Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

[5000 ng/dl or death]

- It started from here :

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Luffy : Hoi! a big one is coming!

Kaido : Hope your body can do it, old hag!
Big Mom : Who are you talking to, kid?!

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Zoro : This one ... it's not possible!

Killer : It's impossible, we can't dodge this one!

Big Mom / Kaido : Hakai!

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Zoro went to block it and started that action .​

Kaido : Hmm ?
Big Mom : !!!

Big mom and Kaido noticed it .
let's say it's two seconds .​

Zoro : Run away guys!!
Luffy : Zoro !

Zoro : You will be annihilated!

Zoro while blocking he talked to others while Luffy is worried again about him and Zoro warned them yet again and we have Zoro appearing in front of Kid and he was still blocking it .
this action needs at least 9 seconds (using a chronometre) to be completed .

then he appeared still blocking it and Law uses shambles to teleport him ( 1 second ) .

so Zoro blocked this island attack for :

2 sec + 9 sec + 1 sec = 12 sec

@Cinera

Ahm bro admirals deflected WB attack they didn't block it

fenaker > Cinera

Candypiece is over and will always be viewed in the shadow of Bandana Piee

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

 

[Marimo_420]

Kidd always looked like an arrogant ungrateful fuck but i guess he's not

He probably still is a

akainu and prime koby would dead for this attack

Just Prime Coby.

Akainu walks through this.

 

[yorosenpai]

- It started from here :

Spoiler

Luffy : Hoi! a big one is coming!

Kaido : Hope your body can do it, old hag!
Big Mom : Who are you talking to, kid?!

Spoiler

Zoro : This one ... it's not possible!

Killer : It's impossible, we can't dodge this one!

Big Mom / Kaido : Hakai!

||||||||||||||||

Zoro went to block it and started that action .​

Kaido : Hmm ?
Big Mom : !!!

Big mom and Kaido noticed it .
let's say it's two seconds .​

Zoro : Run away guys!!
Luffy : Zoro !

Zoro : You will be annihilated!

Zoro while blocking he talked to others while Luffy is worried again about him and Zoro warned them yet again and we have Zoro appearing in front of Kid and he was still blocking it .
this action needs at least 9 seconds (using a chronometre) to be completed .

then he appeared still blocking it and Law uses shambles to teleport him ( 1 second ) .

so Zoro blocked this island attack for :

2 sec + 9 sec + 1 sec = 12 sec

@Cinera

Ahm bro admirals deflected WB attack they didn't block it

fenaker > Cinera

This is a realistic interpretation of the manga. I am pretty sure that Zoro hold that blast for a decent amount of time

 

[Sentinel]

Why do you think that Kaido alone can produce an attack stronger than Hybrid Kaido and Mama working together?

Awakening + ultimate finisher or something like that.

 

[Quert001]

Zoro blocking that attack will look glorious in the anime. Hopefully TOEI makes it an episode long zoro blocking that attack just to make sanji fans more salty.
I cant wait

 

[Weeman]

Papa Zoro carried them so hard this chapter his back broke, so ZKK is off the table now.

 

[stealthblack]

zoro the first one defeated

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Zoro stopped it in his tracks Lmfaooooooo

But but but He weak. But but he doesn't deserve to be on the roof,, but but Commanders lmfao

but kata>zoro

 

[Paperchampion23]

have to say
hybrid kaido looks better visually this chap
the design isnt too bad.

Something tells me it will be like Lucci and Seimei Kikan.

Oda showed off Lucci's zoan first, but then revealed an even faster/deadlier form mid fight with Luffy.

Got a feeling Kaido is hiding his true power behind awakening. This hybrid actually looks way too human-like, even for a reptilian/fish mythical zoan. That's why I think Awakening is going to play a big part this fight with Kaido.

If Oda made a point for Doflamingo and Katakuri to show it off for paramecia, chances are Kaido will do it truly for zoan (discounting the impel down stuff when it was clearly an underdeveloped concept). Akainuwill probably show it off for the Logia

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro blocking that attack will look glorious in the anime. Hopefully TOEI makes it an episode long zoro blocking that attack just to make sanji fans more salty.
I cant wait

Wano is turning so epic even the epicness of One Piece movies will have to compete with the epicness of the anime soon.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

zoro the first one defeated

like mr1 or oars
Asura is near:cheers::cheers::cheers:

 

[Cinera]

1. Reaction speed: Batman: Dude seriously, that's something powerlevel based for you?
That's imo some random ass story scene.
Imo that goes back to personality traits and simple characterization. Nothing power level based for me entirely.
And in that Apo scene Luffy knew just aswell something's coming- How's that suppose to indicate any form of superiority?

