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Who is the Strawhats Vice-Captain


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The general notion of the "vice-captain" is the second in command someone who is capable to take the helm when the captain is not present (Imo its zoro I'll give my perspective at the end) . In the case of Straw hat Pirates
its a bit intrinsic than one thinks it really is, from a direct sight one assumes that Zoro is the vice captain coz he is the first mate, but which gets negated since we know oda planned on keeping ussop as a vise captain,
even the viver card states that zoro has "acted" like the vise captain in certain scenarios as a voice of reason like in water 7 reminding luffy who he is and makes him realize the pedestal he stands upon is that of a pivotal head of thr crew,but it doesn't really emphatically points out that he is the second in command ir the vice captain.. but if that's how you determined who's the vice captain then.. you have another solid example as sanji.

Now here is the thing, sanji also has played the role of being incentive of morale for others like Vivi in Alabasta and ussop in Enies lobby, And and also led a part of the crew to a separate expedition but does that mean that he factually is the Vice captain? both zoro and sanji have done alot for their crews

Theyy both lead the vanguard of the crew into battles.. if the Cap is not present..like in the case of thriller bark, they both have even protected the crew by going on out alone and defending it, in zoro's case it was Whisky peaks and in sanji's was the whole alabasta arc and enies lobby and have sacrificed themselves for the crew and their captain...it doesn't end here, now in comes jimbe. In WCI jimbe was in charge of the whole crew when Luffy was in midst of his fight with katakuri and sanji gone to stop BM's hunger pangs, not only that but he even raised the crew's morale after Pedro's death, just like zoro and sanji did, they 3 have striking parallels and well suited characteristics to become the Vice captain..

But here's this catch with sanji, unlike the other 2 he goes off and does his thing to protect the crew but in certain situations you can rely on him as the Command center of crew at hand like The Twirly pirates in Zou..and that was a rare occasion as well...if it was zoro instead of sanji he'd do the same if he understood law's plan.

I think we can come to a conclusion that its very very circumstantial that each if them become the Vice captain of their crew when luffy isn't there , and coincidentally if sanji is in charge zoro isn't there, and if zoro is then sanji isn't there, and if both of them are there then they both usually do their own thing but collaborate when it comes down to it, like in thriller bark... and when both of them aren't there then jimbe becomes the command center.

But Imo even if you "can" come to the conclusion above... portrayal wise Zoro takes the role.. he has been with luffy through thick and thin even more than sanji has been where sanji goes his own way to protect the crew. I just read thriller bark and noticed zoro was more worried about luffy's shadow than his own and everyone agreed waiting for luffy to come back is a gamble this just means that the captain is first priority no matter what and that notion of staying with the Captain! portrayal wise the story SHOUTS that zoro is the 2nd in command.. the reason why zoro is there on the roof top is due to him being by Luffy in the light luffy has been in and obviously is parallel with Killer.. who is only another Vice cap in in the SN's. Ifzoro isn't available one can always count on sanji's expertise to guide them the same goes with jimbe... just like kaido has 3 right hand men with king taking the highest command.. you can comparatively say the same for zoro, sanji, and jimbe, so if luffy had to split his crew he'd have these 3 as the heads of each respective team.

Btw thriller bark is a must read.

*edit : this is my opinion should be obvious
In reality there is not even much to think about. Zoro is the one who most of all takes the lead when Luffy isn't around or when Luffy is making a bad decision. Sanji and Nami also had their "VC" moments, but casually always when Zoro wasn't around. Conversely, Zoro has always acted as a VC regardless of the presence of Sanji and Nami. Everyone in the crew is free to say their own opinion and oppose Luffy's, but remaining within the limit, no one has ever done it like Zoro. And it is useless to reiterate the obvious: Zoro is the only member considered VC (or sometimes even captain), both by the characters of One Piece and by the databooks
 
