Powers & Abilities Oda shafted Zoro last chapters

Adam 🍎

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#27
I really enjoyed it and it was extremely impressive in my opinion.

So i really assume, you guys just overhyped things and expected unrealistic stuff and now you stick to that expectation and cant enjoy his real impressive feats. :(
I dont even like Zoro nor do i care for feats that much post TS but even i was dissapointed.

Someone check if Cinera is alive
 

Adam 🍎

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#29
TBH i think people missubderstood what i meant with this post.

I just dont like lack of consistent power scalling where certain attacks or injuries dont hold the same weight they should

Zoro wounding Kaido should have been a more important moment for his character. Yet he did it first few min of their fight. Same as Scarabs
 

Pantheos

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#30
TBH i think people missubderstood what i meant with this post.

I just dont like lack of consistent power scalling where certain attacks or injuries dont hold the same weight they should

Zoro wounding Kaido should have been a more important moment for his character. Yet he did first few min of their fight. Same as Scarabs
But shouldnt you be then more arroused over the fact that Zoro more or less get that strong only by the training with Mihawk, while luffy needed all out fights inbetween? Isnt this way more inconsistent?
 

Adam 🍎

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#31
But shouldnt you be then more arroused over the fact that Zoro more or less get that strong only by the training with Mihawk, while luffy needed all out fights inbetween? Isnt this way more inconsistent?
Like i said, not big on powerscale since Oda does what Oda does.

My problem is when feats dont hold the meaning they should.
Katakuri stabs Luffy - Luffy doesnt even have a wound
Zoro uses Asura yet his attack is overshadowed in the same chapter by Luffy or his Dragon attack chapters before.

Actions should have meaning. Some weight on them. If Zoro wounded Kaido FIRST time with Asura imagine the weight that would have. But since we saw Zoro wound Kaido with Tatsumaki its like W/E
 
#32
Sometimes you have to remind yourself that this is not actually one piece but 'luffy piece'

Look at kidd, dude had a cool design, cool power and everything needed to become luffy's rival.

And look at him now, the most notable thing he did was throwing big mam in air.

If kidd remains the same for the rest of the raid, I don't even know why oda bothered to create a character like kidd.

I hope I am proved wrong though and hope luffy doesn't 1vs1 kaido but atleast have kidd fight alongside him.
 
#34
It's just that Oda doesn't want to Hype a Character too much at Cost of others
For example Zoro cutting Pica receiving much much greater Reaction than Zoro's Feats against Kaido
But that's because Zoro was Fighting Pica alone & everyone there are nowhere near Zoro's Level

But in this Roof Battle, the Focus is Worst Generation & even though Zoro did receive Best Portrayal & Hype before Luffy vs Kaido 1 v 1
Oda didn't want to make the Hype bigger because it would Ruin the Portrayal of other Supernova

However don't worry, Zoro's Chapter has yet to come, there are many Unfinished Scenes with Zoro:

01. Luffy learned about Internal Haki at same time Zoro heard about Black Blades
02. Luffy now realized how to do Adv CoC, so Zoro should realize how to make Black Blade soon
03. With Adv CoC, Luffy is now more Similar to Shanks, so Zoro should have a Black Blade soon to mirror Mihawk
04. Tenguyama hinted that Zoro will turn Enma Black this Arc
05. Wano Samurai are Perfect Audience to react to a New Black Sword Owner
06. Ryuma Feat of Slaying a Dragon was done with Shusui that is a Black Sword
07. Zoro missed his Hiryu Kaen Attack which Mirrored Ryuma's Attack so we need to see it Connect later in Arc
08. Zoro was Massively Nerfed in this Battle against Yonko clearly to keep his True Arc Moment for Later
09. Zoro admitted that giving Kaido a New Scar wasn't enough for him, meaning we will see him do more later (Killing Kaido)
10. Kaido & Orochi Mirror Morgan & Helmeppo so Zoro should Kill Kaido after Luffy finishes his 1 v 1 Fight with him
11. Kaido is a Zoan so even if he is Knocked Out, he should Get Up quickly Mirroring Morgan/Helmeppo Defeat Scene
12. There is still a Chapter named after Zoro for later
13. Chapter named after Chopper showed him Hitting Queen, so Zoro will definitely attack no less than Kaido in his Named Chapter
14. Zoro heard that he have CoC from Kaido & he will obviously think about it to become Stronger in this Arc
15. Kaido didn't give Zoro the Praise needed, nor did anyone claim that he Surpassed Oden yet, so it will happen Later
 
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#35
Before i go into this, keep in mind i am not a fan of Zoro as a character. That being said i think Oda did Zoro dirty last 2 chapters

I wanna touch Hakai first. Great feat by Zoro, stopped one of the biggest if not biggest attack in OP so far. So what was the reaction of people there?

You okay man?
Thank Zoro
You alive?
Worororo they evaded it

Thats it. Thats the shit you got for the reactions. What was one of the best feats to date got BARELY any recognition. Kaido that WANKED Oden didnt even have shit to say to Zoro despite Zoro IMO outperforming Oden there. The whole feat was made to feal like w/e, anyone there could do it. For me that dulled the moment despite the feat.


Next chapter.
Asura, oh boy

Last time we saw Ashura was in E.L. it was an attack fans were DYING to see. It was kept in the dark for YEARS. So how did it pan out?

