
Among veteran pirates :
King and Queen have 300M over Katakuri like how Kaido has 300 M over Linlin.
Marco case wouldn't work since he never started piracy as original member and wasn't top 2 the first 7-12 years of his piracy
The difference between Marco and king or kata is that Marco starter piracy as apprentice, then was rookie.
wB top 3/4 over the years :
33-30 years ago: Rakuyo, Whitebay and Vista
30-26 years ago: Oden, Vista and Rakuyo
25-22 years ago : Vista, Rakuyo and Marco
22-? : Vista, Marco and Jozu
Somewhere inbetween : Marco and Jozu become top 2 above Vista.
4-2 years ago: Marco, Jozu, Ace /vista
He started being showj to be as core top member 22 years ago... when he was 23
While
King and Queen have been Kaido's top 2 for 28-33 years (well if since we don't see kaido having any other top pirates before them) ! They've been crazy since then.
Katakuri has been top 3 for 33 years. Top 1 for 26+ years.
He was top 3 with Perospero and Streussen
Cracker takes over Streussen probably 20-25 years ago.
(smoothie gets to be top 3 only 12-6 years ago i bet since she's 35. She couldn't be SC 15+ years ago)
Benn and Yassop had their fames before joining shanks.
Benn been Shanks top 1 for 24 years since then.
Both can do other side quest
Once again you don't understand how bounty works
Marco never made his own fame before or under WB's leadership! :
Marco has no legend
Marco isn't a crazy bastard like Calamities
Marco doesn't threaten civilians
Marco has accomplished nothing in NW except Ls. Nobody speak of Marco's insane feats.
His presence /threat level was never compared to WB.
Marco solely benefits from being WB's lackey while being a phoenix
Freaking Katakuri has a legend, threat above Linlin in luffy and capone eyes...
But only 1b, barely above Jack
Luffy did lots of stuff yet had a bounty below dudes who are more cruel.
I wouldn't be shocked if Benn, yassoo and roo have lesser bounties than King and Queen too
They never said they had the highest bounties among YCs but rather that the whole main crew (excluding Shanks ) has the highest average * bounty.
Dudes like King or Queen or Jack will always be viewed as bigger threats as they have no morals
They just attack like madmen for fun or if they don't get answers.
Sabo threatens WG yet bounty barely above 600M
Among veteran pirates :
King and Queen have 300M over Katakuri like how Kaido has 300 M over Linlin.
Marco case wouldn't work since he never started piracy as original member and wasn't top 2 the first 7-12 years of his piracy
The difference between Marco and king or kata is that Marco starter piracy as apprentice, then was rookie.
wB top 3/4 over the years :
33-30 years ago: Rakuyo, Whitebay and Vista
30-26 years ago: Oden, Vista and Rakuyo
25-22 years ago : Vista, Rakuyo and Marco
22-? : Vista, Marco and Jozu
Somewhere inbetween : Marco and Jozu become top 2 above Vista.
4-2 years ago: Marco, Jozu, Ace /vista
He started being showj to be as core top member 22 years ago... when he was 23
While
King and Queen have been Kaido's top 2 for 28-33 years (well if since we don't see kaido having any other top pirates before them) ! They've been crazy since then.
Katakuri has been top 3 for 33 years. Top 1 for 26+ years.
He was top 3 with Perospero and Streussen
Cracker takes over Streussen probably 20-25 years ago.
(smoothie gets to be top 3 only 12-6 years ago i bet since she's 35. She couldn't be SC 15+ years ago)
Benn and Yassop had their fames before joining shanks.
Benn been Shanks top 1 for 24 years since then.
Bruh, both King and Queen have taken a fair bit of damage.
Actually, this is just objectively wrong. Marco was the most notorious subordinate Whitebeard had on his crew, and has the respect of even emperors like Big Mum. That's not even mentioning that Shank's instantly recognized and immediately offered him a position on his own crew(specifically calling out Marco among all the other members of the crew).
No, he was said to "maybe" be comparable to an emperor when analysed by the world elders.
