General & Others Why Page One Getting up from Big Moms attack would be problematic...

#25
In the recent chapter we see Big Mom a Yonko Hit Page One infusing Armament Haki and Conquerors Haki.
I've seen many are say Page One is going to recover from this and fight again....... were going to talk about why this is problematic

So lets start with this.......

Kaido is one of if not the most IF NOT THE MOST durable individual in the one piece verse.........

Before Luffys training We saw Gear 4 Luffy attack Kaido multiple times and Luffy couldn't hurt Kaido.

Kaido then proceeds to use Thunder Bagua, (which we now know was infused with both conquerors haki and armament haki) and One shots Luffy instantly..........



We find out in chapter 1010, the thing luffy was trying to learn in udon to bypass Kaidos Scales was infusing conquerors haki with his armament haki. This has allowed Luffy to go blow for blow with Kaido IN BASE and is likely the key to defeating Kaido. So the Ancient Zoan durability Excuse does not apply here. Kaido is more durable than the Ancient Zoans by a MILE from what the story has shown.........


We know Gear 3 Elephant Gun is enough to Draw blood from Page One.... and Sanjis regular kicks in the suit could make him scream.

With this information its safe to say the Gear 4 Luffy who couldn't hurt Kaido earlier in the arc would have destroyed Page One most likely.


We saw Big Mom subdue Queen a (Yonko Commander much stronger than Page One) in just about 2 basic attacks. 2 Basic Attacks from Big Mom had Queen Shook Queen and took him out of his dinosaur form. She drew blood from just slamming him.......


Big Mom is Yonko who used Conquerors Haki+ Armament haki hardening on Page One a Tobi Roppo who people preach is the weakest of the Tobi Roppo........far below a Commander.

Page One getting up from this attack implies it would require something as strong as Conquerors Haki+Armament haki to defeat an Anicent Zoan. Unless Oda intends to give Conquerors Haki attacks to the Strawhats and other characters downstairs who are fighting tobi roppo and commanders, it makes NO SENSE for the Strawhats to defeat the Beast Pirates if Page One can get up from an attack of this caliber from a Yonko.

It Makes no sense for Page One to Get up period....... And its also more Big Mom disrespect quite honestly.



People have tried to excuse this by saying Law tanked Thunder Bagua......... We dont know wtf happened in this panel. Oda introduced a new blocking ability for law in this same chapter.... Its likely Law used this ability but still took damage as shown before.



This Attack from an Angry Yonko Big Mom should be more than enough to take Page One out for the rest of the arc....... This should be the first major Defeat of the Beast pirates.





But What do you guys think? Is it ok for Page One to come back after this? Does it make sense? Is Big Mom being disrespected if he does get back up and fight again?
Pay pay is out but not dead... the fact that ulti was trembling was another cue to how stupendous potency that attack had
 
#26
Ulti is gonna headbutt bigmom and make her a vegetable, this is so fking predictable+page one is fine, realistically he should have better resistance than Llaw who survived a similar move(probably even stronger tho cuz it was from a mystical hybrid zoan).
 
#31
Big Mom didnt subdue shit. She barely even scratched Queen. Whilst this dude cracked her skull without even using Hybrid

Once P1 wakes up.....it'll be yall waking up to the idea that you underestimated F6 and the Calamities.
You are the one underestimating them with Sanji vs King agenda.
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Why do you think one homie is a female and one a male, they will fall in love and Nami will use them, Oda will do that dumb shit
 
#32
Y’all, we are talking about an ability that only seems to be used by Yonko and the Pirate King...even if P1 is an Ancient Zoan, it would be ridiculous for one of the strongest moves we’ve seen so far to not do any damage to a veteran-level fighter. I’m not a fuckin’ powerscaler, and even I know that him getting up without reeling or vomiting blood is a cop out of the highest caliber :kayneshrug:
That is not the only problem.
Aside that the low-mid Strawhats need at least G4lvl attacks to put down Pageone and the other flyers(Big mom attacks was save above G4lvl attacks from DR Luffy who pummel Doflamingo with these attacks), the next problem would coming up with the fact that the flyers can recover again and again. As long as they not get put in seastones, they can recover fast again and even attacks like above G4 can't make them put in sleep for days. Everything for nothing, while they recover the strawhats reaching their limit.

And now imagine this, if already the weakest flyer perform such a endurance feats(who even surpass Doffy endurance feat lol) you can expect Jack and the other two calamity going to top that endurance feat. In the end all strawhats would at least need G4 lvl attacks lol.
 
#36
Big Mom didnt subdue shit. She barely even scratched Queen. Whilst this dude cracked her skull without even using Hybrid

Once P1 wakes up.....it'll be yall waking up to the idea that you underestimated F6 and the Calamities.
Page One's not getting up
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This isn't the case.
He was already bypassing his scales with penetrating haki only that it was still too shallow.
Currently he's only coating that COA with COC also which increases penetrating power.
all the more reason Page One shouldn't get up from Big Moms attack......
 
#37
Page One's not getting up
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all the more reason Page One shouldn't get up from Big Moms attack......
but isn't "one piece" ample reason to support his comeback and get low diffed by someone?
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Why do you think one homie is a female and one a male, they will fall in love and Nami will use them, Oda will do that dumb shit
the moment Onepiece turns R rated
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#38
That is not the only problem.
Aside that the low-mid Strawhats need at least G4lvl attacks to put down Pageone and the other flyers(Big mom attacks was save above G4lvl attacks from DR Luffy who pummel Doflamingo with these attacks), the next problem would coming up with the fact that the flyers can recover again and again. As long as they not get put in seastones, they can recover fast again and even attacks like above G4 can't make them put in sleep for days. Everything for nothing, while they recover the strawhats reaching their limit.

And now imagine this, if already the weakest flyer perform such a endurance feats(who even surpass Doffy endurance feat lol) you can expect Jack and the other two calamity going to top that endurance feat. In the end all strawhats would at least need G4 lvl attacks lol.
Exactly, how else are the protagonists supposed to get out of this pickle? Since the author has long been visibly disinterested in letting Luffy’s friends grow at a commensurate (or, hell, even reasonable) rate as their captain, it would be a much larger asspull for Usopp and Nami to defeat P1 than it would be for that guy to tank a CoC slap from Linlin, which is frankly disappointing for where we are in the story :specialmeh:
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Page1 is getting up and I’m gonna drink the tears.
Got something else for you to drink in the meantime, just lean over and open your mouth :pepedoffy:
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#39
Yeah, it’ll suck if Oda hypes CoC punches AND delegitimizes them within the span of consecutive chapters...but like my friend @Titty Croissant said, would this be the only egregious misstep he’s committed in this arc??
It's this old fart's fault by a landslide.

"yOuR mC cAnT bE oVeRpOwErEd tOo fAsT"

Also Oda. Okay, allow me to teach Luffy how to use all forms of Haki in their advanced state within 3 weeks time in the manga timeline.

Luffy should've come out of timeskip with this shit instead of trying to tell us that he learns this during a fight.

The biggest joke ever is Luffy learning advCOC after tanking Kaido's attack with his dick.
 
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