Well consider the fact that in the same chapter of Zoro using Asura WITH CoC Oda made Kaido say LAW'S abilities are more troublesome....

LIKE WHAT.
Injection shot, an attack that barely did shit to Doffy is somehow more trouble for you than Asura or that Dragon attack? Really Oda? Really?

And then you have Kaido bleed from mouth in same amount from Asura and Injection Shot. Excuse me? That makes 0 SENSE.

Now you could say - but Beky Asura made a scar on Kaido...

Thats great fam. Zoro has been wounding Kaido entire arc, Scarabs wounded Kaido too. At this point wounding Zoro is the same feat as sleeping with BM. It doesnt hold any weight at all.

And if you still wanna claim scarring Kaido is good...
When Zoro scarred Kaido Kaido gave 0 shits
When Oden scarred Kaido Kaido got PTSD

And now the Asura damage
Asura damage is RIDICOLUSLY BAD. If wounding/scarring Kaido is so basic then what Asura did compared to injection shot is piss poor.

That one handed Dragon attack was more scary than Asura, fucking Asura we didnt see in years.


Oda's lack of consistency in my eyes took a shit on Zoro. His feats should have gotten more recognition and more meaning.

His "glory and praise" were sidelined for dumb shit.

Rant over
Your issue, imo, is that you think that it was Zoro big moment of the arc. And I think you are wrong.
Zoro big moment is yet to come and it will have the proper focus that it deserves.
 
#38
Before i go into this, keep in mind i am not a fan of Zoro as a character. That being said i think Oda did Zoro dirty last 2 chapters

I wanna touch Hakai first. Great feat by Zoro, stopped one of the biggest if not biggest attack in OP so far. So what was the reaction of people there?

You okay man?
Thank Zoro
You alive?
Worororo they evaded it

Thats it. Thats the shit you got for the reactions. What was one of the best feats to date got BARELY any recognition. Kaido that WANKED Oden didnt even have shit to say to Zoro despite Zoro IMO outperforming Oden there. The whole feat was made to feal like w/e, anyone there could do it. For me that dulled the moment despite the feat.


Next chapter.
Asura, oh boy

Last time we saw Ashura was in E.L. it was an attack fans were DYING to see. It was kept in the dark for YEARS. So how did it pan out?

Well consider the fact that in the same chapter of Zoro using Asura WITH CoC Oda made Kaido say LAW'S abilities are more troublesome....

LIKE WHAT.
Injection shot, an attack that barely did shit to Doffy is somehow more trouble for you than Asura or that Dragon attack? Really Oda? Really?

And then you have Kaido bleed from mouth in same amount from Asura and Injection Shot. Excuse me? That makes 0 SENSE.

Now you could say - but Beky Asura made a scar on Kaido...

Thats great fam. Zoro has been wounding Kaido entire arc, Scarabs wounded Kaido too. At this point wounding Zoro is the same feat as sleeping with BM. It doesnt hold any weight at all.

And if you still wanna claim scarring Kaido is good...
When Zoro scarred Kaido Kaido gave 0 shits
When Oden scarred Kaido Kaido got PTSD

And now the Asura damage
Asura damage is RIDICOLUSLY BAD. If wounding/scarring Kaido is so basic then what Asura did compared to injection shot is piss poor.

That one handed Dragon attack was more scary than Asura, fucking Asura we didnt see in years.


Oda's lack of consistency in my eyes took a shit on Zoro. His feats should have gotten more recognition and more meaning.

His "glory and praise" were sidelined for dumb shit.

Rant over
The only reason Zoro's permanent scar didn't had the same portrayal as Oden's scar it's because that's not gonna be the best feat from Zoro. Oda ain't gonna give all the spotlight now to Zoro when the ultimate feat is coming. I could be wrong but that's how i interpreted the chapter 1010.
You are talking about the guy who stole the show at TB and even now at the roof top when even Luffy the MC was there against two strongest of OP.
Don't forget it, there was only one attack Big Mom and Kaido were concerned and asked to dodge. Whatever if Kaido dodged or not, the whole fact Zoro couldn't touched with his hiryu kaen is more than enough to prove you that he could have literally killed Kaido.
 
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#40
I've complained a while ago about Oda's drawing in particular regarding big moment's we've been waiting for...

For example:
- Not drawing a big panel with details of the destruction caused by the attack and only zooming out like during Hakai attack... I literally didn't see the damage it caused on either Zoro's body nor the island... Law claimed Zoro's bones are crushed... then Oda SHOULD have drawn a panel like Hajrudin vs Machvice showing crushed bones or like Sanji vs Vergo...etc! And show the island destruction instead of zooming out

- I complained about Big Moments given small panels, and small moments that no one cares about given big panels

- I've complained about big impactful panels in double spread that Oda is drawing it on the left side, and not the right side... cause it spoils the reader, where he skips many smaller panels on the right... he should placed it on the top right, ALWAYS.

So, for me it's not a matter of Oda did Zoro dirty in particular, but rather I see bad representation for his drawings...

Like literally it annoys me so much when there is a big reveal in a double spread page, and that big panel is used on the left page, not the right page.... what should happen is you turn the page, you get shocked and surprised by the reveal and you basically are reading smoothly without skipping panels, but Oda has been lately doing it in the left page so many times it ruins many events
 
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