Yes. Zoro canonically reacter to an attack from an FS user before Luffy.

For the two known rooftop scenes:
Similiar to Law he just has Luffy's back.
They keep an eye on him and help him out, while he's in the middle of the Yonkou trouble. That certainly does not indicate any form of superiority either for me.
Easier job to observe from a safe distance and anticipate than dealing with that stuff directly.
Or do you think Law also has superior reaction speed compared to Luffy, which you would have to assume if you base your analysis on such scenes, cause he helped him the same way.

I think it disproves any notion that Luffy has superior reactions to them because of his future sight.

In that one scene he even just came out of a a half dodged Thunder Bagua, an attack no one besides him is factually able to dodge, cause they lack exactly that one ability that makes you even able to react to it somewhat in the first place. It's actually a positive feat for Luffy

1. We've never seen Hybrid Kaido use Thunder Bagua against the other Supernova on panel, so we have no idea how they would handle it.
2. There's no comparison between Luffy and Zoro here.

When Luffy and Zoro's reaction speeds were compared, Zoro always performed better.


Anyway, at this point Zoro clearly beats Katakuri. Here's how their stats compare:

• Offensive prowess: Zoro by far
  • Hiryuu Kaen was implied to severely damage Kaido if not fatally wound him
• Defensive prowess: Zoro far
  • Blocking Hakai created a massive shockwave with a radius larger than Onigashma:
    
  • Zoro canonically has island level defensive prowess
• COO: Katakuri has a decisive advantage
  • Future Sight
• COA: Zoro by far
  • Overflowing Hardening on Enma
  • Island level barrier haki to block Hakai
• Range: Zoro
  • Several kilometres with his flying slashes
• Reactions: unknown
  • Katakuri has an advantage with Future Sight
  • Zoro has feats of outreacting Future Sight Luffy
• Attack Speed: unknown
  • Zoro has feats of blitzing several characters
    • Mama
      • From several dozen metres away to intercept Heavenly Fire
      • To cut Prometheus in this chapter
    • Apoo
      • While Drake was in the middle of an attack
  • Katakuri kept up with Snakeman
• X Factors
  • Katakuri's Awakening
  • Zoro has several hundred metres AOE with attacks like Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki
• Endurance: Zoro
  • He withstood several attacks from the Yonkou
    • Indra
    • God of Lightning: Tenjin
    • Hakai for a few seconds
    • Several attacks off panel from Hybrid Kaido and Prometheus fused Mama

Future Sight and Awakening might give Zoro some difficulties, but Zoro can essentially oneshot Katakuri, while Kata failed to put down Luffy even after literally a hundred hits.

At worst Zoro takes this match at high difficulty, but a medium difficulty battle is possible (if Zoro resorts to Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki early on and Kata is unable to adequately respond).


@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung, @LANJI CUCKSMOKE, @Sentinel, @playa4321.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Luffy also got hit by Ragnarok Fair and Square
Zoro and Luffy must be Heavily injured next chapter

 

[Paperchampion23]

Nice to see people also believing that awakening has a third form. Yes judging how Monster Chopper was loooking like, I assume Kaido in his awakened form gonna be more dragonlike.
Big mom and he get portrayal close and Linlin didn't use her awakening too.

The question is when he gonna use it, probably after the flyera going to take down?
I assume the calamity have a awaknened zoan form too.

Actually my hope is that Chopper forces true awakening when he takes 2 or 3 rumble balls. Monster point might be a sign of it, but I hope Oda has even more monstrous forms for Chopper coming, especially now

 

[rerere]

Hope next chapter will have heavy action/feats from Killer

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Candypiece is over and will always be viewed in the shadow of Bandana Piee

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

It's Zergo piece

If sanji kicked Queen and made him bleeding you know what that means for Right leg squad

 

[HA001]

zoro the first one defeated

 

[Peroroncino]

Hope next chapter will have heavy action/feats from Killer

it will probably be a dome chapter

 

[Extravlad]

923 : Thunder Bagua oneshots Luffy.

Luffy trains his Ryuou 2 weeks

And now he has tanked

-Thunder Bagua (1001)
-Heavenly Bonbon (1001)
-Boro Breath (1002)
-Two unseen attacks that made him fly (1008)
-Lord of 3 Hell/Realms (1009)
-Unknown beam attack (1009)
-Ragnarok (1009)

Kaido oneshotting Luffy early wano was so silly.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

@Finalbeta @Cinera