Yeah, he is legendary among the big mum pirates, because his their second strongest guy. Again, this legend doesn't really seem to hold that much weight for other people in the new world. In the grand scheme of the new world, even Queen would probably be considered a far bigger deal than Katakuri.
By this basis Katakuri's bounty should be that big?
I'm not saying that Ben and Yasopp couldn't have higher bounties than Marco, but I don't see how Marco's bounty would be lower than Queen's when he was in charge of the fucking Whitebeard pirates and was a notorious pirate in his own right where even emperors respect him and hold him in high regard.
Anyway, how does this counter the idea that Marco's bounty wouldn't have increased after taking helm of the Whitebeard pirates? He was in control of the remnants of the strongest pirate crew in the world.
Actually, this is just objectively wrong. Marco was the most notorious subordinate Whitebeard had on his crew, and has the respect of even emperors like Big Mum. That's not even mentioning that Shank's instantly recognized and immediately offered him a position on his own crew(specifically calling out Marco among all the other members of the crew).
No, he was said to "maybe" be comparable to an emperor when analysed by the world elders.
Yeah, he is legendary among the big mum pirates, because his their second strongest guy. Again, this legend doesn't really seem to hold that much weight for other people in the new world. In the grand scheme of the new world, even Queen would probably be considered a far bigger deal than Katakuri.
By this basis Katakuri's bounty should be that big?
I'm not saying that Ben and Yasopp couldn't have higher bounties than Marco, but I don't see how Marco's bounty would be lower than Queen's when he was in charge of the fucking Whitebeard pirates and was a notorious pirate in his own right where even emperors respect him and hold him in high regard.
Anyway, how does this counter the idea that Marco's bounty wouldn't have increased after taking helm of the Whitebeard pirates? He was in control of the remnants of the strongest pirate crew in the world.
J
BMP and BP are counterparts
WBP and BMP have contrasts and similarities
Marco isn't Katakuri but Cracker/Perospero
Oden was Katakuri...Ace the second Oden but he died young.
How is Apoo and Hawkins having 1B tho?
Yeah Marco would have 1.5+ post wano if he is alive still.
Most notorious says who?
Anybody can tell quick a top figher of Yonko
Even Peropsero is recognised by other crews lol
Marco...the RH of WBP
Marco the commander of WBP
Marco and the rest Of WBP
Nobidy actually talks about Marco himself being great on his own for his skills or fame or legend
Nothing.
He is either always grouped with Joxu and rest or they just talk about him being a phoenix and being ex commander of WBP
You can't expect YC bounties to make sense when they aren't captains,
Especially Marco who hasn't been top 2 of his crew longer than Katakuri or King have been for their crews.
Youngest commanders:
Ace 550M
Jack 1B
Snack 600M
Seeing that Snack is 5oM above Ace...Jack has 400+ above them ,we can guest
Veterans : :
Vista 750-850M
Cracker 860M
Jozu 850M-930M
Smoothie 932M
Queen 1.32B
Marco 900-1B
King 1.33 B
Katakuri 1B
But we know Oda would give Marco 1B+
Vista and Joxu will be in the 900M
WBP and BMP have contrasts and similarities
Marco isn't Katakuri but Cracker/Perospero
Oden was Katakuri...Ace the second Oden but he died young.
How is Apoo and Hawkins having 1B tho?
Yeah Marco would have 1.5+ post wano if he is alive still.
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Most notorious says who?
Anybody can tell quick a top figher of Yonko
Even Peropsero is recognised by other crews lol
Marco...the RH of WBP
Marco the commander of WBP
Marco and the rest Of WBP
Nobidy actually talks about Marco himself being great on his own for his skills or fame or legend
Nothing.
He is either always grouped with Joxu and rest or they just talk about him being a phoenix and being ex commander of WBP
You can't expect YC bounties to make sense when they aren't captains,
Especially Marco who hasn't been top 2 of his crew longer than Katakuri or King have been for their crews.
