Current Events Luffy vs Kaido is a major asspull

Are you okay with how the Luffy vs Kaido fight is playing out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 72 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 72 50.0%

  • Total voters
    144
Well sure, only if you're stupid.

Theres no asspull here as that would imply theres no explanation for whats happening.

Which is clearly not the case if you've been reading the story.
Such a stupid take. Authors can bend the world and fabricate it to their will.

Explaining anything is easy. There's asspulls WITH clear explanations.
 

stairs-kun

Spoiler Provider
Think about it this way for the people wanking Zoro. Jozu stopped a slash that's 60-70% as strong as Hakai dead in its tracks. He had very little bruising and didn't move an inch. BM/Kaido slashes individually are not as strong as Mihawk's slash which was stated to be "the strongest in the world".



Jozu couldn't break out of parasite. Luffy broke out. Jozu is the strongest YC physically and Luffy shat on his strengths. But people kept making excuses.



Luffy was flooring Kaido without even using King Kong Gun, King Kong Gatling, etc...





All Luffy's offence was missing was strong Haki to be Yonko level. He had always had the ridiculous strength.

Zoro stomps Luffy. Go cry about it.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Zoro stomps Luffy. Go cry about it.
I would say they probably stand on similar power levels.

Zoro can presumably one shot Luffy with an Asura attack and probably speed blitz him too FS or not.

Luffy can presumably overpower Zoro's barrier with KKG and maybe one shot him. KKG is almost certainly weaker than Hakai AP wise, but its intrinsic strenght might break the barrier haki.

Overall Zoro displayed the best feats by a mile and the efficiency of G4 is no more like once ratio wise. FP Luffy is not aeons above Base Luffy most likely.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Think about it this way for the people wanking Zoro. Jozu stopped a slash that's 60-70% as strong as Hakai dead in its tracks. He had very little bruising and didn't move an inch. BM/Kaido slashes individually are not as strong as Mihawk's slash which was stated to be "the strongest in the world".



Jozu couldn't break out of parasite. Luffy broke out. Jozu is the strongest YC physically and Luffy shat on his strengths. But people kept making excuses.



Luffy was flooring Kaido without even using King Kong Gun, King Kong Gatling, etc...





All Luffy's offence was missing was strong Haki to be Yonko level. He had always had the ridiculous strength.

You think a no named no haki casual slash is 60/70 percent of hakai the strongest move we've seen in the series so far ?
 
F

Formerly Seth

Oda fucked himself up in the first place. Luffy was barely beating YC after 18 years of serialization and now its time for the big fishes and everyone will have a problem with this.

But fuck that. It's expected.

The only thing I laugh at is that Oda has the audacity to say shit like: "You need to create your MC properly and not make him too strong too fast".

:ihaha:


Luffy will probably have his 1 vs 1 moment with Kaido for some time. Kaido will beat him and the end Act 3 I suppose.
 
No, you easily can. Why are you making up definitions? An asspull is something that comes out of nowhere with a "OHH HE CAN USE IT BECAUSE ___".
No, an asspull is something that comes out of nowhere with no explanation, or a half assed explanation that doesn't make sense sense.

Luffy realized that Kaido was using AdCoC in his attacks after being hit with them. He then took the concept of how to flow your Haki that Hyuogoro taught him, and applied it to CoC. It makes perfect sense.
 
The hell you talking about? Guts = Determination. Determination is willpower. The attack damaged Luffy, and through his willpower he withstood it.

Meanwhile, Zoro was walking around with a body full of broken bones, but that's cool....

Apparently when Sanji have a nick on his shin against Vergo, it's considered an L but Zoro with broken bones losing against Kaido is a W.

Back in Alabasta, Sanji won against Bentham with broken ribs but no one talk about it. Talk about evolution of OP fandom.
 
Apparently when Sanji have a nick on his shin against Vergo, it's considered an L but Zoro with broken bones losing against Kaido is a W.

Back in Alabasta, Sanji won against Bentham with broken ribs but no one talk about it. Talk about evolution of OP fandom.
Lol you think when Sanji flat lines a calamity he will be given any credit?. People are already talking about folks "midd-diffing" first and second commanders like it's normal. Early raid it was Zoro extreme diff King, some even said it would be a 2v1, skip a couple chapters and apparently every dude on the roof can one shot calamities and push admirals high diff. Oda pulled his pants down and dropped a hunk of shit on power scaling and people don't even realize how detrimental this will be for the future of the story because they are too in the moment.
 
Lol you think when Sanji flat lines a calamity he will be given any credit?. People are already talking about folks "midd-diffing" first and second commanders like it's normal. Early raid it was Zoro extreme diff King, some even said it would be a 2v1, skip a couple chapters and apparently every dude on the roof can one shot calamities and push admirals high diff. Oda pulled his pants down and dropped a hunk of shit on power scaling and people don't even realize how detrimental this will be for the future of the story because they are too in the moment.
Rooftop level is just a power level fanmade term. Just like the "Warlords level" where they varied in strength (Mihawk and Moria for example). And apparently if you are in the rooftop, you're automatically stronger than non-rooftop people. That's like saying Killer is stronger than Marco, King, Queen, Sanji, etc. And then suddenly everybody leave the fight bar Luffy and Kaido which broke their mentality.:ihaha:
 
Rooftop level is just a power level fanmade term. Just like the "Warlords level" where they varied in strength (Mihawk and Moria for example). And apparently if you are in the rooftop, you're automatically stronger than non-rooftop people. That's like saying Killer is stronger than Marco, King, Queen, Sanji, etc. And then suddenly everybody leave the fight bar Luffy and Kaido which broke their mentality.:ihaha:
Damn people were serious with rooftop level?.....I genuinely believed it was like a meme or something. Well the people who really thought Killer (who I have nothing against) would somehow end up looking better than a main character (Sanji) baffles my mind. They got caught up in the hype and forgot who this story is really about at the end of the day. The strawhats are destined to steal the show eventually, it was more Oda needing to set the stage for that to happen. The rooftop fight was never about power but always about the worstgen vs oldgen concept. I think the next issue will be that no matter what these roof guys do there will always be the ole "but they fought 2 yonkos tho" as if that's some type of valid argument, I guess simply existing around a yonko is enough to be power scaled.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Rooftop level is just a power level fanmade term. Just like the "Warlords level" where they varied in strength (Mihawk and Moria for example). And apparently if you are in the rooftop, you're automatically stronger than non-rooftop people. That's like saying Killer is stronger than Marco, King, Queen, Sanji, etc. And then suddenly everybody leave the fight bar Luffy and Kaido which broke their mentality.:ihaha:
Well YC itself is fanmade if we want to be thorough. Since we are unaware of the true power level of each commander.

This doesn't automatically imply that it's so bad to come up with a power ranking if it means picturing the 5 novae.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
The hell you talking about? Guts = Determination. Determination is willpower. The attack damaged Luffy, and through his willpower he withstood it.

Meanwhile, Zoro was walking around with a body full of broken bones, but that's cool....

Shh! Dont even try to justify silliness like that. I understand the necessity for babysitting but this is just ridiculous.
We have the right hand of Blackbeard on deathbed from a weaker fire attack meanwhile Luffy is fresher than ever. :suresure:
 
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