Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1010 Spoilers Discussion

[Black Lord Sanji]

Togen totsuka still. Zoro's asura couldn't make Kaido fall. Oden's not only did, but it gave him an opportunity to finish him off

Eh but you gotta understand the context of the situation that tho. That was kaido of 20 years ago and he wasn’t in his hybrid form. The kaido of now is most likely stronger and is literally in a stronger form in hybrid mode. So an argument definitely can be made zoro’s attack was more stronger. Not saying definitely tho

 

[Doggo]

I wonder what new PU's Luffy is still going to get until EoS.
Awaken DF?
Another level of CoC?
A second level of Awakening?
Meh.

 

[Gintoki]

He took the collateral damage

He didn't tank the full hit.......just coc wave

Eh, pretty sure Kaido hit them one at a time

 

[Ice devil slayer]

I mean Oden fucked up dragon kaido
That was flashback Kaido

Now Kaido should be stronger more durable etc

I would say equal

 

[BleakAsh]

base Luffy tanking Ragnarok without any kind of protection and rising up like 5 seconds after that..............

this isn't new tho innt.. against katakuri as well

 

[Rayleigh-Sama]

If Luffy can tangle with Kaido for hours in his base.....
Then is Future Sight + Ryou + HAOSHOKU PROJECTION Luffy low admiral/top tier level in base?

i'd say base luffy is low top-tier

 

[zzShinichi]

Man i thought I was tripping when I first saw 9 Enma, but then left out a sigh of relief when there's Wado and Sandai as well.
Can you imagine the outbreak if Zoro only used Enma to do Asura?

 

[Bullet]

Again cap. One took on a combined attack of two yonkos and has broken bones confirmed by law and the other doesn't.

Why that matters?
Characters do their strongest moves when they are at brink of collapsing like every time
This Asura attack is not weaker than what he would have been capable of before hakai if that is what you are pushing
Luffy was the target of Kaido and Bigmom ans been attacked more than everyone
Zoro took hakai for 1 second and using swords to block while Luffy took Kaido's club to the head
Zoro gave everything he had
Yet Luffy is more effective in base form

 

[BleakAsh]

-stopping an attack of 2 yonkos
-giving kaido a permanent scar
don't be Greedy people...

IKR

 

[hedera__helix]

Lanji’s last 1v1 win was 15 years ago and candies think they can make fun of Zoro being a confirmed CoC user and permanently scarring Kaido



Make it make sense

 

[5000 ng/dl or death]

Eh, pretty sure Kaido hit them one at a time

 

[Doggo]

I don't see any Black Lightning when Zoro uses Ashura the way it appears when Luffy uses the advanced CoC, so i guess, he did not use the same thing with it ?

@Cinera

So Kaido just felt that he is a conqueror the way he did when he beat up Luffy the first time ?

I would much rather Zoro have a CoA so powerful, that is LOOKS like he is using the CoC enhancing shit.
Would really fit his CoA-specialist thing and make it a thing of his own.

 

[BleakAsh]

i'd say base luffy is low top-tier

strength hierarchy wise i'd he's an admiral fr

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

feel bad for Kaido

he was right there will never be a samurai like Oden

Zolo is like a duet Oden and even that is an overstatement

Kaido didn't give a fuck about Zolo

Cap

 

[hedera__helix]

So who was the wss during his era?

we don’t know yet

 

[ZoroMazino]

I don't see any Black Lightning when Zoro uses Ashura the way it appears when Luffy uses the advanced CoC, so i guess, he did not use the same thing with it ?

@Cinera

So Kaido just felt that he is a conqueror the way he did when he beat up Luffy the first time ?

Zoro for now has just CoC

 

[kom5]

Luffy Will look good for one chapter and half at best then kaido massacre him.

The fight against kaido didint even reach 50% yet. Kaido wont fall until the fights below are finished. And some of them didint even started.

I get the feeling Kaido is losing here

 

[Xlaw]

There is still room for awakening in the end....hype

 

[Guymieux]

Why that matters?
Characters do their strongest moves when they are at brink of collapsing like every time
This Asura attack is not weaker than what he would have been capable of before hakai if that is what you are pushing
Luffy was the target of Kaido and Bigmom ans been attacked more than everyone
Zoro took hakai for 1 second and using swords to block while Luffy took Kaido's club to the head
Zoro gave everything he had
Yet Luffy is more effective in base form

Luffy is not more effective . Zoro did way more damage he did an oden level feat on hybrid kaido . Luffy added on tot hat with punches that actuall work .

 

[ErionRoronoa]

You realize one is punching the other one is using swords right?
Zoro puts every thing he had in this attack and collapses one second later
Luffy is spamming these attacks that hurt Kaido
Base Luffy is above Zoro

Base Luffy is above hybrid Kaido too at this point. He fucked him up pretty bad. Why don't you put base Luffy above hybrid Kaido too LOL?
That's called shitty and rushed writing man. Base Luffy > hybrid Kaido.