News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[HA001]

Yea I know its difficult for Zoro fanboys to accept the truth.



Just like Zoro couldnt touch Killer... You realize that they fought equally for quite some time? Oda didnt show the full fight cause it would else take several chapters, but narrative wise he made it clear by zooming out, showing the trees and letting the fight be "off screened". He showed they were relative in strength, gave Killer heavier nerfs so he could easily write it the way Zoro wins - and Zoro had to win story wise. But even then Oda refused to let it stand like that and thus made Zoro drop unconscious as well afterwards.

And this is the Killer Zoro fought equally with:

Physically and Mentally tortured to the extremes - his will power was broken until he reunited with his captain, he literally even executed Orochi's orders without questioning or hesitating...

And Zoro fanboys honestly try to claim that both were equally nerfed?!



Yea right, keep dreaming.

No they didn't fucking fight for some time.
The fox didn't stand there for hours troll.
No that's only after he failed.
The Killer zoro fought was doing everything he could to save his best friend and partner
You get bodied every time.

 

[Abysmal]

Yea I know its difficult for Zoro fanboys to accept the truth.



Just like Zoro couldnt touch Killer... You realize that they fought equally for quite some time? Oda didnt show the full fight cause it would else take several chapters, but narrative wise he made it clear by zooming out, showing the trees and letting the fight be "off screened". He showed they were relative in strength, gave Killer heavier nerfs so he could easily write it the way Zoro wins at the end - and Zoro had to win story wise. But even then Oda refused to let it stand like that and thus made Zoro drop unconscious as well afterwards.

And this is the Killer Zoro fought equally with:

Physically and Mentally tortured to the extremes - his will power was broken until he reunited with his captain, he literally even executed Orochi's orders without questioning or hesitating...

And Zoro fanboys honestly try to claim that both were equally nerfed?!



Yea right, keep dreaming.

What are you on about, Zoro didnt even use haki to one shot killer and achieve his total victory you goof

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Killer only landed a hit because of the fox
Without that he couldn't touch zoro
Killer's whole strength is weaker than zoro flexing his chest
Killer got speed blitz by zoro

It's hillarous you say that because same can apply to zoro on the rooftop
without luffy and the other 4 supernovas kaido would factually low-diff zoro.

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

No they didn't fucking fight for some time.
The fox didn't stand there for hours troll.

They fought for some time, yes. But stop putting in my mouth that they fought for "hours", I never said that lmao.

 

[HA001]

It's hillarous you say that because same can apply to zoro on the rooftop
without luffy and the other 4 supernovas kaido would factually low-diff zoro.

But he didn't. And a broken zoro went 1 vs 1 against hybrid kaido deflected his club with ease and perma cut him
Where where the 4 when he saved luffy with tatsumaki ?
Where were the 4 when he stepped in to hakai
Where were the 4 when he used asura window licker?

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They fought for some time, yes. But stop putting in my mouth that they fought for "hours", I never said that lmao.

Whats some time ?
They barely fought as the fox interfered instantly.

 

[Chocolatemuppet]

Does someone have a thread or something that has the full vivre card info?

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

But he didn't. And a broken zoro went 1 vs 1 against hybrid kaido deflected his club with ease and perma cut him

did he not cut a kaido who was repeatably taking damage from law,luffy,kid,killer and focus on luffy not zoro.

Where where the 4 when he saved luffy with tatsumaki ?
Where were the 4 when he stepped in to hakai
Where were the 4 when he used asura window licker?

Here you go, zoro only did those things due to having a team with him.
Without Luffy zoro would be dead from hakai
Without Law zoro wouldn't even have the time to pull ashura

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

Whats some time ?
They barely fought as the fox interfered instantly.

No he did not interfere "instantly"...

Its basic narrative tools Oda used here: showing a bit of fighting equally, then slowly zooming out, showing the tress, showing different characters - and always the sound of clashes and fighting in the background. He couldnt waste several weeks on this fight alone to show it completely on screen, so he off screened the part where they fought equally, but made it clear all along.

 

[imacub]

Also Killer was both physically and mentally tortured

fanfiction.com

 

[HA001]

No he did not interfere "instantly"...

Its basic narrative tools Oda used here: showing a bit of fighting equally, then slowly zooming out, showing the tress, showing different characters - and always the sound of clashes and fighting in the background. He couldnt waste several weeks on this fight alone to show it completely on screen, so he off screened the part where they fought equally, but made it clear all along.

no he fucking doesnt troll they barely clashed we can literally see gyuki wait and step in

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

fanfiction.com

Wasn't he tortured by the smile fruit?

 

[HA001]

did he not cut a kaido who was repeatably taking damage from law,luffy,kid,killer and focus on luffy not zoro.

Here you go, zoro only did those things due to having a team with him.
Without Luffy zoro would be dead from hakai
Without Law zoro wouldn't even have the time to pull ashura

the fuck are you on about?

luffy didnt do shit in hakai


and law didnt help zoro land with asura either

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

fanfiction.com

no, you just need to use your eyes lmao

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

the fuck are you on about window licker ?

you know exactly what I mean stop acting stupid, and whats up with window licker that's what they made you do at school?

didnt

headcannon.com as expected from a fake zoro fan that hypes zoro to indrectly hype mihawk
Luffy: WATCH OUT GUYS, SOMETHING BIG IS COMING

and law didnt help zoro land with asura either

Is that not law saving zoro from getting neg diff

 

[SmokedOut]

Is there a consolidated list of translations, there's too much noise in this thread.

 

[imacub]

no, you just need to use your eyes lmao

take a mirror lmao

 

[Hahasanji]

The Sanji flying six shit is fake :holdthisl:

I take the L

 

[imacub]

Wasn't he tortured by the smile fruit?

smile doesnt torture

 

[Abysmal]

I take the L

 

[ankama]

Imagine that a Killer in a fight with Zoro would also use Haki.
Both were nerfed.
It doesn't matter who is bigger or who is smaller. Both are shown equal in that skirmish. The Killer was able to injure Zoro because he was distracted, Zoro was able to injure the Killer because he used Haki, Killer - no. The fight would have been a long one if Oda hadn't gone for plot tricks.