Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1010 Spoilers Discussion

[Lukegranders]

Raws coming today?

They already out

 

[humanbeing]

Luffy gave Law and Zoro a task. Luffy want to boost up the spirits of his alliance.

 

[yorosenpai]

-stopping an attack of 2 yonkos
-giving kaido a permanent scar
don't be Greedy people...

I am happy how Oda used Zoro so far, how in the world can we all complain about him, he really sacrifice for Luffy (I dont know how many times he carried Luffy on his shulder in this fight). In any case, if we take that Luffy was like this:

And we know that Luffy stood up after some minuts.
This is Zoro at the end of the chapter:

We know from preview arcs and chapters, even from the current fight in Onigashima - That Zoro stood up even after Hackay.
Kaido is the one that was surprise about CoC in the case of Zoro, he hasnt realize it yet, but that stuff will come back later.
I know that Luffy will have a 1 vs 1 but I know as well that other plots need to be confronted again with Kaido.
I will wait for the end, in any case exited for what Zoro will bring, now that he has reached his limit, Rayleigh@the old grampa in Wano said that you grown exponentially when you reach your limits (zoro said that he has reached his limit) that is not equal to I am done but in One Piece is equal I ll get much stronger very soon. Not only luffy has this characterstic it was also in the case of Zoro vs Mister 1, when he unlocked the breath off all thing. Now is time that Zoro figurate out what that CoC that Kaido is talking.

 

[5000 ng/dl or death]

btw kata was the gatekeeper of the yonko lvl territory...

 

[lee33]

Yea that doesn't make sense at all, plus reyleigh was ambiguous when he said that in some rare cases people can manifest another for of haki, so zoro having the ability to manifest his spirit.. and doesn't even know that he has COC... and Mihawk WSS training zoro doesn't even know he has Coc...... why does it seem like Oda is pulling a sneaky one on us again... its April after all

Luffy didn’t know he had COC. Ace didn’t know he had COC. Not sure what y’all getting at.

 

[ReggieZoldyck21]

Killer isn t going anywhere . Zoro is coming back for luffy after his bloom to . Luffy and zoro end the arc top 2 supernovas . You see law looking amazed right he joins kid in that regard .

The top 2 Supernova are and will be the two captains facing each of the Yonko right now. Zoro has done great. Now his job is to fight Kaido’s underlings.

 

[Chrono]

So Base Luffy outshined Ashura and no more ZKK.......

 

[Fn Lucci]

What I don't like about CoC, is the way it is different from the other Hakis.
You are either BORN with it, or you don't. You can't "learn it".
Gives more of a "lucky" vibe than a "hardworking" one, especially when the character, at this point in the story, doesn't even fucking know he has it. One thing was Luffy pre TS, when he was a newbie. But Zoro after his 2 year training with Mihawk? Come on...that's REALLY pushing it.

Your disposition is the opposite of luck. It's your own personality.

People still taking the kaido got stronger line out of context.

Post timeskip luffy is way stronger then pre timeskip luffy but that doesn’t mean his skin got stronger.

He literally just got up from a hit at least as strong as the one that defeated him like a week ago. Asura Doji directly states that the Scabbards who aged got tougher. The government discussion explicitly stated that Kaido and Big Mom are more dangerous than they used to be. But oh no, the hybrid Kaido we didn't see in the flashback is the same guy Oden challenged to get stronger. Nope, nothing happened.

 

[Zolo]

base Luffy tanking Ragnarok without any kind of protection and rising up like 5 seconds after that..............

Enma hype the most magical sword second time enma did that

 

[Blackflamesanji]

can luffy beat fujitora now?

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

great explanation, some people really need to see this

What I am saying is Zoro is not just Using his haki, he also uses a special sword to help him utilize that haki. And in a SBS Oda told us that this haki is supposed to be his speciality. Yet he Cannot use advanced armament haki or whatever it is without that sword.

Now compare that to Luffy. Luffy learned to use an advanced Form of Armament haki just with instructions. He can do it with or without said sword even so he does NOT specialise in armament haki but King's haki.

Now think about it... Isn't it bizarre that Zoro can suddenly use advanced King's haki in a very special Form for 2 years yet not use "ryuo" Which Oda implies he should have natural Talent for while other people who do in fact specialise in King's haki don't have such forms revealed yet? Like the portrayal is just completely inverted. That is why I am a bit sceptical about ashura being King's haki.

We were on the same page but your are lost on a few things

1. Ryou is the projection of haki onto something other than yourself eg coating swords air punches etc etc

2. The ryou you are referring to is advanced armament that causes internal destruction.

Now the question is why would zoro have that if he is not a brawler and it contradicts his ability to cut?

 

[BleakAsh]

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Luffy didn’t know he had COC. Ace didn’t know he had COC. Not sure what y’all getting at.

at least reyleigh told him that he has Coc... Mihawk didn't even teach how to wield Coc to zoro

 

[sanjikun]

can luff beat fujitora now?

He's beating Kaido... So yeah....

 

[Sentinel]

base Luffy tanking Ragnarok without any kind of protection and rising up like 5 seconds after that..............

I can't wait to see statements after Kaido literally hit Luffy 30 - 50 times: "Kaido's trash", "Kaido has trash AP", "powder hits". :yasu:

 

[matt245]

They already out

Once again, I ask for the links pls.

 

[Pantheos]

He’s literally fighting with killer . Zoro isn’t done with kaido and he already has an oden level feat . You’re the one that needs to deal with it .

Dude, zoro is out of the fight. He was overwhelming strong, Impressive feats and did better then most expected. But he went all out, his captain Takes over. Something everyone told you since month.

But with this denial now, you literaly shit on he was able to do, cause it is still Not enough for your headcanon, and obviously he never will, cause Luffy will always be above him.

Your mistake is to take it as Downplay That stronger People exist. Luffy > Kid > Zoro, thats it for now and oda is Position this obviously. Still Zoro would Solo everyone under the roof.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Um, what? G4 is just a finisher at this point. He still hasn't even used G2/G3 yet. Imagine Red Hawk + CoC, or Elephant Gatling + CoC.

You don't really think Luffy is going to maintain this advantage until the end of the fight do you?

 

[Perun]

We have a good chapter,will give my thoughts tomorrow when it drops.

 

[Fn Lucci]

So Base Luffy outshined Ashura and no more ZKK.......

I have a feeling you'll welsh but let's account bet on Zoro getting back up within the war

 

[Gintoki]

Kaido is honestly insane. He has yet to use hardening to protect himself, literally just tanks and endure everything.

CoA Hardening is irrelevant to internal destruction CoA though and what more if it's CoC infused