Youngest commanders:
Ace 550M
Jack 1B
Snack 600M
Seeing that Snack is 5oM above Ace...Jack has 400+ above them ,we can guest
Veterans : :
Vista 750-850M
Cracker 860M
Jozu 850M-930M
Smoothie 932M
Queen 1.32B
Marco 900-1B
King 1.33 B
Katakuri 1B
But we know Oda would give Marco 1B+
Vista and Joxu will be in the 900M
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Your point isn't even comparable, because Perospero was the only Big Mum pirate actually there.
My point was that not only was Marco specifically called out from all the other Whitebeard pirates, and specifically asked by Shank's, as opposed to everyone else(including other top fighters), to join his crew.
No one has ever mentioned Katakuri outside of the Big Mum pirates.
At least Marco was bought up in discussion about pirates who could potentially take out Blackbeard. Its also worth noting that if Marco was such a small deal, then the payback war wouldn't have been such a big event that somehow elevated Blackbeard to the level of one of the four emperors, and give him a bounty that currently far surpasses Luffy's.
Actually, this is not the case. Marco is usually referred to by himself. Jozu is never mentioned or highlighted specifically outside of the context of being another commander, while Marco is distinguished even among the other top commanders(this is outside of the context of battle).
Dude, Marco had been with the Whitebeard pirates for 26 years at least. That's more than a long enough reputation(considering he was probably the strongest for 20 years).
Marco is a huge deal, a far bigger deal than King or Katakuri was, so I'd think it would only be reasonable that he probably got a bounty at least comparable to Luffy's currently.
My point was that not only was Marco specifically called out from all the other Whitebeard pirates, and specifically asked by Shank's, as opposed to everyone else(including other top fighters), to join his crew.
No one has ever mentioned Katakuri outside of the Big Mum pirates.
At least Marco was bought up in discussion about pirates who could potentially take out Blackbeard. Its also worth noting that if Marco was such a small deal, then the payback war wouldn't have been such a big event that somehow elevated Blackbeard to the level of one of the four emperors, and give him a bounty that currently far surpasses Luffy's.
Actually, this is not the case. Marco is usually referred to by himself. Jozu is never mentioned or highlighted specifically outside of the context of being another commander, while Marco is distinguished even among the other top commanders(this is outside of the context of battle).
Dude, Marco had been with the Whitebeard pirates for 26 years at least. That's more than a long enough reputation(considering he was probably the strongest for 20 years).
Marco is a huge deal, a far bigger deal than King or Katakuri was, so I'd think it would only be reasonable that he probably got a bounty at least comparable to Luffy's currently.
J
From the manga
Marco wasn't top 2 of WBP until 24-22 years ago
Marco ganboys thinks Marco is a legend or had some fame lol
If he was that great, he'd be given higher intro in wano not replicate King's feat or be paired with Pero.
Thank Kuzan for taking jozu limb
Oda wouldn't introduced Marco with jozu if Marco was a tier above him
That's why he had to make Jozu lose a limb, kill Ace so that Marco gets to shine as leader of WBP .
A huge deal that has done nothing in NW except be WB'S lackey? He's not a legend in his crew nor has legends
He's not a conqueror
He's not even a crazy pirate
Marco 1.4 max if Oda wanna make him look good
1.2 or 1.1 B is logical since I dont see anything going for him except "he fought wars he never won, lost badly"
1B minimum
Marco wasn't top 2 of WBP until 24-22 years ago
Marco ganboys thinks Marco is a legend or had some fame lol
If he was that great, he'd be given higher intro in wano not replicate King's feat or be paired with Pero.
Thank Kuzan for taking jozu limb
Oda wouldn't introduced Marco with jozu if Marco was a tier above him
That's why he had to make Jozu lose a limb, kill Ace so that Marco gets to shine as leader of WBP .
A huge deal that has done nothing in NW except be WB'S lackey? He's not a legend in his crew nor has legends
He's not a conqueror
He's not even a crazy pirate
Marco 1.4 max if Oda wanna make him look good
1.2 or 1.1 B is logical since I dont see anything going for him except "he fought wars he never won, lost badly"
1B minimum