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In reality there is not even much to think about. Zoro is the one who most of all takes the lead when Luffy isn't around or when Luffy is making a bad decision. Sanji and Nami also had their "VC" moments, but casually always when Zoro wasn't around. Conversely, Zoro has always acted as a VC regardless of the presence of Sanji and Nami. Everyone in the crew is free to say their own opinion and oppose Luffy's, but no one has ever done it like Zoro. And it is useless to reiterate the obvious: Zoro is the only member considered VC (or sometimes even captain), both by the کو characters of One Piece and by the databooks
the point is the data book is ambiguous when it come to this well the viver card ig idk about the data book if it says it ot not, but i had to put things into a very detailed perspective for this one.. since even someone like sanji is indispensable who basically has the less integral job which is cooking compared to other.. and luffy was hesitant yet agreed to leave ussop until his apologized...even when luffy didn't know what was up with sanji and still went that extra mile which even nami couldn't stoo him from ig sanji even understands that zoro is VC regardless.. even tho circumstances may entail the 3 monster of the crew to lead it, Zoro remains as the VC.. and indispensable indeed
 
the point is the data book is ambiguous when it come to this well the viver card ig idk about the data book if it says it ot not, but i had to put things into a very detailed perspective for this one.. since even someone like sanji is indispensable who basically has the less integral job which is cooking compared to other.. and luffy was hesitant yet agreed to leave ussop until his apologized...even when luffy didn't know what was up with sanji and still went that extra mile which even nami couldn't stoo him from ig sanji even understands that zoro is VC regardless.. even tho circumstances may entail the 3 monster of the crew to lead it, Zoro remains as the VC.. and indispensable indeed
Yeah that's what I say too: all the members are important and have had their moments, but the VC is clearly Zoro
 
Well the problem is that Zoro in the OP world is considered vice-captain. In the crew he has played this role many times, so actually there isn't much to say, it is clearly Zoro
He would considered the VC because he stands out the most. Every other Strawhats have their "vice captain" moments before but the one that fits for VC the most is Zoro is what I'm trying to say. I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, I'm just backing up your points.
 

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Zoro Worshipper
He would considered the VC because he stands out the most. Every other Strawhats have their "vice captain" moments before but the one that fits for VC the most is Zoro is what I'm trying to say. I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, I'm just backing up your points.
At the end of the day it's not necessarily mandatory that Luffy picks Zoro as VC, if something occurred to Luffy it's very likely that he would get in command, remember what he claimed to Luffy in case he would have been left behind?
 
At the end of the day it's not necessarily mandatory that Luffy picks Zoro as VC, if something occurred to Luffy it's very likely that he would get in command
In my opinion Oda, at least for now, cannot or does not consider it necessary to say this, but it is quite obvious that Zoro is the highest rated member to be the VC, the reasons are many.
remember what he claimed to Luffy in case he would have been left behind?
Oh, help, I don't remember this 🤔
 
Zoro will always be the one to hold Luffy to the standards of a captain meanwhile Sanji will always defend and empower the crew. They play different roles, but ultimately the straw hats need both of them or Luffy would be a worst captain and the crew would not be who they are. Water 7 and Enies Lobby showed this the best. The term vice captain doesn’t exist for the straw hats because theres no hierarchy. It’s not that their isn’t a power structure, there is hence why in sabaody Luffy Zoro and Sanji each tried to escape with their own squad.

Those three are the leaders. Luffy as the captain with Zoro and Sanji as his two best men/his right and left hands/whatever you wanna call them.
 
Zoro will always be the one to hold Luffy to the standards of a captain meanwhile Sanji will always defend and empower the crew. They play different roles, but ultimately the straw hats need both of them or Luffy would be a worst captain and the crew would not be who they are. Water 7 and Enies Lobby showed this the best. The term vice captain doesn’t exist for the straw hats because theres no hierarchy. It’s not that their isn’t a power structure, there is hence why in sabaody Luffy Zoro and Sanji each tried to escape with their own squad.

Those three are the leaders. Luffy as the captain with Zoro and Sanji as his two best men/his right and left hands/whatever you wanna call them.
It's true, in straw hats I don't think there is a hierarchy, but I think that Zoro is considered by all to be Luffy's right hand, it cannot be coincidental that Oda himself has mentioned this role several times, it means that he also holds it into account. Sanji is part of the monster trio and he is important, but Oda has repeatedly made it clear/seems that Zoro as a member of the crew has something more
 
It's true, in straw hats I don't think there is a hierarchy, but I think that Zoro is considered by all to be Luffy's right hand, it cannot be coincidental that Oda himself has mentioned this role several times, it means that he also holds it into account. Sanji is part of the monster trio and he is important, but Oda has repeatedly made it clear/seems that Zoro as a member of the crew has something more
He’s made it clear that Zoro is Luffys right hand man, however, when it comes to the crew, Oda has made it clear that Sanji is the second leader. The crew listens to him and named him captain during emergency times.

This works with their characters too as Zoros top priority is Luffy. He doesn’t care what Luffy does as long as Luffy remains a trustworthy captain. Sanjis top priority is the crew. He stands up for them and protects them from even Luffy.
 
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